your opinion

only art can be art. But sometimes even art is not art. So the sun has to sacrifice to reinvent art. Then art can spread and by a magical equation and reaching light speed and with some luck and a red bull land on games. That's when games become art but is easier if people

are stupid and take way too seriously life.

No.

Well, some of the animation in games could be considered as art. It's very clever what those people do...

It depends on what aspect of the game. I think that the character/scenery development is definitely artwork, as well as the concept of a story, but the coding and telling what the game to do is not art.

 

Art to me is a form of personal expression.

like the overall creation of video games, not just the aesthetic qualities you create? Sure, there's some creativity and expression available in that medium. But it's not as palpable or individual oriented as the fine arts. Most of the things one finds artistic in game though are forms of other mediums, like story-telling and music for example as gloaming pointed out.

I guess you'd have to find to judge a pure, stripped down product like pong in order to answer that question. And I guess since it's visual and interactive (there's a creator and observer) then yes it could still be art.

 

Now I see though that you didn't mean exclusively video games at all, but any sort of game. Since that term is broad, I'll just say, it depends.

I meant more computer games, but I suppose "game" includes somewhat-more-accepted-as-artsy things like chess or whatever.

 

Personally I think (computer/video) games are one of the best art forms of all, viewer participation is absolutely required so you become more attached to the characters, etc, which gets the art's point across far better. The aesthetics in game can certainly be artwork as well, but I also consider games as a whole to be art. Although a lot of mainstream video games are very non-artistic to me, personally, there are a handful of absolute gems out there, but they tend to be more like... I'm not sure, interactive stories? than "games" in the completely traditional sense. So we may actually need a different definition here.

only art can be art

 

hahaha

 

Although a lot of mainstream video games are very non-artistic to me, personally, there are a handful of absolute gems out there, but they tend to be more like... I'm not sure, interactive stories? than "games" in the completely traditional sense. So we may actually need a different definition here.

 

I call it interactive art, like something you can actually affect through your involvement

 

And yeah video games are a great example of it, though I wouldn't really call all of them art... I dunno. They're just an example of it.

 

(My attempt to sound smart has failed, oooops.)

No.

 

Why does it look like you and another handful of girls imitate (very poorly) Crests?

I don't think so, why would that be art ?

Incidentally here are a couple of browser-based games that are basically considered artistic by... basically mostly just Kongregate (there aren't really many of them in all honesty)

 

The Company of Myself (I highly recommend this one, it's really good)

 

Loved

 

ImmorTall (I really don't think this is very good art but it's certainly in the artsy-game category)

 

Gray

 

Aether (Also recommended, it's very good)

 

and some others, but they don't as a rule tend to be popular enough for me to notice, as I'm not a hardcore Kongregator

 

and some others that aren't browser-based:

 

World of Goo is pretty artsy but not on Kongregate

 

Braid is an unbelievably good artsy game but also not on Kongregate

 

Any game by Jenova Chen is bound to be considered artsy, though I've never enjoyed them that much personally

 

Psychonauts I haven't played (I'd really like to though) but the general sentiment is that it's very artistic, according to the gaming community, as far as I can tell

 

And of course, PORTAL, which besides being artistic in its own right I swear to God has got the best writing of any video game, ever.

 

(There are more but I don't care to try to think of them off the top of my head)

 

I think a lot of the reason people don't tend to recognize games as artistic is 1) Most arty games aren't very mainstream because the mainstream audience wants mind-numbing fun/violence/what-have-you, and 2) Elements like storyline, character development, etc, do not typically stick out in peoples minds the way things like GRAFICS, FISICS, and BLOOOOOD do. Like if you play God of War, you aren't going to remember storyline or character development or whatever, you're going to remember all the entrails flying around. (I'm not saying I find God of War to be artistic, fyi, it never seemed like much to me)

The animation, characters, setting, etc. is art, but actual gameplay? No, that's not art.

 

I don't think chess, boardgames, etc. are art either if that's also what you're asking.

Okay then, do you consider storylines to be art? Because novels are generally considered art for their storyline, but typically games aren't. I suppose that's more of what I'm asking, instead of asking about graphics or animation.

 

And by characters, do you mean the characters' actual personality, or their appearance?

I don't think storylines in games are art, no.

 

Their appearance.

You haz Kongregate account? :wacko:

I love that song that's in your signature, Emily. :nice:

Ahhhh OneRepublic :dance:

 

That song's been stuck in my head for like.. ever :tongue:

I think that the creativity that goes into games (background, characters, weapons, etc.) and the storyline are art, but for some reason I don't think the actual game is. I don't know why. :shrug:

And oh fuck, another website I'm now addicted to. :freak:

final fantasy x = art

Why does it look like you and another handful of girls imitate (very poorly) Crests?

 

First of all, I don't. Second, if you think so, then whatever, but me and Tammi have similar conditions, so that may be why you think so.

You haz Kongregate account? :wacko:

 

I haz do.

 

Edit: I'm shocked how many people think meshes and textures in games are art but not the storylines themselves. Huh.

 

I mean the storylines are basically like books or movies. I think it's interesting.

I haz do.

 

Edit: I'm shocked how many people think meshes and textures in games are art but not the storylines themselves. Huh.

 

I mean the storylines are basically like books or movies. I think it's interesting.

 

I think I found you :thinking:

 

and lol I didn't think about the story lines as being artistic, but yes, I suppose they are :wacko:

Being a visual person though I tend to be more drawn towards a game by the graphics and the look of it. That's what makes a good game amazing imo.

I think I found you :thinking:

 

and lol I didn't think about the story lines as being artistic, but yes, I suppose they are :wacko:

Being a visual person though I tend to be more drawn towards a game by the graphics and the look of it. That's what makes a good game amazing imo.

 

You probebly did. I'm level 13.

Yush I did find you then :nice:

 

I don't so much play the games, but I mostly talk to people in The Basement chat room :P