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Another war... I just hope Gaddafi loses as soon as possible... how couldn't he?

The bombings started on the 8th anniversary off the invasion of Iraq

I'm surprised the French started it.

 

 

They're usually the first ones to wave that white flag :lol:

 

 

 

 

I have mixed feelings about this. I think it's terrible what he's doing and from a humanitarian standpoint he needs to be stopped. However it's getting into another war which means more money spent, and also it's none of our business to be meddling into their affairs. Also the people should be the ones to revolt and rise up if possible. It would almost be as if another country interfered during the US Civil War

It would almost be as if another country interfered during the US Civil War

I don't want to think what America (or the world for that matter) would be like if the Confederacy had won. Ugh.

 

 

 

 

And my 2 cents on the new developments in Libya...

 

When I saw that the U.S. was starting missile attacks, I found it to be rather disturbing at first. Basically, who do we think we are? Why do we feel the need to keep butting in? Is it just me, or does the U.S. seem like a big bully? But after hearing that it truly was (and will continue to be) a joint effort by multiple countries based on a previous resolution/agreement, I've backed off a bit on my original impression.

 

There is also a significant population in SE Michigan of former middle-east citizens (and those of middle-east descent in general). Local news stations have been interviewing locals from Libya, and they fully support the recent developments on behalf of fellow Libyan citizens.

I'm surprised the French started it.

 

 

They're usually the first ones to wave that white flag :lol:

 

 

 

 

I have mixed feelings about this. I think it's terrible what he's doing and from a humanitarian standpoint he needs to be stopped. However it's getting into another war which means more money spent, and also it's none of our business to be meddling into their affairs. Also the people should be the ones to revolt and rise up if possible. It would almost be as if another country interfered during the US Civil War

 

The confederacy banked on support from Britain and France if it wanted to be successful! Imagine if they had got it!

 

But is it right to take the attitude that it's their problem and their problem only when they are fighting desperately for a change, an end to awful dictatorship but more importantly for the protection of themselves? They called for help from the international community and we only responded two days ago. That's not good. Taking no action would have been worse than taking action. David Cameron gave a great quote to Parliament saying 'Just because you can't do everything, doesn't mean you shouldn't do anything'

It took so long because the French had to dust off all their white flags..they're ready now I'm sure.

It took so long because the French had to dust off all their white flags..they're ready now I'm sure.

 

Sarkozy has a bit of a confident swagger about him. Unlike the mincing pricks that went before him. But it's clear this is a UK/France led operation. Months after the two signed a defence alliance with each other.

i know this action doesn't look very appealing but it had to be done. there was no way the international community could've sat back and watch another rwanda unfold. but the coalition needs to remember that their task is to protect the libyan people. not annihilate government and its army.

I was really hoping we could aviod war. :disappointed:

This isn't war!! GACK!

A few questions...

the uprising in libia is more than just a protest, these people must have been organised from before. ?

If I was Col Gadifi I may just choose to defend my country as it is, but also try and broker some sort of diliouge with the people.

 

With the Allied forces now bombing the colnels forces, this gives the rebels some considerable advantage, effectinley siding the allied forces against the colnels forces, something I think they have got involved with without thinking out the consquences.?

 

He has every right now to complain about this, or even declare war against the allied forces.. I hope Spain is not involved in anyway !

This isn't war!! GACK!

 

 

Uhuh.

They just want oil :shame:

This isn't war!! GACK!

 

And Vietnam was just a police action...

 

lol we've defined wars out of existence!

fighter jets, missles.... hmm I don't care what the politics call it. It looks like a war to me. and I am not happy about it.

No but I wouldn't (and didn't) call an action like this a multi-country war so few days after it was announced. A few days seems a bit quick to jump around screaming.

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Meh, this whole NATO intervention is illegal in the first place. U.N Resolution #51, no nation shall attack another for any other reason than self-defense. Whatever sorry ass excuse they have does not change the fact it is not for anyone's self defense. It's just their attempt at colonization, supporting instability, privatizing their industries, and exploiting their people. As if they cared about the civilians, a cruise missile can't tell the difference between a Gaddafi soldier and a civilian as we've seen so far. Last time the U.S supported a rebel movement 'twas in Afghanistan against the Soviets. Look what happened there, those rebels are now the organizations that slow the progress of that region. As long as they can slow it down, control remains with the enabling super power, and oil remains cheap. That's all it is.

Apologise already Nato, even if it was accidental.

Nato strike 'kills Saif al-Arab Gaddafi', Libya says

 

 

Nato strike 'kills Saif al-Arab Gaddafi', Libya says

 

A Nato air strike in the Libyan capital, Tripoli, has killed the son of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, a government spokesman has said.

 

Colonel Gaddafi himself was in the large residential villa which was hit by the strike, the spokesman added, but was unharmed. His son Saif al-Arab was said to be dead, as well as three grandchildren.

 

Nato has confirmed the air strike, without denying or confirming the reported deaths. A Nato spokesman said the strike had hit a "known command-and-control building in the Bab al-Aziziya neighbourhood".

 

"All Nato's targets are military in nature... We do not target individuals," said Lieutenant-General Charles Bouchard in a statement. He said that he was aware of reports that members of Col Gaddafi's family had been killed, but made no further comment. "We regret all loss of life, especially the innocent civilians being harmed as a result of the ongoing conflict," said Lt-Gen Bouchard.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13251570

So what exactly is going on now? Are they free or am I misinterpreting?

well, they still don't have him, which makes it a bit of a mess. but they seem to have conquered his palace-thing.

let's hope they find him hiding in a hole in the ground just like saddam hussein. :wacko:

Syria next please. Take that evil fucker out.

Libyan forces 'capture Gaddafi'

 

Commanders for Libya's transitional authorities say they have captured ousted leader Col Muammar Gaddafi.

 

The reports came after transitional forces claimed control of Sirte, Col Gaddafi's birthplace, following weeks of fierce fighting.

 

Col Gaddafi is said to be wounded. There is no independent confirmation of the reports.

 

The colonel was toppled in August after 42 years in power. The International Criminal Court is seeking his arrest.

 

"He's captured. He's wounded in both legs," National Transitional Council (NTC) official Abdel Majid told Reuters news agency.

 

"He's been taken away by ambulance."

 

AFP news agency quoted another NTC official, Mohamed Leith, as saying that Col Gaddafi had been captured in Sirte and was "seriously wounded" but still breathing.

 

A soldier who says he captured Muammar Gaddafi tod the BBC the colonel had shouted: "Don't shoot!"

 

The BBC's Caroline Hawley in Tripoli says although the capture is unconfirmed, ships and cars have been sounding their horns in the capital and guns are being fired in celebration.

 

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