Fix42YellowClocks Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I know there's no absolute-concrete proof to tie this together. But I just noticed as I was listening to the song: 1) It's very natural in it's lyrics, the river/raindrop, erodes us, the clouds, the water your ships roll in. And what also convinces me. "If we could float away fly up to the surface and just start again" and "Lift off before trouble..." 2) You have "through chaos as it swirls", if you replace "it's us against the world" with "we fly up with the birds" i don't think it fits QUITE as well but it still essentially rhymes and that's probably why they changed the lyrics and thus the title. 3) The song is very peaceful melodically. It definitely makes me think that it could've been named something with "Birds" in it and even at the end, Jonny's guitar riff is gorgeous. But it's just so in a way that I could imagine it emulating birds "lifting off". 4) Chris said "It might be a duet but we don't know who with yet." They probably decided the duet would be within the band, a la with Will. Because he is a fantastic singer after all. :] And he definitely deserves it. 4) To counter this though, Chris also said "I'm trying to make sure there are three songs that start with the same letter. This time it could be U." Which I just realized makes me also really believe "U.F.O." will be a song!! :D Maybe the three U's are U.F.O., Us Against the World, and Up with the Birds? Though I'm betting it's probably U.F.O., Us Against the World (PKA Up with the Birds), and another song we don't know/haven't heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanma Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Makes sense... Time will tell :P Cartoon heart ended up with a diff name so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 ^ True. And UAtW has a lot more facts going for it than Major Minus did, so it's a good possibility. :thinking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Champion Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Agree. It makes a lot of sense. with Will. Because he is a fantastic singer after all. :] And he definitely deserves it. I love you for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldplay♪♫♪ Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 No ... In 2009 were two names of the songs were written one song us against the world and there was another one called up with the birds It's not the same song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fix42YellowClocks Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 Agree. It makes a lot of sense. I love you for that. :) No problem man. Just speaking the truth! Seriously, he's so underrated. I can't believe he never got a prominent singing role on any of the songs until Death Will Never Conquer!! :| It's pretty ridiculous. No ... In 2009 were two names of the songs were written one song us against the world and there was another one called up with the birds It's not the same song They changed the list on WikiColdplay. I don't know why- but they did. The original South Bank show never had ETIAW or Hurts Like Heaven or Us Against the World or Major Minus or Up with the Birds for that matter. We didn't find out about those songs until awhile later and they didn't have them at the time of South Bank. Do you want to see the real list from two years ago? Because I obsessed over it and saved it in a Microsoft word doc. -“1000-1 (Ballad of…)” -“Aiko” -“Alien Radio” -“Alive Day” -“Arabesque” -“Boyfriend” -“Buzz” -“Car Kids” -“Cartoon Head” -“Cartoon Heart” -“Christmas Lights” -“Drunks and Guns” -“Famous Old Painters’ -“Gardeners on the Frontline” -“Great Expectations” -“Harbingers of Doom’ -“Harmony” -“Hook up” -“If I Ever Fall in Love Again” -“It Was a Wonderful Day” -“Love in a Lethal Dose” -“Lucky Sevens” -“Princess of China” -“Sex Violence” -“Spanish Rain” -”Space Symphony” -“Wedding Bells” -“Wilderness” -“Wondering Star” Those were the original songs on the list. Again, don't know why someone changed it. But yeah. So I'm sorry but you can't invalidate my claim based on what you mistook as the truth. It's not really your fault after all though... You're not the first one I've seen refer to the list mistakenly. Someone should fix that and put it back to the original so we don't have any more mess ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 :) No problem man. Just speaking the truth! Seriously, he's so underrated. I can't believe he never got a prominent singing role on any of the songs until Death Will Never Conquer!! :| It's pretty ridiculous. I think all of the guys have amazing singing voices :wacky: I wish Coldplay could take a trick from The Beatles and have all of their members sing lead at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesTheMarshmallow Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 2006 Toronto performance of Don't Panic with Jonny singing the 2nd verse....I love it. :D Very coherent theory. "Up with the birds" definitely fits when you sing it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJB Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 "Space Symphony" in that list might now be Moving To Mars if you're considering changed names and slightly different lyrics. I mean "We are meeting for the first time, singing this space symphony" suggests it doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleggy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I think the whole thing with Up With The Birds being registered on the PRS with references to Leonard Cohen debunks this theory. It's likely that Cohen is the guest on the song, making it a duet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 ^ Isn't Leonard in like his 70's? Will he still be able to sing? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 'Up With The Birds' and 'Us Against The World' are registered as different songs on the PRS database. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admnistramation Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I don't understand how Major Minus is PKA Up With The Birds at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I don't understand how Major Minus is PKA Up With The Birds at all. Who said that? They're two completely different songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getithom Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 ^ Isn't Leonard in like his 70's? Will he still be able to sing? :confused: Bob Dylan is 70 and he still sings. Of course Leonard can still sing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloe_Martin Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I still really wanna hear Sex Violence LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fix42YellowClocks Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 I have to agree. What's been discovered these past few days greatly discounts my theory. I don't like this deal with the samples (I mean ETIAW now this?) though I can't help but think it's not much different then before except that they're being more careful since the VlV lawsuits. And I mention the sample thing because I don't see them collaborating with a 70+ year old guy. And I know you're not supposed to prejudge songs but between that and it only being 3:30. Not too promising I'd say. :thinking: Then again, I've been wrong many times before so, this certainly wouldn't be the first time. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Bob Dylan is 70 and he still sings. Of course Leonard can still sing. True. I thought Leonard was sick . . . must be thinking of someone else :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I have to agree. What's been discovered these past few days greatly discounts my theory. I don't like this deal with the samples (I mean ETIAW now this?) though I can't help but think it's not much different then before except that they're being more careful since the VlV lawsuits. And I mention the sample thing because I don't see them collaborating with a 70+ year old guy. And I know you're not supposed to prejudge songs but between that and it only being 3:30. Not too promising I'd say. :thinking: Then again, I've been wrong many times before so, this certainly wouldn't be the first time. :P I agree about the sampling. Talk and LiT used their samples well and they really added something to the songs, but with ETiaW it just seems like Chris thought it was 'cool' and that was the only reason they used it. Coldplay are creative, and I would much rather have their own original material on this next album rather than a bunch of borrowed, mix-and-match samples. :shrug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 This is why I couldn't understand why people thought Viva was a rip-off; Chris has always admitted to samples... They were going to work with Johnny Cash before he died; I wouldn't put it past them to get Leonard Cohen in on a track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloe_Martin Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Coldplay and Bob Dylan would be a miracle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Coldplay and Bob Dylan would be a miracle I'm going with Coldplay and David Bowie :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Glisten Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I love title Up With The Birds :dance: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Coldplay and Bob Dylan would be a miracle :wideeyed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I wish they didn't collaborate with anyone. I just hate when bands/singers do it. Ruins a song for me. Like Gold In Them Hills-->Chris should've sung the entire song himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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