Wow. This I did not expect. I don't recall him ever saying a good thing about them. :thinking: I thought they weren't cool enough for him because they don't do drugs or have sex with prostitutes?

 

 

 

They make pretty good music. And Noel's a great lyricist. But I would replace 'best' with 'most influential'. But besides the talented music part let's look at the Gallagher brother's shall we. Except 1) Their lifestyles/habits. When you 'handle' fame by snorting coke all day and you let drugs interfere with your music, well. How do you respect people like that? Music first. There's really no question about it. 2) As you said, Noel has a massive ego. You're right, I mean, he's probably kidding sometimes times. But you can joke around without looking like an airhead and pretending you're better than everyone when you're not. He was cocky and he rightfully paid the price. I think my favorite summation of Be Here Now is this one by Q Magazine. "So colossally did Be Here Now fall short of expectations that it killed Britpop and ushered in an era of more ambitious, less overblown music." Enter Coldplay takeover. Oasis finished off. Game, set, match to Coldplay. And there you have it. Done.

 

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could be good. could be bad. Only time will tell.

 

Be Here Now failed but Noel Gallagher made no hesitation over the fact he thought it was shit. EVEN BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED he said 'the production on it is shit' and he said the only thing different for that album was that 'it had a different cover'. He massively regretted it's release and said that after the epic high of the historic Knebworth gigs the band should have taken a break for 5 years rather than jump straight back into recording completely and utterly smacked off their heads, under the excessive abuse of cocaine and alcohol. Be Here Now isn't a disaster by any means. It's alright at best but when you put it up against probably the greatest debut album ever in Definitely Maybe and the soundtrack of the 90s in (What's The Story) Morning Glory is a massive failure. The myth goes that after WTSMG that Oasis never produced a good album again. Bullshit. Don't Believe The Truth and Dig Out Your Soul were two fine albums and lightyears ahead LPs 3,4 and 5. The failure of Be Here Now never stopped Oasis but it ended Britpop once and for all. Their albums thereafter, bar their final LP Dig Out Your Soul (their most natural rock album in my opinion), was scaled down in sound and significance. That said Oasis from Definitely Maybe to Be Here Now was one of the truly great chapter's within British rock music.

 

 

 

GTFO!! What? :o I loved their first two albums (those were my uni days so it was perfect timing too) as did the rest of the country. After that they were still very talented (of course) but their albums were average, (I'm sure they were still good live if Liam could get out of bed ) and commercially disappointing (not that that matters, but just saying).

 

I can certainly deny they are one of the greatest British bands ever!! I doubt they'd be top thirty if you consider not only sales but also popularity, influence, sustained success, long-term critical acclaim, international attention, etc etc etc. Oasis never fulfilled their potential. The Stone Roses did it in a handful of singles and one album!!

 

U2 and Coldplay are both top twenty, probably (without counting up to see the obvious ones). Oasis would be top thirty, probably, but only on the strength of sales.

 

Ok it's debatable but Noel's best songs (Live Forever, Listen Up, The Masterplan) really was song writing of the highest quality better than CM's best efforts. That said Noel's worst songs (I Can See A Liar, Probably All In The Mind) are so so sub standard. Coldplay haven't written a song as bad as that so that makes Chris Martin a much more consistent song writer in my opinion.

 

As for your comments on U2 and The Stone Roses, I know they have the British music industry to thank them for their success but I won't count U2! As for The Stone Roses, their debut is the equal of Definitely Maybe. But so is The La's in my opinion!

Be Here Now failed but Noel Gallagher made no hesitation over the fact he thought it was shit. EVEN BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED he said 'the production on it is shit' and he said the only thing different for that album was that 'it had a different cover'. Be Here Now isn't a disaster by any means. It's alright at best but when you put it up against probably the greatest debut album ever in Definitely Maybe and the soundtrack of the 90s in (What's The Story) Morning Glory is a massive failure. The myth goes that after WTSMG that Oasis never produced a good album again. Bullshit. Don't Believe The Truth and Dig Out Your Soul were two fine albums and lightyears ahead LPs 3,4 and 5. The failure of Be Here Now never stopped Oasis but it ended Britpop once and for all. Their albums thereafter, bar their final LP Dig Out Your Soul (their most natural rock album in my opinion), was scaled down in sound and significance.

 

 

All I can say is. Don't Believe the Truth>All their other albums. And. You can't be the best band in the world if music isn't your priority over drugs. Coldplay is the best band in part because they know what their priorities are and their passion for music is unflinching.

All I can say is. Don't Believe the Truth>All their other albums. And. You can't be the best band in the world if music isn't your priority over drugs. Coldplay is the best band in part because they know what their priorities are and their passion for music is unflinching.

 

Only Be Here Now was recorded with them blitzed out of their minds. Drugs stopped being a part of the process after Be Here Now. Noel Gallagher stopped them after that because he knew it had ruined the album and also the fact that he had 'tried them all'. From Standing On The Shoulders of Giants (a far superior album than Be Here Now with great lyrics, bar the cack that is Little James and I Can See A Liar) they never recorded under the influence of drugs again.

I am sorry for what I have said to Oasis fans, but when the new film of Spike Island comes out you will see the difference that The Stone Roses had...it was a cultural revolution (a very peaceful one) in Britain in 1989-1991 (when hope stopped that they would ever release the follow-up lol). They really ignited the imagination of a nation of youngsters, along with the acid-house scene and Madchester in general.

 

Reflecting on recent events I wonder if some of the troubles had their roots in attitudes seeded then and never addressed by subsequent governments...

 

/should get to bed, goodnight :)

Noel always seemed nice to me, Liam is a pathetic selfloathing loser.

All I can say is. Don't Believe the Truth>All their other albums. And. You can't be the best band in the world if music isn't your priority over drugs. Coldplay is the best band in part because they know what their priorities are and their passion for music is unflinching.

 

Just for the record, I'm not an Oasis fan, but I agree with everything else! :nice:

I am sorry for what I have said to Oasis fans, but when the new film of Spike Island comes out you will see the difference that The Stone Roses had...it was a cultural revolution (a very peaceful one) in Britain in 1989-1991 (when hope stopped that they would ever release the follow-up lol). They really ignited the imagination of a nation of youngsters, along with the acid-house scene and Madchester in general.

 

Reflecting on recent events I wonder if some of the troubles had their roots in attitudes seeded then and never addressed by subsequent governments...

 

/should get to bed, goodnight :)

 

I'm not going to disagree with you there. Truly great album was The Stone Roses. We've never had an album quite like it.

 

Noel always seemed nice to me, Liam is a pathetic selfloathing loser.

 

I've always liked Liam. He's eccentric and most of the things he says aren't in any real spite and are just harmless taunts. Most people seem to take him at face value forgetting the fact that this is the man who has said such bizarre things as 'I am the salmon king!'. Heard plenty of stories by people who have met him and they say he was one of the nicest men to talk to. One occasion a fan spotted him in London with his sons and he got talking to him with Liam introducing his children to the fan. Not many rock stars are accommodating to their fans and come across as not wanting to have the time to meet people who care about them but Liam Gallagher is a rare exception.

I've always liked Liam. He's eccentric and most of the things he says aren't in any real spite and are just harmless taunts. Most people seem to take him at face value forgetting the fact that this is the man who has said such bizarre things as 'I am the salmon king!'. Heard plenty of stories by people who have met him and they say he was one of the nicest men to talk to. One occasion a fan spotted him in London with his sons and he got talking to him with Liam introducing his children to the fan. Not many rock stars are accommodating to their fans and come across as not wanting to have the time to meet people who care about them but Liam Gallagher is a rare exception.

 

This! I've read that Liam is a really nice person to talk to! and I know a guy who waited at the airport when they played in Brazil in 2009 and Liam wanted to have a smoke and asked the guy if he wanted to go with him, and they went together to the smoking area and talked for some minutes!

 

Beady Eye is coming to Montevideo, Uruguay in November and I really want to have a talk with Liam!! :D

 

I know he says a lot of shit at interviews and stuff but I believe he just wants a little bit of atention :P

Coming across with such a thread is interesting; aware of the close dates of Noel's Solo and Mylo Xyloto. Not get a chance to see Oasis Live before the split is a pity.

 

I think there are more wildness/anger/conflicts/roughness/extreme high/low [more RNR/Blues elements] in Oasis's music expression - then the tender/sensitive living in - the whole picture looks more dramatic or complicated. Coldplay and Oasis are meant to have their own styles and paths [so as their lives], different sides of british or Brit-pop, although I dislike label music at all. But there is one thing in common for me, the melody, the first thing I am attracted to [or even behind the melody, it is actually how you express the inner world fluently, accurately and fully, presenting the "gravity" or the "distance"]. If there is sth. very unique to music as an expression form, for me, it is melody and the context.

 

I am impressive with I'm Outta Time.

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Regardless - he's a better lyricist than Chris Martin. Arguably a better songwriter as well.

 

"Slowly walking down a cannonball, faster than a cannonball"

"And on the palm of her hand is a blister"

"And she makes me laugh, I got her autograph"

 

Please never suggest Noel Gallagher to be a good lyricist.

"Slowly walking down a hall, faster than a cannonball"

"And on the palm of her hand is a blister"

"And she makes me laugh, I got her autograph"

 

Please never suggest Noel Gallagher to be a good lyricist.

 

It was a wawawawawaterfall!

 

Just sayin

Not to forget about :

 

"She's got a cousin , in fact she's got a dozen

she's got one in the oven , but that has nothing to do with me " :nice:

 

 

Yeaaaah

 

Noel Gallagher debate

 

I'm in ! :evil:

David Bowie is a far better lyricist than either :snobby:

/irrelevant.

 

Beady Eye is coming to Montevideo, Uruguay in November and I really want to have a talk with Liam!! :D

 

Hpw will you do that ?

Have a talk with Liam ?

 

Is it so easy in Uruguay ? :wreck: :wacko:

btw , I don't get it

 

Noel Gallagher is fucking nice and gives Coldplay a complement

 

and suddenly people have this need to say he's not cool and blah blah blah

 

I mean , really ? :thinking:

btw , I don't get it

 

Noel Gallagher is fucking nice and gives Coldplay a complement

 

and suddenly people have this need to say he's not cool and blah blah blah

 

I mean , really ? :thinking:

They's be the same if he insulted them there's no winning.

But honestly I don't really care, I'll make my own judgement of the album when it's out.

EDIT omg the 42nd post must be coldception 11111

yeah , I'm even suprised that Noel said that, to be honest ...

 

Etiaw is not really his genre

 

I've got a very similar music taste as Noel Gallagher ('cuz of him :p)

 

and I'm not that enthousiastic 'bout it all ...

but we'll see :wacko:

"Slowly walking down a cannonball, faster than a cannonball"

"And on the palm of her hand is a blister"

"And she makes me laugh, I got her autograph"

 

Please never suggest Noel Gallagher to be a good lyricist.

 

Actually, it says "Slowly walking down the hall, faster than a cannonball" :)

 

It was a wawawawawaterfall!

 

Just sayin

 

this! :laugh3:

 

Hpw will you do that ?

Have a talk with Liam ?

 

Is it so easy in Uruguay ? :wreck: :wacko:

 

I don't know, but i'll stay outside their hotel until they come out and i'll try to have a talk with any of them :P at least an autograph or a picture :)

I don't know, but i'll stay outside their hotel until they come out and i'll try to have a talk with any of them :P at least an autograph or a picture :)

But how do you know where they'll be staying ?

 

I've never met any artist (except Belgian ) :disappointed:

 

that why I have this frustation :p

But how do you know where they'll be staying ?

 

I've never met any artist (except Belgian ) :disappointed:

 

that why I have this frustation :p

 

I don't know yet, but i'm sure I will know when the date comes :)

 

Plus I live near the airport, so if I can't see them at their hotel i'll go to the airport :D I HAVE to see them :P

 

I will buy first row tickets for the show! :awesome:

I don't know yet, but i'm sure I will know when the date comes :)

 

Plus I live near the airport, so if I can't see them at their hotel i'll go to the airport :D I HAVE to see them :P

 

I will buy first row tickets for the show! :awesome:

 

thahaha :lol:

I wish you the very best of luck ! :nice:

'tell me 'bout it afterwarts ! ;)

 

'd you buy those tix ? isn't it just free standing ?

 

btw: I advise you not to go on first row , but second ,

because on first you can't jump 'cuz of the pushing

and second , you CAN ;)

I hope they collaberate on something! I know they played live before and it was fantastic. Noel gets along with Coldplay, so I really hope they write some music together.

thahaha :lol:

I wish you the very best of luck ! :nice:

'tell me 'bout it afterwarts ! ;)

 

'd you buy those tix ? isn't it just free standing ?

 

btw: I advise you not to go on first row , but second ,

because on first you can't jump 'cuz of the pushing

and second , you CAN ;)

 

Thank you! :nice:

I'll tell you everything! :D

 

No, it's not free standing because they play in a kind of an outside theatre, so I don't know how the tickets will cost. They start selling them on thursday so i'll have them in a few days! :D

 

there will be no pushing because there are seats!! but people will be standing anyway :P

 

I hope I can :D

 

Here's what the place where they are playing looks like. It's called Teatro De Verano (Summer's Theatre)

 

 

 

 

I like Noel..It's just Liam that bothers me.