sirajlyons Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Hello fellow Coldplayers, hope you're having a wonderful day. Now my question is did Brian Eno improve Coldplay's music? Share your thoughts here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirajlyons Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 One fact we can't deny is that Brian made Coldplay explore beyond there musical boundries. So in my opinion Yes, Brian Eno did make Coldplay a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roquejose Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'd say in VLV he did,the atmosphere sound,the variety of instruments,more complex songs... but in MX I don't know,I've heard some of his albums,and he hasn't this "american pop" sound... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirajlyons Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 I agree with you about VLV but i did think eno made good choices about MX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 ^ Agreed with all the posts above me. He did wonders with Viva, but I think he may have pushed things a little too far this time. :shrug: And I know that the guys have a say in things also, but in the end it's still Eno doing all of the ambience effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu'kaa Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes again. It's even more to me, he improved the guys themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VivaGroaning Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 He has been a strongly needed catalyzer - so definitely yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirajlyons Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 Now answer this question, what if Ken Nelson (there old producer) was never fired, what would Coldplay be like right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yes, he made Coldplay become not just a huge band of great musicians but a huge band of huge artists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haruka Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Brian Eno brought some 'out of the box' thinking, atmospheric feel to the songs. I consider that one BIG improvement :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnapsty Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Now answer this question, what if Ken Nelson (there old producer) was never fired, what would Coldplay be like right now? They'd still be working with very rigid song patterns (verse-chorus-verse-chorus) and they would have overused most of their tricks. At this stage, Brian Eno is what the band needed to stay fresh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew42LP5 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Viva is their best album, IMO. However, MX did not exceed my expectation. I do think they need to get rid of Eno, if he tries to continue the MX sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i'maveryneatMonster.' Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedPolitik Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Eno is a mastermind. He didn't quite do for them what he did for U2 or even Bowie, but he certainly saved them with VLV after they got some backlash from X&Y. He made them try new things. I feel like he didn't have as much of an impact on MX, anyone who's heard some other albums he's produced should agree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para-para-parrotdies Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Eno is a mastermind. He didn't quite do for them what he did for U2 or even Bowie, but he certainly saved them with VLV after they got some backlash from X&Y. He made them try new things. I feel like he didn't have as much of an impact on MX, anyone who's heard some other albums he's produced should agree with me. Brian Eno is a legend but his production skills have steadily been declining since his involvement on Acthung Baby. I attribute it to age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitamin Z Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Brian Eno did help them stretch their boundaries, but improve? I'd say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nails Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Eno is a mastermind. He didn't quite do for them what he did for U2 or even Bowie, but he certainly saved them with VLV after they got some backlash from X&Y. He made them try new things. I feel like he didn't have as much of an impact on MX, anyone who's heard some other albums he's produced should agree with me. Definitely. And he didn't even produce this album, he was more like, in Chris's words, a Dumbledore (:dazzled:) who gave them clues or ideas. Chris even said that some of the most Eno sounding stuff on MX came from the band themselves, and not from Brian. I think without him they would have released X&Y The Third by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrd Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I can't really say because I don't know what the music would have sounded like now if he hadn't worked along with Coldplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleggy Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I think Eno's input on Viva La Vida was absolutely extraordinary. After X&Y the band definitely needed somebody to come in and change things up a bit and he did that extremely well. Eno focused the band and LP4 probably would have been as much as a mess as X&Y was, maybe even more so without him. On MX though I think he hindered the band's progress by insisting on all those beeps and sound effects. It could have been partly his idea to move away from the acoustic album which was a bad move in my opinion. For LP6 I think the band should try making the album without his input and go for a more acoustic approach. It's probably the most logical next step for them. And yeah I know that one of the reasons to scrap the acoustic thing was because they thought it wouldn't be exciting live but at this point I think they need to learn from what Radiohead did with Kid A and forget about what it would sound like live and just make a fantastic record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrk Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yes, because I think he improved their sound and made them write music from a new prospective. And I think that the caustic album idea was quite unoriginal. I really love the production on MX (the vocal effects and all those agree make the songs even more interesting) so I'd keep him as the producer for at least other two albums. Oh, and for me Eno is the Mozart of our times :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrk Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 DP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I think Coldplay work better under pressure, regardless of producer. A Rush of Blood to the Head was made under pressure to better Parachutes, and Viva was made under pressure to become a better band, and those two are the two best albums. Mylo Xyloto is the sound of Coldplay being as comfortable as they've ever been. Sloppy? Complacent? Maybe. But that's down to the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedPolitik Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 The acoustic stuff is what ruins MX to some extent, why the hell do people think the move to electronic stuff was bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lois Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Eno's Magic Both MX and VLV are very different to Parachutes and Rush of Blood to the Head. The band even said that they would like to explore their music at little more and having all of the albums yes the last two are different but you do have to move on. Coldplay have changed for the better but again that is my biased opinion as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamorlife Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I think it's good that Coldplay got some advice on synths and effects and so on. Because the way they used them on VLV and MX is in my opinion far better than on X & Y. Musically I think he made in some aspects better: I love Jonny on HLH, and I think the new influences on Paradise and PoC are cool and new. But UFO or Up with the Birds are not really that much of an improvement over Amsterdam, Trouble, The Scientist or DAAHF. But I still like his influence, especially for the fact he made their albums so good as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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