beastwars

Ok, I'm opening the thread tomorrow ;)

you don't like oldplayers you don't like negativity you don't like criticism you like ahfod you like mx you think that people in this this thread are here only because they like to complain about something CP related so my question is: why the * are you still posting here? Leave us alone if you don't understand us

Maybe if we open a new thread someone will jump in

I try to share my opinion A Head Full Of Dreams - It seems like a U2 cover feat. Cut Copy. It clearly reminds of ETIAW, but for me it's slightly better, even if Chris forgot to write lyrics for the second half. 7/10 Birds - A good episode. It feels very indie pop and the fact that vocals remind of Win Butler makes think of Arcade Fire even for the music. The more I listen to it the more I discover new details, starting from the vaguely dreamy guitars. Please Jonny, delay e reverb as much as you can. The abrupt ending is quite unsettling. 7,5/10 Hymn For The Weekend - An awful let down. Melodically is too similar to "Give Me A Reason" by Nate Ruess & Pink, pathetic lyrics, terrible bridge & chorus. This could easily be a single by Destiny's Child & Flo Rida with Alexandra Stan. 4/10 Everglow - Ok, it's simple, classic 4 chords, Chris is almost without voice, but it's the ONLY song of the album that's Coldplay. It doesn't take me emotionally, but I can say that I like it. Even without ambitions and ideas, the boys make good songs when they don't forget their identity. 8,5/10 Adventure Of A Lifetime - Daft Punk, Pharrell & Bruno Mars, woohoo. A nightmare. 5/10 Fun (feat. Tove Lo) - A good experiment for me. the combination of the two voices is surprisingly good. The only flaw is that it seems an Imagine Dragons song. 7.5/10 Kaleidoscope - A spot for Obama. 2/10 Army Of One - electropop cover of "Every Breaking Wave". 6/10 X Marks The Spot - Lowest point of their career by a mile. 0/10 Amazing Day: a classic ballad ruined by Stargate pompous production. 6/10 Colour Spectrum: Nothing with nothing feat. nothing. N.V. Up&Up: This could be a great song, but Stargate completely ruined it again. First 6+ mins song of their career, two great guitar solos , a Champagne Supernova-alike structure, but this claustrophobic overproduction mess it all. The ending is criminal. 6,5/10 It lacks of cohesion, transitions are not very good, songs are what they are. My final vote is 5/10. Now they should go on hiatus for at least 5 years, reset their minds and then go autoproducing. Maybe we could achieve a final good album in this way. But it will never happen

It's very difficult because we're saying very different things. The thing I think the most of us agree with is that production is very bad

I try to share my opinion A Head Full Of Dreams - It seems like a U2 cover feat. Cut Copy. It clearly reminds of ETIAW, but for me it's slightly better, even if Chris forgot to write lyrics for the second half. 7/10 Birds - A good episode. It feels very indie pop and the fact that vocals remind of Win Butler makes think of Arcade Fire even for the music. The more I listen to it the more I discover new details, starting from the vaguely dreamy guitars. Please Jonny, delay e reverb as much as you can. The abrupt ending is quite unsettling. 7,5/10 Hymn For The Weekend - An awful let down. Melodically is too similar to "Give Me A Reason" by Nate Ruess & Pink, pathetic lyrics, terrible bridge & chorus. This could easily be a single by Destiny's Child & Flo Rida with Alexandra Stan. VOTO 4 Everglow - Ok, it's simple, classic 4 chords, Chris is almost without voice, but it's the ONLY song of the album that's Coldplay. It doesn't take me emotionally, but I can say that I like it. Even without ambitions and ideas, the boys make good songs when they don't forgot their identity. 8,5/10 Adventure Of A Lifetime - Daft Punk, Pharrell & Bruno Mars, woohoo. A nightmare. 5/10 Fun (feat. Tove Lo) - A good experiment for me. the combination of the two voices is surprisingly good. The only flaw is that it seems an Imagine Dragons song. 7.5/10 Kaleidoscope - A spot for Obama. 2/10 Army Of One - electropop cover of "Every Breaking Wave". 6/10 X Marks The Spot - Lowest point of their career by a mile. 0/10 Amazing Day: a classic ballad ruined by Stargate pompous production. 6/10 Colour Spectrum: Nothing with nothing feat. nothing. N.V. Up&Up: This could be a great song, but Stargate completely ruined it again. First 6+ mins song of their career, two great guitar solos , a Champagne Supernova-alike structure, but this claustrophobic overproduction mess it all. The ending is criminal. 6,5/10 It lacks of cohesion, transitions are not very good, songs are what they are. My final vote is 5/10. Now they should go on hiatus for at least 5 years, reset their minds and then go autoproducing. Maybe we could achieve a final good album in this way. But it will never happen

1. X&Y (Fav. Speed Of Sound) 2. A Rush Of Blood To The Head (Fav. Warning Sign) 3. Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends (Fav. Chinese Sleep Chant) 4. Parachutes (Fav. Spies) 5. Ghost Stories (Fav. Midnight) 6. Mylo Xyloto (Fav. Up With The Birds) 7. A Head Full Of Dreams (Fav. Everglow)

1) Everglow 2) Birds 3) Fun (feat. Tove Lo) 4) A Head Full Of Dreams 5) Up&Up 6) Army Of One 7) Amazing Day 8) Colour Spectrum 9) Adventure Of A Lifetime 10) Hymn For The Weekend 11) Kaleidoscope 12) X Marks The Spot

Allora, oggi tra che sono stato impegnato la mattina e il forum che era down non sono riuscito a dire la mia come avrei voluto, ne approfitto adesso. A Head Full Of Dreams - Una cover degli U2 in salsa Cut Copy che risulta essere una versione aggiornata di ETIAW. A differenza di quest'ultima però si lascia ascoltare di più, nonostante a metà canzone si sia dimenticato il testo a casa. Perlomeno è sinceramente pop ed ha un minimo di senso. VOTO: 7 Birds - Altro episodio secondo me piuttosto riuscito. Sa tanto di indie pop e il fatto che le linee vocali richiamino tanto Will Butler mi fa venire in mente gli Arcade Fire. Più la ascolto più ne scopro dei particolari interessanti, a partire dalla chitarra vagamente (ma moooooolto vagamente) dreamy. Ti prego Jonny, d'ora in poi delay e reverb a manetta mi raccomando. Il finale interrotto così spiazza un po'. VOTO 7,5 Hymn For The Weekend - Come ha detto bene Kidd Is Alive, una caduta di stile clamorosa. Melodicamente mi ricorda troppo "Give Me A Reason" di Nate Ruess e Pink, il resto lo fa un testo raccapricciante per quanto tamarro e una combo bridge/ritornello che nemmeno nei peggior bar di Caracas. Quì si rispolverano le Destiny's Child e gli si uniscono Flo Rida e Alexandra Stan. VOTO 4 Everglow - Ok, sarà scolastica, semplice, con i soliti 4 accordi, Chris ha finito la voce, tutto quello che volete, ma è l'unica e ripeto l'UNICA canzone in tutto l'album che sa veramente di Coldplay e basta. Non mi fa venire i brividi lungo la schiena, ma è l'unica canzone di cui posso dire tranquillamente che mi piace. E' inutile attegiarsi e far finta di essere qualcosa di diverso da quello che si è, chi nasce tondo non muore quadrato. Anche senza idee e senza nessuna ambizione, i ragazzi sfornano belle canzoni quando si ricordano di avere un'identità come in questo caso. VOTO 8,5 Adventure Of A Lifetime - Ne abbiamo ampiamente discusso. Inizialmente quei 10 secondi di intro mi facevano quasi ben sperare, poi però arrivano i Daft Punk, Pharrell e Bruno Mars con tanto di scimmioni che iniziano a fare woohoo e si ripiomba nell'incubo. VOTO 5 Fun (feat. Tove Lo) - Altro episodio riuscito del disco. La cosa più sorprendente è quanto la voce di Tove Lo si sposi con quella di Chris. Se ti dimentichi di essere su un disco dei Coldplay invece di uno degli Imagine Dragons potrebbe pure piacerti di più. Comunque un buon esperimento, ma niente di più. VOTO: 7,5 Kaleidoscope - Un riff di piano a cazzo di cane che fa da tappeto ad uno spot per le presidenziali di Obama. Roba quasi da illuminati e scie chimiche. Fatico non solo a considerarla una canzone ma perfino un intermezzo. VOTO: 2 Army Of One - La versione electropop di "Every Breaking Wave", veramente troppo uguale, al punto che ce la puoi cantare sopra. A parte questo, mi è proprio insipida, da una parte come arrangiamento non è nemmeno malaccio, però poi senti l'autotune e un testo rivedibile e dici "ok, next". VOTO: 6 X Marks The Spot - Ci sarebbero tante cose da dire. Ma penso che sia tutto riassumibile con un "CHRIS FATTI RICOVERARE, SEI PATETICO". Mi sento offeso dal fatto che una cagata pazzesca come questa non solo sia stata partorita dalla sua mente, ma che tutti gli altri abbiano approvato che possa essere finita sull'album. E' agghiacciante, ridicola, sembra una parodia, inconcepibile, vomitevole, abominevole (inserire aggettivi a caso). Riesce nell'impresa di scalzare dal podio delle canzoni più brutte della storia dei CP Princess Of China, A Sky Full Of Stars e persino la new entry Hymn For The Weekend. Senza alcun dubbio il punto più basso della loro carriera, ed ha le sembianze della Fossa delle Marianne. VOTO: 0 Amazing Day: Quì gli Stargate iniziano a fare i killer, subito con un bel "pompo nelle casse" inutile per prepararci alla cagata finale di Up&Up. Di per sè la canzone sarebbe pure carina, una discreta ballata che vedrei bene da wedding song, niente di eccezionale eh, te la dimentichi 5 secondi dopo che l'hai sentita, ma ci sta. Peccato la produzione. VOTO: 6 Colour Spectrum: Un reprise del synth nell'intro. Non era essenziale, non apre un granchè la strada alla traccia successiva, insomma, un inutile minuto e qualcosa di nulla. VOTO: S.V. Up&Up: Avete già detto tutto voi, mi limito a dire che un bimbo di 5 anni che cazzeggia col mixer avrebbe fatto di molto meglio di sti due tamarri norvegesi. Per la prima volta i Coldplay sforano i 6 minuti, ci sono due assoli ottimi di Jonny con la supervisione di Noel, con una struttura dal respiro di una Champagne Supernova più dimessa, ma questa overproduzione spinta non le dà il respiro che meriterebbe, è claustrofobica, ad un certo punto cerchi il freno a mano tirato nelle auricolari e non lo trovi e ti chiedi che senso abbia uno spreco simile. Alla fine i cori di voci bianche sul ritornello funzionano, i 6 minuti e passa trascorrono in fretta e anche benino, ma non pui non scuotere la testa in segno di protesta per aver lasciato a dei principianti la libertà di tarpare le ali ad un brano che con uno stampo più classico sarebbe stato davvero meritevole. Anche qua chiusura da criminali. VOTO 6,5 Considerando che c'è poca coesione tra le tracce, le transizioni non sono curate, che per quanto fossi preparato ad una debacle una Caporetto di queste dimensioni era impronosticabile la mia valutazione non può che essere insufficiente. Guardo il lato positivo, li ringrazio per quel lampo di lucidità che risponde al nome di Everglow, mi auguro che si prendano una bella pausa dopo il tour, ma lunga eh, almeno 5/6 anni. Facciano altro, pensino ai figli, ad altri progetti o qualsivoglia cosa, ma mollino tutto e tutti, cancellino i contatti, concludano il contratto con la major e nel 2020 facciano una bella reunion autoprodotta, così possono mettere la parola fine lasciando in modo degno, come avrebbero dovuto fare dopo Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends. Voto finale: 5

The piano melody is "Just Give Me A Reason" by Nate Ruess faet. Pink ... The chorus seems like an Alexandra Stan song. To make it simple: IT IS F* TERRIBLE AS EXPECTED

This song seems like U2 feat. Cut Copy

I can play guitar and keyboards (not at a high level though), but I'm mainly a singer

I managed to find the album version of the song. I can say that I like it, but I was noticing its position between Hymn For The Weekend and Adventure Of A Lifetime... It seems like they put it there to try to save people from throwing the album through the window :lol:

I'm already preparing my list :lol:

Yes, it absolutely was. But original doesn't mean that you're not influenced by anything. Everybody take inspiration by someone else, to be original you have to find that balance between your specific style and your influences, in order to sound fresh and being immediately recognisable. When I hear Violet Hill or Lovers In Japan I can say "this is Coldplay" from the first notes, even if I know that Arcade Fire influenced them (and Chris at the time admitted that by saying that AF are the best band in the world, and I agree with this opinion). When I listen for example to "Adventure Of A Lifetime" I think of Bruno Mars feat. Daft Punk, not Coldplay, this is what I'm trying to say.

Even the chords are slightly similar

Explanations like this shouldn't even be needed in a community like this, but I'm glad that Thalia spent her time to do that. Freedom isn't always peaceful, but everybody have to respect what the other ones are saying. In the end we are all here for the same main reason: we love this 4 (5 if you count Phil) guys and they did for us (in a recent past or still today depending on what you think of their recent outputs), so please be kind and respectful and enjoy your permanence in here. I'm still a new entry as a user, but I really enjoy to talk to people from other countries about music, that it's one of the thing I like most about life (and, I'm sure, everybody round here agree with me), I had the opportunity to discover great things and I hope that someone discovered something interesting in what I posted here. Happiness is real only when shared. Now I go back talking peacefully with...

IMHO Hello is an average songs, and so the whole new album. I find it very repetitive and bland, except for "I Miss You" and "Remedy" tht are good but not that great. "21" was waaaay better and more versatile in terms of rhythm and style (think of "Rumour Has It" and "Rolling In The Deep" for example). I'm not saying it to defend CP (in fact I'm one of the most critic users of CPing), I really think it. Maybe the production is very clean, but the songs are not only production, they're also creativity and 25 hasn't got it that much.

In the darkness before the dawn In the kitchen the lights are low Well, I think I have to apologise for what I've done.... ...the Nutella finished at all

Spies... or Murder

You didn't read the other posts before, did you?

To explain it better, look how VLVODAHHF was received when it was released and the differences with MX. Both of them have been a great departure from their previous work, but the first was acclaimed, the second was criticised. Why? If it was like you said before, Oldplayer should have hated them both, but instead they love VLV. The answer is that VLV is original, inspired and inspiring, versatile but you can recognise the true soul of CP in their songs. They reinvented themselves staying coherent with the people they are. And I just can't find all these things in their following albums, except for a couple of songs here and there, that's the fact.

What people don't usually understand about Oldplayers is that we don't want them to sound just like they sounded before, we want only them to be TRUE TO THEIRSELVES. Originality is that balance between being recognisable, reinventing your sound and try something different from what the 99% of the world does.

Well, when I was a young boy (I tried to listen :lol:) almost every song CP was putting out for me was the best song ever. Growing up, I realized how many great songs there are in contemporary music history and I revisited my opinions. I think that someone is experiencing something similar at the moment

P.S. Warning Sign is a masterpiece, you really can't compare Everglow to it. Ok, we are all CP fans round here, but let's try not to act like 1D-fanboys and being objective people.