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Israel / Lebanon / Iran / Syria - Middle East conflict!

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Suicide bombers who kill in the name of islam arent proper Muslims. Islam is a peaceful religion and killing innocent civillans is not peaceful.
i feeling there is somthing you would to say and you didt said it

 

let me clear to you and to everybody here the islam and suicdbombers

in our religion there word named by esteshhad by arabic meaning in english when you died in war for your country or religion so you in your way to paradise such as

6 of october in 1973 every muslim had been killed there he in paradise now

that simple thing coz he was fought to back land had been taken from us by isreali in 1967

about what happened now Suicide bombers not new style or islam has been created it but it is natural in human so i will proofed that now

1:there in second world war japans soldiers were Suicided for their country. defending for it (i think they weret a muslim ppl)

2:in war between vitnam and usa there is ppl had been suicide into american troops coz they were defending for their country.if you want more about it just tell me and i will bring to you facts form history.

tell me why that not happened in mulims country like egypt why?

that happened only occupied country like plastine.

muslims are human exactly like you,he like life and live it beside his family and like anyone but when someone came and killing all his family or his brother what you want from him to do tell me what.

at least he will hated who was doing it and his country and he will thinking about revnage how he can revange to his family and hundreds of thousands like his story.

we will suppose to he will buy a gun and going to kill civilian ppl like his family?

what will happening after that when anyone soldier see that in his hand he will be killed

what about if he cant dealing with guns.the most easier revange by bomb.

after all of that a revange natural to being human.

all i want to say media mixed between el esteshhad (i was talked about it ) and suicde bombers and didt talk about whO was pressure behind suicde ??????????????

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Suicide bombers who kill in the name of islam arent proper Muslims. Islam is a peaceful religion and killing innocent civillans is not peaceful.
i feeling there is somthing you would to say and you didt said it

 

let me clear to you and to everybody here the islam and suicdbombers

in our religion there word named by esteshhad by arabic meaning in english when you died in war for your country or religion so you in your way to paradise such as

6 of october in 1973 every muslim had been killed there he in paradise now

that simple thing coz he was fought to back land had been taken from us by isreali in 1967

about what happened now Suicide bombers not new style or islam has been created it but it is natural in human so i will proofed that now

1:there in second world war japans soldiers were Suicided for their country. defending for it (i think they weret a muslim ppl)

2:in war between vitnam and usa there is ppl had been suicide into american troops coz they were defending for their country.if you want more about it just tell me and i will bring to you facts form history.

tell me why that not happened in mulims country like egypt why?

that happened only occupied country like plastine.

muslims are human exactly like you,he like life and live it beside his family and like anyone but when someone came and killing all his family or his brother what you want from him to do tell me what.

at least he will hated who was doing it and his country and he will thinking about revnage how he can revange to his family and hundreds of thousands like his story.

we will suppose to he will buy a gun and going to kill civilian ppl like his family?

what will happening after that when anyone soldier see that in his hand he will be killed

what about if he cant dealing with guns.the most easier revange by bomb.

after all of that a revange natural to being human.

all i want to say media mixed between el esteshhad (i was talked about it ) and suicde bombers and didt talk about whO was pressure behind suicde ??????????????

to washing ppl mind and make them hated muslims and islam......

As far as i am aware, Kamikazee pilots only attacked miltary forces - The milliarty is a more legit target then innocent civillans.

 

Suicide bombers hide in civillan crowds and there aim is to massacre civillans.

you said you a question and anwser at that time

army infront army but in this condition army infront civilian.

let me clear to that

becouse army fighting army not civilian ppl when isreal army broken a door and killing father and mather infront sons and there is more than it what do suspect form sons to do?????if you dont belive it just tell me and i will bring evidience from life.....

Life was NOT better under saddam...he killed hundreds of thousands of his own people....the only difference is its in the news more' date=' before the deaths were mostly done by secret police under the radar.:embarassed:[/quote']

 

I was being sarcastic!

you said you a question and anwser at that time

army infront army but in this condition army infront civilian.

let me clear to that

becouse army fighting army not civilian ppl when isreal army broken a door and killing father and mather infront sons and there is more than it what do suspect form sons to do?????if you dont belive it just tell me and i will bring evidience from life.....

 

 

What about sucide bombers who drive car bombs into Israeli School buses?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avivim_school_bus_massacre

 

http://www.ict.org.il/spotlight/det.cfm?id=524

 

Aprrently the school buses in Israel are armoured.

 

I hate to break the news to you, but these are examples of what Islamic sucide bombers do. The people you support deliebratly killed children. It wasnt a stray missle, it wasnt someone caught in the crossfire. They set out to kill Children.

 

Know, how do you expect the Israel to keep calm when this happens?

Israel will retailate. right or wrong it will. You guys attack Israel and Israel will attack back and the losers are the civillians on both sides who get caught up in it all.

 

To compare Suicide bombers who kill civillans with Kamikazee pilots who attack the millatry - theres no real comparsion.

 

I sympathise with the Palastinian people, they have every right to be pissed - But violence leads to more violence and in most cases, you guys started it.

 

I think you guys need to learn about Gandi and what he achieved using peaceful methods.

u say we need 2 learn about gandi & wht he did achieved using peaceful methodes, i think u 4 got here 2 talk about dr. king & mr. mandella 2.. man we dnt look 4 war or using violence 2 get our lands back, my friend i think u the 1 who have 2 learn about history.

when ben gorion declered the state of israel in 1948 that was after big bath of blood done by the israeli army who was responsible of the death over 3 million paestinian person, for an example there was the massacre of ((der yassen))..

wht i dnt think tht u kno about Der Yaseen tht there was no one had a weapon there all these viilage ppl were women, kids, & old men whom can't deffend them selves.

my friend am not saying tht we can fire over 5 million israeli out their country but also the palestinian ppl have the right 2 establish thie own country.

i 've one more request from u plz go & read some history book before telling us 2 learn from gandi .

Well i found this about Ben Gorion

 

He was also involved in occasional violent resistance during the short period of time his organization cooperated with Menachem Begin's Irgun, though he refused to be involved in terrorism of any kind, and insisted that violence only be used against military targets. Ben-Gurion initially agreed to Begin's plan to carry out the King David Hotel bombing, with the intent of humiliating (rather than killing) the British military stationed there. However, when the risks of mass killing became apparent, Ben-Gurion told Begin to call the operation off; Begin refused.[1]

 

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/David+Ben-Gurion

 

and he also ordered this attack on Jewish Terroists

 

During the first weeks of Israel's independence, he passed the decision to disband all resistance groups and replace them with a single formal army, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). To that end, Ben-Gurion gave the order to open fire upon and sink a ship named Altalena, which carried ammunition for the Irgun (also called Etzel) resistance group. That command remains controversial to this day.

 

I cant find any evidence of Der Yasseen - have you got anylinks?

when ben gorion declered the state of israel in 1948 that was after big bath of blood done by the israeli army who was responsible of the death over 3 million paestinian person, for an example there was the massacre of ((der yassen))..

wht i dnt think tht u kno about Der Yaseen tht there was no one had a weapon there all these viilage ppl were women, kids, & old men whom can't deffend them selves.

Can you check spelling on Ben Gorion and Der Yaseen, I can't find anything about them on wikipedia

 

edit... ah, I'm too slow

Ben Gurion- First Israeli prime minister.

and First MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN.

Between 9 and 11 April 1948, over 100 Arab townspeople were massacred by Jewish paramilitaries in Deir Yassin near Jerusalem in the British Mandate of Palestine. The incident was pivotal in modern Middle East history, becoming in one Israeli historian's words, "a landmark in the chronicles of the Israel-Arab conflict and a symbol of the horrors of war."(1) It greatly stimulated Palestinian Arab refugee flight and appears to have been critical in the final decision of the Arab states to intervene directly in Palestine in 1948 to thwart the creation of the state of Israel. The Deir Yassin incident, therefore, is intimately connected to the two main issues that have defined the Arab-Israeli conflict: the armed hostility to Israel by the Arab states and the enduring Palestinian refugee issue.

to more details

http://www.questia.com/PM.qst;jsessionid=GdGQ0zTy1RR3sVfTBGk1dLtCfXxQcs6qFNjnwGbLKYls5gmND8hy!68860294!509813057?a=o&d=5000970058

I like how you forget the Arab massacre of Jews

 

The 1929 Arab-Jewish clash included deadly Arab attacks on the Jewish community, climaxing in the massacre of dozens of non-Zionist religious Jews in Hebron. The Arab rebellion against the British in the late 1930s led to the deaths of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Arabs through official counterinsurgecy and internal Arab disputes, as well as causing the deaths of hundreds of Jews in Arab raids, terror attacks, and combat against Jews who assisted the British.

 

From that same article.

and First MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN.

Between 9 and 11 April 1948, over 100 Arab townspeople were massacred by Jewish paramilitaries in Deir Yassin near Jerusalem in the British Mandate of Palestine. The incident was pivotal in modern Middle East history, becoming in one Israeli historian's words, "a landmark in the chronicles of the Israel-Arab conflict and a symbol of the horrors of war."(1) It greatly stimulated Palestinian Arab refugee flight and appears to have been critical in the final decision of the Arab states to intervene directly in Palestine in 1948 to thwart the creation of the state of Israel. The Deir Yassin incident, therefore, is intimately connected to the two main issues that have defined the Arab-Israeli conflict: the armed hostility to Israel by the Arab states and the enduring Palestinian refugee issue.

to more details

http://www.questia.com/PM.qst;jsessionid=GdGQ0zTy1RR3sVfTBGk1dLtCfXxQcs6qFNjnwGbLKYls5gmND8hy!68860294!509813057?a=o&d=5000970058

 

 

bad things happen during war, a war they DID not start. not to mention 100 dead? thousands of jews have been killed from the 20's-1948.....they didnt start this.

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Israel Pushing U.S. To Invade Iran

 

American Free Press/Mike Blair | September 16 2006

 

The Bush administration and the British government are under increasing pressure from the Israelis to conduct an illegal air strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities, according to a number of reports in Europe’s largest newspapers.

 

In London, The Sunday Telegraph and the daily Telegraph have reported that war clouds are spreading as Iran continues its nuclear development and Israel reacts to it.

 

According to The Sunday Telegraph Israel has appointed Maj. Gen. Elyezer Shkedy, commander of the Israeli air force, to direct military action against Tehran. Meanwhile, the Telegraph reports that Britain is holding secret talks “at which senior defense chiefs and government officials will consider the consequences of an attack on Iran.”

 

The Pentagon is also drawing up plans for an attack. U.S. military ground forces are already bogged down in Afghanistan and Iraq, and in dozens of other deployments abroad.

 

Still, irresponsible air strikes against Iran’s nuclear sites, which would inevitably result in massive, insoluble geopolitical, military, energy and economic problems, are planned by Bush administration numbskulls.

 

Israel, as usual, is counting on U.S. backing—and it is making it obvious that if there is no strike on Iran it will act on its own.

 

In a recent visit to the United States, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned “friend and foe alike” that Israel is prepared to “take on any country or combination of countries” to protect itself.

 

The Israelis refer to the “Iran Front,” The Sunday Telegraph reports. “Israel is becoming extremely concerned now with what they see as Iran’s delaying tactics,” an Israeli-Iran analyst told the newspaper. “The [israeli] planners think negotiations are going nowhere, and Iran is becoming a major danger for Israel. Now they are getting ready for living with a nuclear Iran or letting the military take care of it.”

 

According to the British publication “Gen. Shkedy will coordinate the intelligence gathered by Israel’s foreign spy agency Mossad and military sources, in order to draw up battle plans. . . . He will command the campaign from a ‘hot seat’ in the Israeli army’s headquarters in Tel Aviv.”

 

Uri Dromi, a former air force colonel and analyst, told The Sunday Telegraph: “It’s natural that Shkedy is nominated in this role, because the air force is Israel’s only force that can reach and sustain a military operation against Iran. . . .Everyone is playing with dates and time frames . . . but the list of options is becoming shorter. I think we have one year open [to launch military action].”

 

Israel reportedly has an arsenal of at least 200 nuclear warheads and as many as 400.

 

The Telegraph reported wishfully:

 

[it is] believed that an American-led attack, designed to destroy Iran’s ability to develop a nuclear bomb, is ‘inevitable’ if Tehran’s leaders fail to comply with United Nations’ demands to freeze their uranium enrichment program..

 

Tactical Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from U.S. Navy ships and submarines in the gulf would, it is believed, target Iran’s air defense systems at the nuclear installations.

 

That would enable attacks by B2 Stealth bombers equipped with eight 4,500-pound enhanced BLU-28 satellite-guided bunker busting bombs, flying from Diego Garcia, the isolated U.S. Navy base in the Indian Ocean, RAF [Royal Air Force] base Fairford in Gloucestershire and Whiteman USAF base in Missouri.

 

It is understood that any direct British involvement in an attack would be limited but may extend to the use of the RAF’s highly secret airborne warning aircraft. The belief in some areas of Whitehall is that an attack is now all but inevitable.

in facts isreal want to destory every powerfull country in the middle east to be she alone storgest country in the middle east and take want she want to take

in facts isreal want to destory every powerfull country in the middle east to be she alone storgest country in the middle east and take want she want to take

 

Its already the strongest in the middle east

 

you've been fed lies about what they want to do, they are trying to live in peace but keep getting attacked. If they wanted to destroy other arab nations they could have done so already and they have chosen not to.....sorry but your thoery does not add up

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If they wanted to destroy other arab nations they could have done so already"

 

No they couldn't just go and destroy arab nations if they wanted to.....it would need a major event for them to get away with random country destruction.

 

Which actually might happen soon if Israel gets their way.

If they wanted to destroy other arab nations they could have done so already"

 

No they couldn't just go and destroy arab nations if they wanted to.....it would need a major event for them to get away with random country destruction.

 

Which actually might happen soon if Israel gets their way.

 

If they wanted to they could, just like America or Russia could. It would do them alot of harm and cause political problems so they wont but if they did so choose they could.

 

And if they dont get their way they will be destroyed and massacred.

An interesting fact that before the Arab/Israeli conflict the word Palestinian was only used for indigenous Jews.

 

It was never used to describe Arabs who had moved into the area until like the 1960's.

If they wanted to they could, just like America or Russia could. It would do them alot of harm and cause political problems so they wont but if they did so choose they could.

 

And if they dont get their way they will be destroyed and massacred.

 

 

No they coulden't.Look what happened in Lebanon,they can't do anything,they can't face anyone face to face

 

If they try to do anything with anyone [ like Egypt e.g. ] they will destroyed

An interesting fact that before the Arab/Israeli conflict the word Palestinian was only used for indigenous Jews.

 

It was never used to describe Arabs who had moved into the area until like the 1960's.

 

 

I always wonder,from where you get these information?:rolleyes:

No they coulden't.Look what happened in Lebanon,they can't do anything,they can't face anyone face to face

 

If they try to do anything with anyone [ like Egypt e.g. ] they will destroyed

 

Look what happened in Lebanon? well they werent using the full force of their army, the held back and didnt want to kill too many civilians and it only lasted a month. Thus they really didnt do much. If they would like to they could, with their military and nukes.

 

Egypt could never take Israel, they have beaten before and that was before they modernised. Now Israel's army is the best on the world, far better then the american army, its only fault is its small. Egypt's army is outdated, undertrained and underfunded. If Israel felt like it they could easily invade your nation and cause alot of destruction.

I always wonder' date='from where you get these information?:rolleyes:[/quote']

 

It does not matter. The truth is the truth no matter where it comes from.

Egypt's military is one of the best in that region, one of the most modern but its not too large or well trained or funded.

Look what happened in Lebanon? well they werent using the full force of their army, the held back and didnt want to kill too many civilians and it only lasted a month. Thus they really didnt do much. If they would like to they could, with their military and nukes.

 

Egypt could never take Israel, they have beaten before and that was before they modernised. Now Israel's army is the best on the world, far better then the american army, its only fault is its small. Egypt's army is outdated, undertrained and underfunded. If Israel felt like it they could easily invade your nation and cause alot of destruction.

 

You really have sense of humor:laugh3:

 

Look what happening now in Israel,to see how they failed to invade Lebanon

 

Because they know they lost the war,in the last three days the drooped more than 100,000 cluster bomb. They attack by more than 15,000 soldiers and try to bring more and you said the weren't using the full force of their army:rolleyes:

 

 

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