October 11, 200619 yr Hey, everyone. I was just thinking about a dichotomy between the music of Coldplay and Radiohead & Thom Yorke. If I'm feeling hopeless and alienated (you know, "We all die alone anyway and that's just the way it is," etc., etc.) I gravitate more to Thom; if I'm feeling more hopeful about life and my problems, I gravitate more to Chris for help. Sometimes I want to listen to Fix You; sometimes I'd rather just say "fuck it" and listen to Black Swan for reassurance. Does anybody else feel this way about Chris, Coldplay and other, less hopeful music? I guess you can tell that I'd rather be on Chris's side. But confrontation is tough.
October 11, 200619 yr well actually i just love to listen to chris not matter what mood im in, cos just hearing coldplay and his voice make's me happier and lighter in life
October 11, 200619 yr I'm kinda the same, jamus. Though Thom would probably throw a fit, if you told him that Radiohead are better for "all is lost" moods and Coldplay for "all is not lost" moods. He said in an interview once that he did not write 'The Bends' for "people to slash their f****** wrist to. :laugh3: A.
October 11, 200619 yr Chris is milion times better singer and person And he's million times hotter :H
October 11, 200619 yr It depends... sometimes I fell more like Radiohead-mood, sometimes Coldplay-mood. If I feel kinda romantic and sad, I listen to Coldplay, but if I'm disappointed or angry, I listen to Radiohead. Both Chris and Thom have beautiful voices, imo.
October 11, 200619 yr Yeah Thom has a good voice too. But the Radiohead music is vague for me. Don't know :) It's a vague kind of music, let's put it in that way.
October 11, 200619 yr Hey' date=' everyone. I was just thinking about a dichotomy between the music of Coldplay and Radiohead & Thom Yorke. If I'm feeling hopeless and alienated (you know, "We all die alone anyway and that's just the way it is," etc., etc.) I gravitate more to Thom; if I'm feeling more hopeful about life and my problems, I gravitate more to Chris for help. Sometimes I want to listen to Fix You; sometimes I'd rather just say "fuck it" and listen to Black Swan for reassurance. Does anybody else feel this way about Chris, Coldplay and other, less hopeful music? I guess you can tell that I'd rather be on Chris's side. But confrontation is tough.[/quote'] it's your opinion of course, but saying Radiohead's lyrics are about "We all die alone anyway and that's just the way it is" is ridiculous. it's not easy to interpret Yorke's lyrics, but what you are saying seems like a childish misconception to me. name me one song when Thom points at "we're all gonna die alone" stuff i would suggest to read some books first to understand Radiohead's lyrics deeper, of course only if you want. mainly, Thom's lyrics are influenced by literature from George Orwell, Douglas Adams, Thomas Pynchon or let's say George Monbiot who Thom is a big fan of, by the way also... Coldplay wrote not only hopeful music, they are/were describe(d) as depressive and heavily Radiohead influenced quite often. so i don't really get why you've described them as they were opposites to each other and just to avoid some possible attacks, i'm saying all this as a music fan and not as a Coldplay- or as a Radiohead fan ;) back to topic, i prefer Radiohead and Thom Yorke over Coldplay and Chris Martin for many reasons
October 11, 200619 yr lol and what if his lyrics are influenced by literature? Are those poets so great singers as himself?
October 11, 200619 yr I really don't think Radiohead's music and lyrics are "hopeless". There's always a hope, maybe a tiny one, but it is. And there're many songs about love, about different sides of this feeling. I don't understand what does it have to do with lonely death anyway. Chris015, I kinda think you got it wrong... And I prefer Thom Yorke of course.
October 11, 200619 yr And he's million times hotter :H agree...:D comments like these make me doubt that there's still left something music related to discuss in this section
October 12, 200619 yr it's your opinion of course, but saying Radiohead's lyrics are about "We all die alone anyway and that's just the way it is" is ridiculous. it's not easy to interpret Yorke's lyrics, but what you are saying seems like a childish misconception to me. name me one song when Thom points at "we're all gonna die alone" stuff i would suggest to read some books first to understand Radiohead's lyrics deeper, of course only if you want. mainly, Thom's lyrics are influenced by literature from George Orwell, Douglas Adams, Thomas Pynchon or let's say George Monbiot who Thom is a big fan of, by the way also... Coldplay wrote not only hopeful music, they are/were describe(d) as depressive and heavily Radiohead influenced quite often. so i don't really get why you've described them as they were opposites to each other and just to avoid some possible attacks, i'm saying all this as a music fan and not as a Coldplay- or as a Radiohead fan ;) back to topic, i prefer Radiohead and Thom Yorke over Coldplay and Chris Martin for many reasons Sometimes, I actually consider some Radiohead songs to be addressing these themes quite directly. Not necessarily 'we all die alone' but themes of death etc. Street Spirit, Idioteque and No Suprises are some examples. But this does not phase me at all, they are some of my favourite songs ever. EDIT: And jamus, you could always go listen to 'Pop is Dead.':wink3:
October 12, 200619 yr Idioteque is about climate change, obviously No Surprises is a bit angry song. Thom is just fed up with the modern world, with politics and also probably with some personal problems. the whole meaning of OKC is the effect of the corrupted world economy on people Street Spirit is about death, that's true, but definitely not about "dying alone". in my opinion, he points at that the humanity isn't immortal and this is the rotation of life, someday we die. but there's a line "immerse your soul in love" which is clearly shows you some hope i'm not saying you can not interpret Thom's lyrics in different way, but generalising them with that "dying alone" stuff is childish and emo. it's like you only listen to Radiohead when you want to cut your wrists lol
October 12, 200619 yr All I can say is that I definitely prefer Thom Yorke over Chris martin at the moment.... for me it depends on my mood hehe..... obviously Thom must have better lyrics....because me as a non-native english speaker has more problems to understand Thom's lyrics than to understand Chris' lyrics...
October 12, 200619 yr Idioteque is about climate change, obviously No Surprises is a bit angry song. Thom is just fed up with the modern world, with politics and also probably with some personal problems. the whole meaning of OKC is the effect of the corrupted world economy on people Street Spirit is about death, that's true, but definitely not about "dying alone". in my opinion, he points at that the humanity isn't immortal and this is the rotation of life, someday we die. but there's a line "immerse your soul in love" which is clearly shows you some hope i'm not saying you can not interpret Thom's lyrics in different way, but generalising them with that "dying alone" stuff is childish and emo. it's like you only listen to Radiohead when you want to cut your wrists lol yeah. and Lucky is an optimistic song. Gives hope..
October 12, 200619 yr I must admit before I got into Radiohead properly, I used to think they were very depressing, and that Thom was just a moody git who didn't like much. That's what I was told, and I just believed it. But having got more and more into the music I started to realise how wrong I was. Musically, I don't think you can compare the two. Chris' lyrics are mainly nice and breezy; not really requiring that much concentration. Thom's lyrics, however, are much more substantial; they deal with politics and the environment and general fears of technology and the future. Their music makes me think, and I generally like that. As people, Chris seems to be very "celeb: married to a Hollywood actress, always doing interviews and basically very gregarious. Thom, on the other hand, is much more normal. He doesn't like interviews and has been called "awkward". They are both of course, nice people, but somehow I would rather hang out with Thom just because he seems my type of guy. Sorry about all that, I didn't intend to write that much.
October 12, 200619 yr Idioteque is about climate change, obviously No Surprises is a bit angry song. Thom is just fed up with the modern world, with politics and also probably with some personal problems. the whole meaning of OKC is the effect of the corrupted world economy on people Street Spirit is about death, that's true, but definitely not about "dying alone". in my opinion, he points at that the humanity isn't immortal and this is the rotation of life, someday we die. but there's a line "immerse your soul in love" which is clearly shows you some hope i'm not saying you can not interpret Thom's lyrics in different way, but generalising them with that "dying alone" stuff is childish and emo. it's like you only listen to Radiohead when you want to cut your wrists lol plus..i don't like the comparisons by people whpodon't even listen to RH and go for that general (mis)conceptions of RH and Thom, thinking theyre enough for this debate.:thinking:
October 12, 200619 yr i feel almost a...responsibility to like radiohead, but after trying...i kinda sorta dont. i just dont connect with it at all, and its not really my type of music. i respect them 100% as musicians and think theyre innovative and awesome and legendary, but i just cant get in the groove. i really dont understand how people compare them and coldplay at all, really. though i love love LOVE the song "airbag". i always listen to coldplay whenever im upset, particularly AROBTTH. i have a feeling that CD is going to be reduced to dust by the time my college application process is over. i think i need to listen to it now, in fact.
October 13, 200619 yr i feel almost a...responsibility to like radiohead, but after trying...i kinda sorta dont. i just dont connect with it at all, and its not really my type of music. i respect them 100% as musicians and think theyre innovative and awesome and legendary, but i just cant get in the groove. i really dont understand how people compare them and coldplay at all, really. though i love love LOVE the song "airbag". i always listen to coldplay whenever im upset, particularly AROBTTH. i have a feeling that CD is going to be reduced to dust by the time my college application process is over. i think i need to listen to it now, in fact. More people should be able to accept that statement than probably will.
October 13, 200619 yr Chris is all the way better than Yorke. almost all,even tthough Chris is God and Thom only human Thom is very close to be one the best some time
October 13, 200619 yr How can you even compare the two? They are completely different in everyway!!!!
October 13, 200619 yr i feel almost a...responsibility to like radiohead, but after trying...i kinda sorta dont. i just dont connect with it at all, and its not really my type of music. i respect them 100% as musicians and think theyre innovative and awesome and legendary, but i just cant get in the groove. i really dont understand how people compare them and coldplay at all, really. exactly how i feel, i dont seem to find ANYTHING special in Thom's voice.. it even annoys me sometimes, but i cant deny that they have amazing songs such as Let down,Fake plastic trees,Exit music or Street Spirit. but the ones that i really love are so so few... but Still, if i HAD to choose between Thom and Chris, idd say Chris.. I love his voice and i love his music.
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