I dunno, but I wouldn't be here unless my parents got here illegally, so iono what to say.

 

I dont have problem with the good illegal aliens. i bet your parents follow the laws well...but the bad out weighs the good in this situation and more harm caused by illegals then good. Thats why im agaisnt it. Hell i know a few illegals, the few i know are good people but a few good do not out weigh the damage teh bad cause.

definitely you don't understand anything.....

 

 

kid, you need to go outside the bubble...

 

Little girl...you need to learn about what goes on in the world and once you did you'd understand the bad thigns that happen on this earth

it comes down to good vs bad...the bad outweighs the good when it comes to illegal immigration...it only causes death and rape and only a few people are helped while more lives are destroyed.

first of all i'm not a little girl... and I know how the world works

 

i'm not the one who thinks that some people are better than other just because the country you were born or the money that you have...

 

that's just crap

 

and I'm going out of this thread because it's a shame to know that there's so big headed closed mind people here

first of all i'm not a little girl... and I know how the world works

 

i'm not the one who thinks that some people are better than other just because the country you were born or the money that you have...

 

that's just crap

 

and I'm going out of this thread because it's a shame to know that there's so big headed closed mind people here

 

Dont act like a little girl and you wont get called one.;)

 

I never said anyone was better then another. I said i will put my fellow citizens over others..ill do everything i can to help your people as long as it does not hurt mine....

 

You're the one saying the lives of illegals are more important than american citizens....

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You're the one saying the lives of illegals are more important than american citizens....more lives are hurt then helped...I could understand if more good was being done, then even i'd support it, but more damage is done just so a few non american can have better lives while millions of americans are having worse lives. You're putting a few above the whole....thus saying they're better then americans.

I put my people above others...that means every american over other people...if illegal aliens didnt cause so much harm, id before it. Buts it a us or them situation..and guess what i choose US! no need for tens of thousands to die and tens of millions to be raped so a few can have better life.

 

 

I read this whole thread and I can not stop thinking at least this comment is a racist one.

 

I am trying to understand your point,but this kind of comments do not help

I put my people above others...that means every american over other people...if illegal aliens didnt cause so much harm, id before it. Buts it a us or them situation..and guess what i choose US! no need for tens of thousands to die and tens of millions to be raped so a few can have better life.

 

Its this kind of attitude that makes America so despised.

 

Edit: Along with many other reasons.

definitely you don't understand anything.....

 

 

kid, you need to go outside the bubble...

 

No - I think he needs to be locked up in a "bubble"!!:rolleyes:

I read this whole thread and I can not stop thinking at least this comment is a racist one.

 

I am trying to understand your point,but this kind of comments do not help

 

His comments never help. They only infuriate!!;)

interesting article. question: how are you defining illegal aliens? is it one set group of illegal aliens? or are we lumping them together as one? reason I ask is because there are quite a few illegal british people living in america, but the way the conversation is reading suggests that the assumption has been made that they are from a certain ethnic group

So is everything you post that is political....so why even point it out? everything is pretty much propaganda...

 

yes... yes it is. Everything is propaganda.

 

 

don't you see what it happening here????? Slowly all of our rights are being compramised because they claim to have hidden agendas.... so this week illegal aliens is the 'agenda' but what its really saying is lets change the very foundation in which this country was founded on... immigrants!!!!! They have no other choice but enter the country illegally because of all the damn red tape they put up so th at they can enter legally. Yes, I agree its a problem. I do agree it needs to be regulated...... but by tacking on the idea that 99% of illegal aliens (or whatever the number is ....) are murderers, rapists, and thugs..... is pathetic. Thats why I laugh.....

lets just get this out of the way quickly, My girlfriend of close to two years, is a LEGAL alien from Ecuador..

 

I believe the illegal alien problem is growing by leaps and bounds....at this rate, natural born americans will be a minority in the united states! And i am all for helping people, and i understand that you cannot help where you were born, and that we americans really have more opportunities than anyone else in the world...but that does not mean you can break the laws. If i wanted to go to Germany without documentation or papers, i would be caught and shipped out immediately, with no other words about it. But since it is MOSTLY poor Mexicans coming from across the border, its ok....why is that? Why is the Mexican population allowed to break the laws that EVERYONE ELSE has to follow?? And i agree they are hardworking and the majority, are good people just in search of a better life.

 

But look at this, there are other countries in the world that would LOVE the opportunity to just run across the border into the US, my girlfriend from Ecuador for example..When their president emptied their treasury and ran off with the country's money, there were millions of people living in poverty and alot of them wanted to come to America. My girlfriend was one of the very lucky ones. She came here about 7 years ago....she began the naturalization process, and on her 6th year here (the year she is supposed to get her citizenship) they tell her and her family , "actually since the system has been so bogged down with illegals applying for citizenship and what not, you guys are going to have to wait 10 years instead". So in fact, Illegal aliens from Mexico are screwing other people in need as well, my Girlfriend's family wasnt able to come here until 3 years after she had been here, because of the amount of illegals coming in and bogging down the immigration system.

 

 

I understand the hardship these people are facing, i have seen it first hand, But that does NOT mean we just open the borders and make it a country you can just walk in and out of without so much as a bye or leave. We are a country with laws and regulations, and if you want to be a part of it, you have to follow them, or else what are we??? we arent a country if we have no laws and no regulations to protect its citizens and immigrants alike

The problem isn't going to go away.

 

Look at what the North American Union actually is and what it will mean.

 

And when the US dollar is worth shit everyone will ask themselves.....why didn't I know and see what was going on? Half the answer to that is: The process was originallly all signed over in secret. While the other half reflects directly on people living in a dreamland, where they think that Government is there to help.

 

Stop the North American Union (or The Security and Prosperity Partnership - sounds nice that why huh? well it's not)

 

Learn and Take action.

 

http://www.stopspp.com

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com

http://www.devvy.com/pdf/2006_December/karen_johnson_flyer_120306.pdf

Excuse me, but those "illegal aliens" are human beings as well. Just because they don't have the right paperwork to be in that country doesn't make them less human.

 

I know quite a few migrants, illegal and legal, they are very kind.

Excuse me, but those "illegal aliens" are human beings as well. Just because they don't have the right paperwork to be in that country doesn't make them less human.

 

I know quite a few migrants, illegal and legal, they are very kind.

 

I have to agree, they make much better workers then us Brits. Compare Mcdonalds for example - shitty food, shitty staff in the north, in London where theyre all east european =edible food, pretty staff.

 

I like immigrants, they clean our streets, serve our food and drinks, make the place look prettier, never complain, do lots of shity jobs for shite pay. They're more polite, wont get drunk and stab you becasue you looked at them.

 

I think they're ace.

 

 

I think that Netscape site is to Nick what prisonplanet is to Gareth.

 

I believe the illegal alien problem is growing by leaps and bounds....at this rate, natural born americans will be a minority in the united states!

 

^ this is what they are afraid of.... people like mr.coolo here... and every other idiot who agrees with him.

 

 

Viva la raza I say!!!!! :cool:

I think that Netscape site is to Nick what prisonplanet is to Gareth.

 

Ahhh, Fuck you!!

 

Do I link to prisonplanet on this thread? no I don't. You act so absolutely dim at times. Imply whatever you want.

 

Also - YOU: "I think they're ace" - Eh? that's not the issue!! You like how they work in Macdonalds? Are you completely stupid?

 

I hate the way you ignore this problem in America and start talking about how good workers are in disgusting fast food chains in various parts of the UK.

so..Foreign workers are pretty and hard working in London? While in the North they are terrible? Nice going....wow, you really are getting to the root of this. It's nothing like what's happening in the US!!

Get a grip mate.

 

(Also, I'm from near Newcastle - lived in London for 4 years and I can tell you that in London "all east european = edible food, pretty staff" is utter bullshit) But IF you were right what would it EVEN MATTER TO THIS THREAD! Nothing.

 

 

Jesus.....is there nobody who can understand and actually care anymore?

 

 

Aren't you supposed to be over in 'Lovely'. Get back there.

 

 

 

And to address this thread.....

There's nothing against mexicans wanting to move to America in my mind. I'm trying to say that they illegal immigration is being used to complete fuck your country up.

 

I give up here...I really do.

MacDonalds = Edible food...

 

are you having a laugh :laugh3:

Wetback Wives

 

Dont worry Cammy, they call themselves that..

 

 

Get this illegal immigration hurts....not just the average american BUT the family's of the illegal immigrants....

 

So whats the point if it only hurts people? when more damage then good is done?

 

Mexican Wives Plead for Husbands to Return to Mexico

http://www.bloggernews.net/14867

 

"TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT - CLOSE THE BORDER SEND OUR MEN HOME TO US, EVEN IF YOU MUST DEPORT THEM (only treat them in a humane manner - please do not hurt them)

The work is in the United States that is why the men left.

Leaving millions of broken families in the villages now our men are running from the police

But now we have organized our village cottage industry around the traditional handcraft jewelry of our region of Mexico.

Our village of Tecalpulco was very successful in the 1980s when our parents were the creators of the abalone shell jewelry

Ours is a beautiful place to live and since we have formed our womens artisans cooperative and begun to have some success our hope is that the Mexican men who have gone to the US return.

PLEASE CLOSE THE BORDER TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION - AFTER ALL, IT IS THE LAW -

READ: MEXICO-USA ILLEGAL MIGRATION NEWS

We dont need anybodys help, we are proud artisans, not anyone can make, the kind of beautiful jewelry we make in our workshops. God will help us to meet the needs of our family

to surmount the great difficulties we have always faced, as Mexican women over the centuries. "

 

looks like illegal immigration just helps a few people while hurting the majority....

 

Millions of kids are growing up without fathers...many more are dropping out of school to take over theif fathers jobs or to leave for american...

 

we can add millions of broken family's in america and other countries because of this issue...from tens of thousands dead, to tens of millions of rapes that tear live apart, to workers having their jobs taken away to millions growing up in broken homes...illegal immigration helping the less fortunate

^ that doesn't even make relevance to my last post?? :lol:

bottom line, illegal immigration hurts more people then it helps thus its a bad thing....if it was the other way around (more people helped then hurt) i'd support it 100%. But i care about the greater good, helping the most people, thus i do not support it.

Illegal immigration hurts non americans

 

http://www.artcamp.com.mx/venga/

 

Since i think cammy deleted my last post on this subject(she just loves free speech) ill post it again

bottom line, illegal immigration hurts more people then it helps thus its a bad thing....if it was the other way around (more people helped then hurt) i'd support it 100%. But i care about the greater good, helping the most people, thus i do not support it.

 

What if it really is the other way around? I doubt you'll still support it like you say.

 

All I can is that if I was an illegal immigrant as well. I would be scared as the government pretty much has their lives in their hands. I wouldn't be killing people and committing crimes because I would be scared to be deported or who knows what they really do to them. They are only trying to find a better life and trying to survive so they would stay low.

 

So all this immigrants killing citizens is just hard to believe. (You'll probably say something like "Well do believe, here are the facts" :laugh3:) although I do agree the whole immigration process is fucked up.

What if it really is the other way around? I doubt you'll still support it like you say.

 

All I can is that if I was an illegal immigrant as well. I would be scared as the government pretty much has their lives in their hands. I wouldn't be killing people and committing crimes because I would be scared to be deported or who knows what they really do to them. They are only trying to find a better life and trying to survive so they would stay low.

 

So all this immigrants killing citizens is just hard to believe. (You'll probably say something like "Well do believe, here are the facts" :laugh3:) although I do agree the whole immigration process is fucked up.

 

Why wouldnt I? if it wasnt a problem it would be a good and needed thing, thus i would support it in a heart beat. I love immigrants...half my friends are from different countries...thats what america is all about, a melting pot of culture and people. I dont want it any other way. A good majority of my friends are from south america..mostly mexico and peru, a few from cuba, but they are all legal, adding to the melting pot, not hurting it and america. i say the more immigrants the better, just more the right way.

 

Like i said, it causes more harm then good. so a few people trying to get a better life is ok, when it harms alot more people? you're saying a small few are more important than the majority? a few people have a better life while lots more have a worse life, is ok? that sick.

 

The numbers dont lie...couple thousanda year killed by illegals, add that up for a few year and you get tens of thousands...add up 1,000,000 rapes a year by illegals and you get millions of lives ruined because a few people wanted a better life....you're saying a small few having a better life is worth alot more having a worse life?

 

it all comes down to more harm then good, more people being hurt then helped....and i dont support that kind of thing.

 

Another thing..so if my life got really bad, i'd have a right to break into your house, live their even when you didnt want me to, then go to you work and take your job, and you'd be ok with that? I promise you, you wouldnt stand for that...but when its not your ass on the line you're ok with it... I'd bet my life that if you were in the shoes of someone who was raped, killed or had a family member or friend raped killed or job taken, you'd be singing a different tune. But when you're not connected to it, its so easy to be all high and mighty.