^^^ Agree. I don't think Cobalt is fighting or angry with life, ahahaha. Cheers. Peace and Rainbows in your heart :heart:

Well as a christian I care about others so when it happened to me I tried to understand it by studying it by going to the library and checking online.

 

my COD username is DJSTYLEZ_CLASSIC..

 

Hope to have yah playing there, and yah can talk about your beliefs while we kill zombies...Much fun.. :) catch yah I'm playing

Why on earth do you think I play CoD? :laugh4: Because I am full of the RAEG?

Why on earth do you think I play CoD? :laugh4: Because I am full of the RAEG?

 

Was it a reply to you..WOW how old are you?

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I like your ideas...

I wasn't going to talk on this subject but I will. It sounds like we are interested.

 

I'll tackle this one first you say

"The idea that evolution has given us the thought that life is not worth living makes no sense whatsoever. How can the idea that we evolved over time be a factor? You mention suicide. First of all believing in evolution has nothing to do with the persons issues."

 

What you believe will frame the way you think about life... For instance a factor in many believers lives is the scriptures referring to hope, like "The Joy of the Lord is your strength" when bad things happen to good people, God says to rejoice because our trials make us stronger..Based apon this real bible faith based Christians will decide to choose life over death..(the bible is clear about suicide, Hell is the only place you can go). We are tested daily but to christians (not muslims) we are encouraged by Christ to endure and overcome.

 

The increase in suicide rates is a clear indication of the teachings of Christ being taken out of schools and replaced in many schools by a sports class, science class or other. There is no faith in schools, there is science..I have nothing against science some of the greatest scientist were people of faith. (Isaac Newton, Nicholas Copernicus, Albert Einstein, Max Planck, William Thomson Kelvin) However because God is taken out of many science teachings, physicists, astrologists and university lecturers are not or are frowned apon if they express their faith or teach anything that is God related in todays generation.

 

How does it frame the mind? A child that doesn't have friends, is picked on at school, parents are splitting could easily after multiple set backs and depressive states choose that enough is enough 'there is no point to living', you put another child in their shoes who has a faith and understands that God loves them unconditionally despite their flaws, problems, cursing, drug abuse..you invest time into a childs life and you see the difference it makes..I came to believe in Christ at the age of 18, as a child my parents invested very little time into my life they had alot of money but I craved attention. I hung on to Christ and began leading other kids to see that God is a loving Father. This idea alone can change the thinking pattern of a childs life for ever.

 

In regards to apes and monkeys dna etc. I'd suggest studying a bit more..I'm not saying you have done this but many people just see a show on tv, or read a book from school and decide yup thats the truth..Investigate it further and you will change your views..I can't go into detail about this because there is way too much involved in the marvel behind the creation of the human mind..Just this alone is magnificent and in itself can blow the theory of "ape to human" out of the water. for instance we are linked dna wise to other animals as well..check it out..I mean why shouldn't we we are living breathing meat however the difference is I have a spirit. I know based on experience..unfortunately I can not give you evidence, you can experience it for yourself though.

 

In regards to your 6days and parting of the sea etc..Its understandable I was at the same place you are at a while ago. Many scientists that were athiests have come to believe in God as well. That is why you should not be closed minded..Don't discredit something without understanding it. Many people think they know the bible based on stories told at pre school or church even but you can't know anything if you have not read the life of Jesus Christ in books of Matthew, Mark, luke and John..So many base their decisions on this but wont take the time which is about 3 weeks to read one book "Matthew". Try and understand it, try your best despite what you've been drilled into believing..

 

In regards to the Vatican, I never listen to them, I am Born Again I follow Jesus Christ as if He walked the planet..I can't talk on their behalf I don't know anything about them..I don't catholicism only that it is heaped in hypocritical dialect and man made laws very little to do with the Bible.

 

Just as Love is a choice hate is a choice. God has given us free will, You can choose to kill someone one day 'hope you don't' but this is a possibility in some cases its 50/50 circumstances can cause you to be frustrated the whole day you have been grinded at work and you just can't take somebody cutting you off on the road or someone swears a you spits on you you hit them and they die..dramatic I know but these are choices we make. I decide at work that if a customer wants to swear about their product I know their upset because their not getting what they paid for..So I don't take it personal. If we truly, free will can be dangerous in the wrong hands, unfortunately this is how it is and thats why we have murderes and thieves etc. If you want to know the Biblical reasons behind freewill read Genesis. If you don't want to know I can't help you..You have to help yourself..I know but it takes understanding, God gives understanding.

 

In regards to what religion we are, I only live by what Jesus says to me, based on meetings with the him you'll be surprised by the belief that He is the only one that connects to the Father, not just that He said "I am the way the truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father except through me" These are His words and by experiencing His presence on a day to day basis I can confirm that this is the truth. You can only experience His presence for yourself..it requires you take time out of your busy schedule..

 

Anyways I hope that I have helped answer some of your questions..Stay skeptical my friend don't lose it but let it fuel you to investigate and search for the truth. The truth is out there and it can be living inside of you.

 

IN REGARDS.

 

 

Hahaha, also, wtf with the suicide comment.

Was it a reply to you..WOW how old are you?

 

I dunno lol, it was right under my post, I know I tend to reply like that without quoting or using "^" to indicate what post I'm replying to.

 

Also, a few clicks and you shall find in regards to that second question!

This thread has issues.

 

 

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No, it's too amusing to poke at them and see their reaction.

Did you know that there is no evidence whatsoever that any kind of animal ever evolved into another kind of animal ever? Ever heard of the missing link? That's what that's referring to.

Of course animals evolved from other kinds of animals. You can just go to a museum look at the fossils and see the similarities between the species. Also it's obvious that evolution exists in the sense that even in our lifetime our body and appearance is constantly evolving being that we look nothing like what we did as a child.

 

Even if there is a missing link between say humans and one form of apes, and we were to find that in between missing link, i'm sure then you'd probably say "well where's the missing link between that in between human/ape and humans"

 

Saying there's no evolution between creatures would be like looking a a horse and carriage from the 1800's and a modern car, and saying that the modern car was not influenced or didn't change over time.

 

Maybe this videos will help a little bit more

 

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Did you know that there is no evidence whatsoever that any kind of animal ever evolved into another kind of animal ever? Ever heard of the missing link? That's what that's referring to.

Nonsense. I have seen aminals evolve in a few generations. I work in a lab and here we see evolution happening. You can come by and I can tell you about our work and show you examples. And once again, scientific papers are full of proof. If you don't read them, well that doesn't mean it's not there (unlike some things I have read in the Bible, trololol).

IN REGARDS.

 

 

Hahaha, also, wtf with the suicide comment.

 

Haha Haaa Yeah what the with the suicide comment... :)

Of course animals evolved from other kinds of animals. You can just go to a museum look at the fossils and see the similarities between the species. Also it's obvious that evolution exists in the sense that even in our lifetime our body and appearance is constantly evolving being that we look nothing like what we did as a child.

 

Even if there is a missing link between say humans and one form of apes, and we were to find that in between missing link, i'm sure then you'd probably say "well where's the missing link between that in between human/ape and humans"

 

Saying there's no evolution between creatures would be like looking a a horse and carriage from the 1800's and a modern car, and saying that the modern car was not influenced or didn't change over time.

 

Maybe this videos will help a little bit more

 

 

I like what you said there about the car, lloking at a horse and carriage and a modern car and saying it was not influenced or didn't change over time...Very good observation...There is a flaw however in this argument, because you are arguing the creation which is a car that man has built and created out of technical deliberation. However evolution between creatures is something of a marvel of God himself, yes we may help in the process of a breed of dog by mating the two and therefore having a certain type or breed of dog but this is not our creative or intelligent thinking that made the dog. You have to appreciate the existence of a creative God in order to see that evolution between species or changes (that sometimes harm) is natural however the evolution from a sheep into a frog or an ape into a man is a totally different argument.

 

Species can evolve to adapt to their surroundings, this is something that God has created within us. God has given us an intellectual mind in order to discover these things. In order for an idea like that of the motor vehicle to arrive there needs to be an idea or creative thought to develop that into a physical form. The idea must come out of thinking, buildings don't just turn up. There is a process, money backs the idea and powerful men implement and arrange the financial sides of developing the construction. The key here is there has to be a reason for the building going up, either to make more money (supermarket or other businesses etc.) Just as there must be a reason for us being on this amazing designed planet, that if you were to investigate, if the earth were a couple metres closer or away from the sun we would not be able to survive. The change in the atmosphere would mean less oxygen could be produced and the many other affects it has like gravity.There has been planning and precise technical thinking involved in the preservation of the human race.

 

All from a creative God

I like that birds are relatives of dinosaurs. /offtopic

Of course animals evolved from other kinds of animals. You can just go to a museum look at the fossils and see the similarities between the species. Also it's obvious that evolution exists in the sense that even in our lifetime our body and appearance is constantly evolving being that we look nothing like what we did as a child.

 

 

Similarities only prove a common designer. They don't prove that one evolved into another. There isn't one intermediary fossil between different kinds of animal in existence because they don't exist. That's the dirty little secret that evolutionists won't tell you.

 

Even if there is a missing link between say humans and one form of apes, and we were to find that in between missing link, i'm sure then you'd probably say "well where's the missing link between that in between human/ape and humans"

 

The missing link isn't merely between apes and man, it's between ANY two kinds of animals. All we see in the fossil record is lateral adaptation, micro evolution within the species. We NEVER see any two species evolving into one another. NEVER. Not once. It's a SHAM. God is real. The God of the bible is God.

 

Saying there's no evolution between creatures would be like looking a a horse and carriage from the 1800's and a modern car, and saying that the modern car was not influenced or didn't change over time.

 

A horse ana carriage aren't biological creatures. They can't mate with other animals and produce offspring. God created man. God created apes.

 

 

 

Maybe this videos will help a little bit more

 

 

Heres a video for you to watch about evolution:

 

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^ almost 2 ahwaz wtf

Yesterday I told my mom that I didn't believe in god just before we left the house to go to church.

 

 

It could have gone a lot worse.

How exactly did it go?

I suggest spamming this thread with useless stuff

Maybe that will keep Frodo away - we shouldn't encourage him any more

 

Yesterday I told my mom that I didn't believe in god just before we left the house to go to church.

 

 

It could have gone a lot worse.

 

How did it go?

 

I still haven't told my parents that I am an atheist (if I did I think they would go mental)

She was first slightly shocked ... which surprised me because I'm quite a cynical person, I thought she would have guessed.

Then she went in to denial and said "I don't care what you say, I know there's something there"

Then upset looking.

Then after church she was like "look how nice we are to each other after church"

 

( I of course laughed and said, oh last week we hated each other cause we never went to mass )

 

And now she wants us to go to church more often.

Yikes. Definitely in denial. Convert her haha.

Arwen isn't out yet? Christ!

She's not that bad. She'll get over it, accept it, whatever.

My grandparents, being brought up in the time and place that they were, are pretty religious.

I guess being brought up in a household like that would affect you.

 

Plus she helps alot with both her own church and my dad's church ( accounts, raising money and other jazz ).

I'm just going against something pretty close to her.

Yeah. Well the best way to go about it is show that you are still a good person without the church.

^ that