haha! GILL! he's got a name like a part of a fish :laugh3:

haha! GILL! he's got a name like a part of a fish :laugh3:

 

I got nuthin' :)

Looks like even some of their own staff couldn't stand him: http://blogs.independent.co.uk/independent/2008/06/mixtape-why-i-d.html

 

Mixtape: Why I don't hate Coldplay

 

 

By Tim Walker

 

 

 

I like Coldplay. I do. I know, I know - very unfashionable, but there it is. I like their music. Always have. In fact, I like them so much that I'm convinced at least half the people who claim not to are lying in order to be cool. And I don't mind Chris Martin either. I mean, I've never met the man, but he's never done anything in public that could explain the rage he seems to inspire in my friends, my colleagues and, it seems, a good portion of the media.

So it was with a kind of resigned weariness that I learned The Independent's esteemed rock critic Andy Gill would be joining the ranks of Coldplay-haters in this morning's paper. This will be another 2,000 words of undeserved bile tossed in the faces of poor Chris and his pals, I thought. And I was right. The commenters have been raging all morning, both for and against the band. I'll gladly be a witness for the defence.

First, Coldplay's music. In the interests of full disclosure, I should mention that I own pretty much all of it - and I paid for it with my hard-earned pennies, not by nicking it from the internet or being sent it by eager PRs with the misguided impression that journalists hold any sway over the Coldplay-loving public.

However, I also have a large collection of perfectly respectable records that Mr Gill and others would, I'm sure, happily spend a few days with. There's plenty of genres in there, and plenty of interesting, envelope-stretching artists (no, not just Radiohead). I like music, honest.

But too often I'll take home a record by a so-called avant-garde act who's been handed five stars by various members of the music press, only to find that, in among all the clattery percussion or the dance crossover pretensions, there's only a couple of tunes fit to grace my iPod.

Sometimes, when I buy a new record, I want to do so safe in the knowledge that I'll get my money's worth in muscular melodies and crashing chord changes - even if it turns out to be just G, C, D. Coldplay have invariably fulfilled that requirement, and I rely on them to do so. They're the best at it, and their continued existence means I needn't trouble myself with lesser bands of a similar persuasion.

Another distinguished rock critic, the late Ian MacDonald, once wrote something along these lines: listeners' tastes are shaped by a heirarchy of three distinct elements - a band's music, a band's lyrics, and a band's image. Even if you're infuriated by his vague lyrics or his sensible attire, only the hardest heart could honestly claim they'd never been moved, even an inch, by one of Mr Martin's melodies.

The lyrics, then. OK, they're hazy. Some of them are downright predictable, and they espouse the sort of simplistic sentiments that evidently make "serious" rock fans cringe. But I'm afraid that's their strength as well as their weakness. You can use Coldplay's songs as a painkiller when you're feeling low, or as a complement to euphoria. I hardly need to present evidence for the breadth of the band's appeal. What did X&Y sell again? Nine million, was it? Ten?

I also want to address the issue of Chris Martin. How can such an inoffensive man make so many people so angry? So he does some charity work. That's, er... a good thing, isn't it? He's a darn sight more bearable than Bono, yet without the pair of them the man in the street might never have heard of Greenpeace or making trade fair.

So he's not Johnny Rotten. I'd prefer, for once, a singer who's honest about being as middle-class as his fans, rather than another of the countless young stars who spend Saturday nights in Camden pretending they've always been into sex, drugs and rock'n'roll, before heading to their parents' place in Hampstead for a Sunday roast.

As to the Gwyneth thing, we all know how easy it can be for a famous couple to fill the limelight by appearing on the red carpet or in Hello! magazine together at every given opportunity. Such couples face a tough job evincing sympathy whenever they feel their privacy has been invaded a little too much.

Chris and Gwyneth, by contrast, go out of their way never to let anyone legitimately call them a "celebrity couple". Chris does all the necessary press for his new album, Gwyneth shows up in a short skirt for the premiere of her new film. They separate their work from their private lives, and instead of respecting them for it, we pour scorn on their choice of baby names. Yes, I know, "Apple" is a bit silly, but she'll probably end up pretty enough to get away with it.

 

Finally, may I point out that, in spite of his professed "hatred" for Coldplay, Gill managed to find it within himself to reward their new album Viva La Vida a reasonably respectable three stars. If you're already a fan, or open-minded enough to be converted, you can translate that into (at least) a healthy four.

 

Posted at 01:23 PM in MixTape |

 

That's fantastic! :D

I was a tad miffed when I read Andy Gills stupid rant, but Tim Walkers response made up for it. Andy can go shove his pompoud head up his arse, thats if it isnt already wedged up there. Tims post summed it all up perfectly!

once again there is not even a connection for the music and getting married or having children.

 

all these are different topics.

 

they shouldn't get linked with each other!

 

because at the end people only will listen to music and no other thing!

To the reviewer:

 

 

^^Yeah what he said, YOU STUPID PATHETIC IGNORANT FUCK!!

Tim Walker you legend. For every critic that writes Andy Gill-esque tosh, there are people like Tim. Notice how Tim's was straight and to the point, hardly used any fancy words or comparisons or anything like, while Gill tries far too hard to get his point across. Who does he think he is, Tolkien?

Tim Walker you legend. For every critic that writes Andy Gill-esque tosh, there are people like Tim. Notice how Tim's was straight and to the point, hardly used any fancy words or comparisons or anything like, while Gill tries far too hard to get his point across. Who does he think he is, Tolkien?

 

Frodo, more like!!:rolleyes:

Frodo, more like!!:rolleyes:

Don't insult Frodo like that. :angry::P He was intelligent, well spoken, and capable of feeling emotions- unlike that guy. (Not to mention in the books he was the one who wrote LotR... so there's really no difference, same question applies.)

I'm not reading it, one thing though: if you hate Coldplay so much, why did you review the album Andy? Hardly a fair assessment is it? ;)

and he's bashing us, coldplayers. This dude is just too stupid. He is not an impartial and serious journalist. That's why I am waiting for the rolling stone review.

I read this in the paper when I got home, and boy did it put me in a bad mood. Not only was it narrow minded and ignorant, it was incredibly frustrating to read as a fan, bias and poorly written. I'm surprised that the indipendant gave the article front page coverage.

I read this in the paper when I got home, and boy did it put me in a bad mood. Not only was it narrow minded and ignorant, it was incredibly frustrating to read as a fan, bias and poorly written. I'm surprised that the indipendant gave the article front page coverage.

 

Doesn't sound too "independent" now, does it??:rolleyes:

this guy actually pissed me off...i left a message on the blog site i wrote

 

To be honest I don’t think Andy Gill has that much of taste in GOOD music. He probably has a number of pop groups like Aqua and S Club 7 on his play list at home.

He also mentioned "I can't seem to find anyone who bought X & Y, or who intends to buy Viva La Vida." obviously he did look carefully...he looked on wikipedia for stats of X&Y he should of looked on sites like the old coldplay forums or coldplaying.com where thousands of people would brought X&Y and are going to buy Viva La Vida and they are also proud to say that the love coldplay and the music the produce

 

I think everybody here should write a message on that blog...show him howmany people around the world like coldplay

this guy actually pissed me off...i left a message on the blog site i wrote

 

To be honest I don’t think Andy Gill has that much of taste in GOOD music. He probably has a number of pop groups like Aqua and S Club 7 on his play list at home.

He also mentioned "I can't seem to find anyone who bought X & Y, or who intends to buy Viva La Vida." obviously he did look carefully...he looked on wikipedia for stats of X&Y he should of looked on sites like the old coldplay forums or coldplaying.com where thousands of people would brought X&Y and are going to buy Viva La Vida and they are also proud to say that the love coldplay and the music the produce

 

I think everybody here should write a message on that blog...show him howmany people around the world like coldplay

 

He isn't worth the effort, tbh.:dozey:

I don't even FEEL like reading an entire page of shit. I mean, how tactless can people get? There's always those out to TRY to ruin other peoples enjoyment.

i cant belive he even questioned why Eno worked with the band

I have to admit its been quite fun reading and responding to some of the comments on the independants message board one twat even said that he and some of his mates made i hate coldplay badges and handed them out to the public to which i said if he;d given one to me i would have given him a jolly good slap. One twat who said he hated coldplay listed in his musical tastes such greats as abba bonnie tyler celinne dion and the bloody scorpians

^^Yeah what he said, YOU STUPID PATHETIC IGNORANT FUCK!!

 

i think he said shut the fuck up.:confused:

I have to admit its been quite fun reading and responding to some of the comments on the independants message board one twat even said that he and some of his mates made i hate coldplay badges and handed them out to the public to which i said if he;d given one to me i would have given him a jolly good slap. One twat who said he hated coldplay listed in his musical tastes such greats as abba bonnie tyler celinne dion and the bloody scorpians

 

That explains everything!!:rolleyes:

All music guide gave 4 stars!!

 

It's the most credible

Tim Walker :thumbsup:

The guy sounds like a pompus jerk. Im a critic for a boring news paper i went uni for years to get this job and im going to rant because a band i dont like is getting somewhere, moan moan moan. Who cares what he thinks? he probably likes shit anyway. Fact is he cant find a reason just picks on Chris martin as most do and writes as if Coldplay is made of Chris martin. Whine about his lyrics, well half the crap these days isnt even lyrics, there lyrics are simple but affective thats always the way its been and and people can relate to them because there focused on human emotions which everyone has.

Honestly these sort of articles bore me i couldnt read the rest. If you dont like them tough shit because your going have to put up with Coldplay for the for seeable future. Once again i think this is a case of i dont like Coldplay because its Coldplay.

All music guide gave 4 stars!!

 

It's the most credible

have you got a link? :)

Plagiarized!!

 

In an interview this week Chris said that they (Coldplay) had plagiarized themselves for their third album. Has Andy Gill taken advice from our outspoken friend?

 

Andy Gill 3 June 2005 - Independent review of X&Y

 

......they wield the same oceanic sense of unease and uplift as Pink Floyd - a clear indication of their business ambitions, even though there's no hint of the Floyd's questing artistic temperament.

 

Tracks such as "Talk", "Fix You" and "A Message" are vaguely similar, songs of solace articulating broad misgivings: "I'm scared about the future and I want to talk to you"; "When you feel so tired and you can't sleep/ Stuck in reverse", etc, resolved in platitudes like "I will try to fix you" and "You don't have to be alone". There's no grappling with the social or political causes of the problems, just a bland emotional poultice.

 

Martin offers a consoling arm round the shoulder and a nice cup of tea.

 

 

Andy Gill 11 June 2008 - Independent article “Why I hate Coldplay”

 

Another obvious comparison would be with Pink Floyd: they evoke much the same oceanic sense of unease and uplift, and employ the same type of widescreen arrangements, though as with their Radiohead influence, there's little hint that Coldplay share the Floyd's questing artistic temperament.

 

..."I'm scared about the future and I want to talk to you", "When you feel so tired and you can't sleep/Stuck in reverse", etc – invariably resolved in mealy-mouthed platitudes like "I will try to fix you" and "You don't have to be alone"

 

There's no real sense of grappling with the social or political causes of the problems, just a bland emotional poultice applied to the wound.

 

Instead, Chris Martin offers a consoling arm around the shoulder and a nice cup of tea.

 

 

Where would we be without electronic file storage and copy and paste?

 

Andy Gill!!! Oh Dear, Oh Dear, Oh Dear!!

 

Pompous, mawkish, and unbearably smug, Andy Gill has once again regaled the music press with the lexical equivalent of a bloated watermelon, argues Coldplay aficionado. And in the process, he's poisoned an entire generation of British music critics.

 

I suppose he has to make his money and generate interest somehow - though he'll probably have to wait at least another 3 years or so to do the same! Have you re-read his article on X&Y from early June 2005? Interestingly he has used some identical phrases - please don't tell me he works to a formula, reusing stock words/phrases (a comment bank perhaps?). And are they really his own words? Perhaps next time he should attempt some originality and creativity by enlisting the help of an Eno-equivalent producer of music journalism. Quote from X&Y Review - Andy Gill - 3 June 2005 “ Where a group like Radiohead seem to bristle at being asked to repeat themselves, Coldplay here show themselves to be almost as one-dimensional as Oasis, plugging away at the same old themes in the same old manner (my emphases).” ..mmmmmmmm!

andy moron gill

 

has any o u guys read andy gills article??? man what a plonker, i was bloody fuming mad so posted him a few choice words of ma own go have a look and give him some intelligent words too, lets all unite together in a coldplay front C'MONNNNNNNNNNNN!!!! Bring it on mr gill u eejit