RICK8 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Who the fuck r you? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Escapist Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Me or Saffire? :escaping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Well there's nothing ethically wrong with looking at things in different ways - but it's when you enforce your illogic using physical coercion, violence, or the threat of violence (extortion), that you run into problems. This is praxeology. Your thoughts are your own - what matters are your actions. So what makes theft by a criminal with a gun different from theft by a government official (taxation)? Nothing, praxeologically speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICK8 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 creator of said thread. muchacho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfit00 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Share Posted September 26, 2009 creator of said thread. muchacho. Indeed, may I help you sir? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Escapist Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Well there's nothing ethically wrong with looking at things in different ways - but it's when you enforce your illogic using physical coercion, violence, or the threat of violence (extortion), that you run into problems. This is praxeology. Your thoughts are your own - what matters are your actions. So what makes theft by a criminal with a gun different from theft by a government official (taxation)? Nothing, praxeologically speaking. I agree. Except the government isn't a single person. They will most likely use it to build public infrastructure and develop laws. It still doesn't change the fact that it is theft but one can hope that in a ideal society, it would go to a worthwhile cause. However, this doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICK8 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Indeed, may I help you sir? I highly doubt that...:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfit00 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Share Posted September 26, 2009 I highly doubt that...:lol: :laugh4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I highly doubt that...:lol: I concur, as you are quite clearly beyond help.:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I agree. Except the government isn't a single person. They will most likely use it to build public infrastructure and develop laws. It still doesn't change the fact that it is theft but one can hope that in a ideal society, it would go to a worthwhile cause. However, this doesn't happen. True, the government is a den of thieves and vipers, many of which are brainwashed into believing they work for the greatest charity of all time. Of course, they're wrong. The theory that you can steal a little from some people in order to improve the lives of others is utilitarian. Even if it were true (which it's not) it's still wrong. So if you tell me, "You must kill one person, in order to save the lives of two people", I would still refuse to kill - the ends do not justify the means, because praxeologically there is no distinction between means and ends. I am not an immoral person for refusing to kill one, in order to save two from accidental or other-inflicted death. Most people don't get this, though, because they aren't taught philosophy correctly. So they go on living their lives believing in such things as moral "grey areas", because it helps the parasites in society to perpetuate this myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICK8 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 How would you know that? I'm not the one spending hours and hours on the internet arguing..:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffire Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I know that because it's based on logical, empirical evidence! Also, arguing (or discussing) philosophy is one of the most rewarding & enriching ways to spend your time, in my view. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Escapist Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Learn to solve a rubiks cube. It is very forfilling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Escapist Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Would you do something illegal to save a life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 ^@Jay: I assume Rick was talking to Mark. Oh and I nearly forgot, I'm healthy. No wheelchair, cancer, birth defects, or mental illness. That's a huge advantage considering how many drugs and medical expenses most people have. At the rate I'm going, though, my body will start to break down eventually... I need to exercise more and keep eating healthy. From what I see from other people health is "underrated", so you make a very good point there. Also, to answer the thread. I am quite successful. Not in all fields but in the ones that I care about. I'm trying to improve something about myself every day, and I can see the results. I usually achieve my goals. Your opinion on yourself is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Escapist Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Get back to the math milica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boreas Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I'm lazy. That explains all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 How would you know that? I'm not the one spending hours and hours on the internet arguing..:lol: In which case it must mean you're spending hours and hours on there talking sh*t (much like Yossarian)!!:laugh3: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Get back to the math milica! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Escapist Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Nvm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I'm doing math problems almost every day. :p edit: this would sound weird if it was directed to the thread question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Plastic Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I've gotta say, I'm pretty successful for my age :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfit00 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Share Posted September 26, 2009 ^ Score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onute Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I analyse and think too much and do too little. I guess thats my problem about being unsuccessful. What the point is in knowing what is luck and success but not putting it into practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldplayisawesome Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I'm lazy. That explains all. this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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