icecoldplay Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 "Life In Technicolor" had a sample "Talk" also made use of a sample. Come on guys...how can you be upset about this? For years Coldplay has been taking conventional (or previously used) melodies and turning them into much better songs. Lack of creativity? Okay, make a better song off a sample -- I dare you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 me, too! thanks to tedwinder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 im not upset...the single is just great ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odvan Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 "Life In Technicolor" had a sample "Talk" also made use of a sample. Come on guys...how can you be upset about this? For years Coldplay has been taking conventional (or previously used) melodies and turning them into much better songs. Lack of creativity? Okay, make a better song off a sample -- I dare you! LiT is a intro. Talk has the same motive but different sound. What f*cking years of borrowing are you talking about? Because 2 song out of 50 has samples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohoo37 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 "Life In Technicolor" had a sample "Talk" also made use of a sample. Come on guys...how can you be upset about this? For years Coldplay has been taking conventional (or previously used) melodies and turning them into much better songs. Lack of creativity? Okay, make a better song off a sample -- I dare you! Neither made up the spine of the song or were the big comeback single but to be honest that's not my only issue with ETIAW. I don't see why if they like a melody or riff - just take that, play around with it and make it their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecoldplay Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 LiT is a intro. Talk has the same motive but different sound. What f*cking years of borrowing are you talking about? Because 2 song out of 50 has samples? They've noted it themselves. They may not directly sample to the point of crediting an artist, but they have definitely been HEAVILY influenced by other songs since day one. Again, they've said it themselves, that they are always taking bits and pieces from other places and making it into their own. It's not plagiarism, it's what true geniuses do -- act like a sponge of sorts and make their final product a combination of their own creativity and all things around them. That's a definition of genius that I have held long before I ever listened to a Coldplay record. And relax! I think we're on the same side, here. Pro-Coldplay, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecoldplay Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Neither made up the spine of the song or were the big comeback single but to be honest that's not my only issue with ETIAW. I don't see why if they like a melody or riff - just take that, play around with it and make it their own. "Talk" was completely built around the lead melody from "Computer Love". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohoo37 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 "Talk" was completely built around the lead melody from "Computer Love". I thought it was just the Riff. Well I never liked that song anyway at least the album version. I liked the leaked version best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lexis Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 So eh, I listened to "I Go To Rio" and I can't seem to find where they took some elements. Can someone point it out in this vid (seconds): [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgq1g-2cQ54]YouTube - Peter Allen - I go to Rio[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohoo37 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 So eh, I listened to "I Go To Rio" and I can't seem to find where they took some elements. Can someone point it out in this vid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earwax ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexis Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earwax ;) Haha, well that's not it. I did listen to the Mystic video, and that similarity is kind of obvious, but I don't get it with I go to rio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanew21 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Haha, well that's not it. I did listen to the Mystic video, and that similarity is kind of obvious, but I don't get it with I go to rio... It's the opening riff. The piano part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djibou Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 ^Yes. They've noted it themselves. They may not directly sample to the point of crediting an artist, but they have definitely been HEAVILY influenced by other songs since day one. Again, they've said it themselves, that they are always taking bits and pieces from other places and making it into their own. It's not plagiarism, it's what true geniuses do -- act like a sponge of sorts and make their final product a combination of their own creativity and all things around them. That's a definition of genius that I have held long before I ever listened to a Coldplay record. And relax! I think we're on the same side, here. Pro-Coldplay, that is. I don't think it's a genius thing to do, I think it takes much more creativity to create something ompletely new that you thought of yourself, but that's my opinion. Also, if you start categorizing people with pro-coldplay and anti-coldplay, you'll start a war. It's not because some people criticize the song that they are anti-Coldplay. "Talk" was completely built around the lead melody from "Computer Love". I thought it was just the Riff. Well I never liked that song anyway at least the album version. I liked the leaked version best. You are right, it is just the riff, the chord progression isn't the same, the melody Chris sings during the verses and the break have nothing to do with Computer Love :nod:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonhorn22 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 There are only so many different rhythms, chord progressions, and melodic lines...etc....pretty soon they'll all be recycled. It's all been done at this point. Hard to be original at this point. What separates them all are the lyrics. ETA: I hadn't heard of "Ritmo de la noche" or "I go to Rio" till I came to this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasoKnight Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I can only laugh at the notion that something "new" can be done. Everything has a predecessor. Every book, every film, every song, every haircut, every decision, every personality. Sometimes the lineage is traceable, sometimes it isn't. But it's always there. Every artist is indebted to other artists, who are indebted to other artists, and on and on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeIsOnYourSide Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I can only laugh at the notion that something "new" can be done. Everything has a predecessor. Every book, every film, every song, every haircut, every decision, every personality. Sometimes the lineage is traceable, sometimes it isn't. But it's always there. Every artist is indebted to other artists, who are indebted to other artists, and on and on and on. this. and can we close this thread now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonhorn22 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I can only laugh at the notion that something "new" can be done. Everything has a predecessor. Every book, every film, every song, every haircut, every decision, every personality. Sometimes the lineage is traceable, sometimes it isn't. But it's always there. Every artist is indebted to other artists, who are indebted to other artists, and on and on and on. Yep. :) It's nice to know that a fellow Arkansan shares my PO\/! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohoo37 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I can only laugh at the notion that something "new" can be done. Everything has a predecessor. Every book, every film, every song, every haircut, every decision, every personality. Sometimes the lineage is traceable, sometimes it isn't. But it's always there. Every artist is indebted to other artists, who are indebted to other artists, and on and on and on. But the new single doesn't try and be fresh or new - it just tries to tick as many boxes as it can to appeal to the mass audience without having the balls to take any risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecoldplay Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 ^Yes. I don't think it's a genius thing to do, I think it takes much more creativity to create something ompletely new that you thought of yourself, but that's my opinion. Also, if you start categorizing people with pro-coldplay and anti-coldplay, you'll start a war. It's not because some people criticize the song that they are anti-Coldplay. You are right, it is just the riff, the chord progression isn't the same, the melody Chris sings during the verses and the break have nothing to do with Computer Love :nod:. I disagree. "Talk" is built around that riff. Of course there will be changes in other aspects of the song. The Computer Love riff is at the heart of the hook, and absolutely an inspiration for other parts of the song. I would be very surprised if the writing of that song did not start with the CL riff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JillyBlue Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 this. and can we close this thread now? This. I just downloaded ETIAW from Amazon and, when I play it in Windows Media Player, the composer shown is Adrienne Anderson. Obviously the composers of "I Go To Rio" are credited along with the band. So no plagiarism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimex11 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 it doesn't matter if is a copy or not....................IT SUCKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technicolor Sparks Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 :lock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohoo37 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 :lock: That icon wouldn't look out of place in a Rihanna video lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuazarSyy27 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Ok, end of. Close the thread now please. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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