Riots on the Streets of UK

[Saffire]

All I see on tv is people saying that they are doing this purely because they hate the Police. I truly do not understand this, they are just doing their job

 

I see this so often.

 

Police are the reason there is violence, poverty, and shortages of goods/services. They prohibit the market's ability to clear.

[Saffire]

WTF? If Twitter gets shut down it's not because the rioters being selfish, it's the government being overly controlling, stupid and moronic. Geez.

 

Exactly. It's like a hostage situation. "Don't piss him off or he'll make our lives even harder!"

 

It's the dream of every fascist to have the citizens blame one another for his oppressive policies.

[Crests]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cbVW_QS2eE&feature=player_embedded]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cbVW_QS2eE&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

 

the horror D:

[Batman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cbVW_QS2eE&feature=player_embedded

 

the horror D:

*GASP*

[Crests]

That's just... too far. ;__;

[anarchy]

WTF? If Twitter gets shut down it's not because the rioters being selfish, it's the government being overly controlling, stupid and moronic. Geez.

Yeah.

 

 

And this isn't Anarchy. It's just thug violence..

[busybeeburns]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYrKfGVOMKM]Facebookers jailed for inciting riots - YouTube[/ame]

[Saffire]

This is why I have zero interest in ever visiting your country.

[busybeeburns]

you prefer to stay in the US and incite riots on Facebook?

[Tash]

This made me smile

[Karencorpse]

Most people int the USA do not understand the UK riots because they can not find a political motive behind this or any other reason. Most of us on in the dark here. They show videos of the riots and ask if you know anyone here, report it.

[Black Rose]

Most people int the USA do not understand the UK riots because they can not find a political motive behind this or any other reason. Most of us on in the dark here. They show videos of the riots and ask if you know anyone here, report it.

 

Some of the time there isn't a motive behind some of the riots, just youths wanting to smash stuff up and steal stuff.

 

A branch of Lidl's was raided, got completely cleared out, total lose was £7.97

[Navegador]

Damn! The riots got to Switzerland!

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkEHQgh135c]London Riots now in Bern / Switzerland - YouTube[/ame]

 

ANARCHY! :rolleyes:

[nancyk58]

Burning cars in Berlin for the fourth night in a row. Maybe inspired by London riots?

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/08/18/germany.burning.cars/index.html

 

More car burnings hit Berlin neighborhoods

By Rick Noack, CNN August 19, 2011 -- Updated 0916 GMT (1716 HKT)

[Karencorpse]

Thanks for the links to the Berlin and Bern riots. I could not find the riot in the Bern video. I don't consider knocking down a trash can a riot.

[Gautama]

Cars have been set on fire in Berlin for a couple of months now. So that's not inspired by the English riots.

[Gautama]

Sorry, I've only now read the article linked ^^ and that's true, it has become more intense the last few days, so there might be something to the theory that some nutters do it for the 'London kick' now too. But it has started in spring this year, the car burning business in Berlin.

[busybeeburns]

Footage of hooded rioters firing shots at police officers and a force helicopter during this month's riots has been released.

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHOqdLj2-xU]Footage shows rioters shooting at police - YouTube[/ame]

[busybeeburns]

 

Manchester riots 'copycat crimes'

 

The August riots probably would not have spread to Manchester if police in London had acted faster, the city's chief constable has told BBC Panorama.

 

Peter Fahy said, with the benefit of hindsight "if London had been under control sooner, we probably would not have faced the problems in Manchester".

 

He added that his force is still tracking down hundreds of suspects from at least 300 crime scenes. When the riots hit London, Manchester sent 100 public order officers to help. Chief Constable Fahy said that after three nights of watching coverage of rioters on the streets of London, the violence and looting spread to his jurisdiction.

 

"We think it happened here because a certain group of people saw what was happening in London and decided that they seemed to be getting away with it."

 

Mr Fahy said that while his own force was short the 100 officers sent to London, he had no regrets about the decision. "We knew what was absolutely critical was that there needed to be control of London. Because that was just creating more and more copycat violence up here."

 

He added that on both the streets of Salford, and then in Manchester city centre, his officers were taken by surprise by the level of organisation among the criminal element. A preliminary report by the Metropolitan Police into its own response to the rioting found that too few officers were deployed onto the streets of London during the first three nights of rioting between 6-8 August.

 

About 3,000 officers were deployed across London on the first night - Saturday - plus 380 public-order officers in Tottenham and the rest of Haringey borough.

 

By Sunday that had risen to nearly 4,300, while about 6,000 were on the streets on Monday. "It soon became clear that even the increase to 6,000 officers was not enough and, as such, the number was increased to 16,000 for Tuesday night," the report stated. The minister responsible for policing and criminal justice, Nick Herbert, said there was a public perception that police at times appeared to be standing back, but were in fact ensuring that it was safe to intervene rather than risk further injury or damage.

 

"I think it is common ground that we want the police and they themselves want to be able to deal with these situations very swiftly and to ensure that there is a rapid response if anything like this happens again."

 

Mr Herbert added that planned budget cutbacks will not be a factor in Greater Manchester Police's ability to tackle future unrest.

 

"There are still going to be something like 6,500 officers in Manchester," he said of the policing levels once the service has dealt with a planned £50m budget cut.

 

In the first eight weeks after the rioting, Manchester police made 232 arrests and by 1 November, more than 350 people had been arrested.

 

About half the adult offenders so far convicted come from the most impoverished neighbourhoods in Greater Manchester and more than a third of those brought before the court were under 17.

 

Of all those charged in relation to the Manchester riots more than 80% already had criminal records.

 

Panorama: Inside the Riots, BBC One, Monday, 14 November at 20:30 GMT and then available in the UK on the BBC iPlayer..

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15681417

[busybeeburns]

Mark Duggan: Mother says he was 'no angel' but should not have been shot

 

 

Mark Duggan: Mother says he was 'no angel' but should not have been shot

 

Mark Duggan "may not have been an angel" but he should not have been shot dead by police, his mother has said.

 

Pamela Duggan sobbed as her statement was read at an inquest into her son's death. Mr Duggan, 29, was shot by police in Tottenham, north London. His death sparked riots in London, which later spread across England.

 

Ms Duggan said his death in 2011 was the "final straw" for his father Bruno, who died from cancer last year. She said her son was "shy" and "beautiful" but his behaviour worsened at secondary school. He moved away to live with an aunt in Manchester but returned to Tottenham when he was 17 a "well balanced" man, the hearing was told.

 

She said: "As a mother you think you're going to go before your child, you never think your child will go before you. "No mother deserves to bury her child. Mark may not have been an angel but he should not have died the way he did."

 

Talking about Mark's father, she said: "When Mark died, Bruno stopped talking and would not say anything to anybody except, 'they killed my son, they killed my boy'. I believe it completely finished Bruno and he didn't have the will or the strength to fight the cancer. He just gave up."

 

Mrs Duggan said she "went into total shock" when she heard the news of his death and was put on anti-depressants and sleeping tablets by her GP. "They have helped a little although I still find myself waiting for Mark to walk through the door," she said in her statement.

 

In the statement she said she hoped the inquest would find out why, if he had done anything wrong, he was killed and not arrested. The hearing at the Royal Courts of Justice in Westminster was told Mr Duggan shot someone in the leg at a party and was involved in supplying firearms.

 

Det Ch Insp Mick Foote told the inquest that police intelligence in June 2011 suggested Mr Duggan was "confrontational and violent" and that he was a senior member of Tottenham gang TMD. During questioning, Mr Foote said the gang moved guns "from address to address", adding: "These people have ready access to firearms."

 

Strategic Firearms Commander Fiona Mallon told the inquest that Taser is used to control violent people and not to deal with threat to life - as was in this case. The operation was assessed to be high-risk for officers but medium risk to Mr Duggan, she added.

 

A day before the fatal shooting, officers were told in a police briefing that Mr Duggan had three guns and he was trying to obtain a fourth, the inquest jury heard. Meanwhile, a court order trying to compel the BBC to reveal the source of video footage following Mr Duggan's shooting had been revoked, the coroner said.

 

Judge Keith Cutler said his team found "other ways" to get the required information without the BBC having to reveal the identity of the person who provided the footage.

 

The inquest continues.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24240168