I think you need to get over it. You're taking everything way too seriously.:dozey:

If someone criticizes your favourite band, football team or anything else you like, it isn't about you personally........................

Anyway, the overriding point is that it should be possible to criticize something without being attacked or mobbed.

That way everything would be much more chilled.;)

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No I'm not taking it too seriously. If you have no knowledge about something you don't have the right to go around insulting it.

NLOTH has been out for a day and U2 already has set-in-stone plans for the next album? Are they really that insecure about how this latest experiemental outing goes over after their five-year gap between albums? Official word or not, I can't help but feel skepticism, and titles and dates will no doubt change constantly.

 

They said a while ago a second album would be coming out, just wasnt until yesterday we found out the name of it.

Magnificent on Letterman

 

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/download/149531-video-u2-magnificent-live-on-late-show-with-david-letterman

The thing I'm starting to find about U2's music is that even though it is very good, there is nothing classic about it.

 

You know when you hear a song and you just KNOW, you just know, that it's going be a classic.

 

It's essentially the difference between having a good time listening to an album right now, and then coming back to the song still in 5 years.

 

I feel there are a few songs on this album I will definitely come back to.

 

Maybe what I'm about to say is bad or not appreciative of NLOTH, but I really cannot wait for Songs of Ascent or whatever they change it to by its release date.

 

The one song I was really looking forward to on this album was Every Breaking Wave based on the Q or NME article talking about it. Not just that, but based on how they're talking about the album it seems more my speed.

 

The songs on this album are just so close to greatness. I guess that's how I'd describe this album. It's like its trying to touch greatness but its coming up a little short. It's one of their best albums top to bottom I think, with a number of solid songs spread throughout, but the songs never break into greatness. Magnificent, MOS and Breathe seem like they could be immortal songs if there was just something more to them or something less. There's always just something that doesn't make them great. Very good, but never great.

 

You know the quality I'm talking about? That "demands-to-be-listened-to" quality. Songs from Coldplay do this to me. Songs from Radiohead. So much of U2's back catalog. These songs do not demand a listen.

I agree with you on that way.. their last 2 or 3 albums have been awesome, but not classic, as joshua, achtung, unforgettable fire etc

yeah i mean. its the same sort of thing. im not sure why it is. i wouldnt say joshua tree or achtung has a great number of classic songs. they have a lot. there's just something about them that stands them apart.

 

i think of this similarly with Coldplay. X & Y has many very good songs, but no classics like Parachutes, A Rush Of Blood To The Head or even Viva la Vida (these songs are going to be classics...maybe not LIJ or Lost! but there are some classic songs).

 

That's the thing. Often times I find I like more songs on one album than another. I technically like more songs on X & Y than Parachutes. But the reality is that I think of Parachutes as a classic not simply because of its age but because there is some quality about it.

at first listen i liked about 1/3-1/2 the songs... now i like pretty much all of them, but i'm still not completely familular w/ the 2nd half of the album (stand up comedy onward)

glad you're liking it!

after hearing so many people expressing discontent.

it's wierd, at first i didn't like "get your boots on" but now i do, i like the rhythm to it. the only songs that i don't care too much for are fez-breathe. the others i like alot (especially the title track, crazy tonight, moment of surrender, magnificent)

In 500 years' time, will we be discussing U2 like Shakespeare is discussed today?:thinking:

it's wierd, at first i didn't like "get your boots on" but now i do, i like the rhythm to it. the only songs that i don't care too much for are fez-breathe. the others i like alot (especially the title track, crazy tonight, moment of surrender, magnificent)

 

Agree with you on Big Boots. It makes a little more sense now.

The ones you mentioned are also my favourites at the moment, with Moment of Surrender taking the cake.

 

In 500 years' time, will we be discussing U2 like Shakespeare is discussed today?:thinking:

 

I do believe so :P

In 500 years' time, will we be discussing U2 like Shakespeare is discussed today?:thinking:

Probably, except students will enjoy it! :lol:

 

Picked up a physical copy today, fulfilling my good deed of giving the band money for something I technically already had (though not legit). After a couple weeks, I've settled on "Breathe" as my favorite song on the album, and I finally know what Brian Eno means when he calls it the "most U2 song". It's got everything - ripping guitar, great vocals, very energetic feel, and a fair amount of innovation. Sums up U2 perfectly.

 

Really, the only two songs I now don't like are "Get on Your Boots" and "Stand Up Comedy". Not only do they feel like inferior versions of a few past U2 songs, but their lyrics are pretty dorky. I'm still trying to warm up to "Cedars of Lebanon", but overall, I consider this a successful experimental effort. Heck, the two songs I mentioned not liking are more traditional, so the beauty of NLOTH lies with what's different.

Where in good heavens did they come up with a name like "U2" anyhow??;)

Big Boots.[/size][/b] It makes a little more sense now.

The ones you mentioned are also my favourites at the moment, with Moment of Surrender taking the cake.

 

 

 

I do believe so :P

 

radiohead slip-up there briggins

In 500 years' time, will we be discussing U2 like Shakespeare is discussed today?:thinking:

 

that's a damn good question. i dunno

anyone going to the good morning america show?

anyone going to the good morning america show?

 

no... but my aunt works where it's gonna be filmed, i kinda want to go but i have classes early

While I've come down from my initial cloud to enthusiasm about the album, I still find a lot to love about it. I've decided that the freshest part of the album is actually the second half, mainly from FEZ-Being Born through Cedars of Lebanon. These songs are not only amazing, but they illustrate a clear change from previous albums. As good as Magnificent/Moment of Surrender/I'll Go Crazy...they come off as dissapointing for so many because there's nothing overwhelmingly "new" about them.

While I love the first, MOS is a bit dry and indulgent, almost too stripped down for it's own good, and IGC...a bit too reminiscent of Walk On and ATYCLB. While it's built like a typical solid, U2 pop song, you can't shake the notion that it is...just another typical, solid, U2 pop song, with dated tricks and few real surprises.

 

That said, Magnificent's guitar arrangement is too catchy to not enjoy, and Unknown Caller has an irresistible hook and a splendid outro. I still can't quite stomach GOYB's, but despite the stereotypically "Bono" lyrics, I must admit the guitar in Stand-up Comedy is outstanding.

 

FEZ/Being Born, may just be my personal fave, not only for the really cool intro, but the stripped down flow of the song with minimal, simple vocals and effective piano melodies over that strong, rythmic guitar. White As Snow needs no description, and Breathe has seriously surprised me as a real quality track, that probably falls closest to the overall sound of the album.

radiohead slip-up there briggins

 

Oh wow, didn't even notice.

Just watched them do If I Don't Go Crazy... on Letterman! It was fantabulous. I was worried about how Bono would sound on this one, but through my tv it sounded great.

Oh wow! I hope it's already on youtube, that's the first time they've played it live in public.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KsFueL-CVk]YouTube - U2 - I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight (Live - Night 3 - Letterman)[/ame]

saw it last night and was actually really impressed!! It's definitely growing on me a bit more thanks to that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I fucking love this album!!! :D

 

One thing though:

 

 

FEZ-Being Born. I like to see it as two tracks in one, FEZ being the ambient intro and a worthless piece of filler (it doesn't even run into Being Born FFS! It's just... there), and Being Born as one of the best things they have done in years, and my favourite from the album, just ahead of Breathe, the lyrics of which are brilliant.

 

I mean:

16th of June, 9:05, door bell rings, man at the door says if I want to stay alive a bit longer, there's three things I need you to know... three! Coming from a long line of traveling sales people on my mother's side, I wasn't gonna buy just anyone's cockatoo, so why would I invite a complete stranger into my home? Would you?

 

That is awesomesauce. Seriously.

 

EDIT: AND THE DRUMS!!!! Fantastic work there Mr Mullen. :D

Man, these new songs are sounding fantastic live. Every time I see a live performance on T.V., I like the record better.

 

And the Letterman performances...WOW!

Man, these new songs are sounding fantastic live. Every time I see a live performance on T.V., I like the record better.

 

And the Letterman performances...WOW!

 

Same here. Its making me very excited for March 9th (announcement of tour)