In fact you didn't know anything OR you defend for the nugatory and injustice

 

Oh but i am....the negatory injustice to israel and the jews by the WORLD and all the racist in the muslim countries.

They were given this land, and there werent many people on the land when they got it.....they have a right to

 

By whom were they given the land, by their tanks and bombs? Come off it!

 

Oh look at that there aren't many people on Alaska, that means I have the right to occupy it? Great...

we cant just give someone land which isnt ours to give. sure there werent many people there, BUT there were people there, and it was their land. We (being the allies post WW2) just basically told them to leave because we were relocating the jews of Europe

and the Israelis counter by taking out their leaders' date=' not their women and children. the Israelis have sacrificed land in the Gaza Strip and West Bank to appease the Palestinians, but when the Palestinians take over the West Bank, they volley RPGs into Jewish settlements in Israel. [/quote']

 

What?? have you been into news reciently?

During the reciently internal conflicts in Palestinian politics, before the recent Palestinian atack there were many non-selective bombings made by Israel in Palestinian territories killing many innocent civilians.

 

Btw, its not like they sacrified land for the Palestinians, those lands were usurped first by Israel!

 

I agree with Brandon313, the conflict is between 2 and its silly to blame only Palestinians for this very terrible conflict.

Yes, your right.

brandon313 told you Israel occupied their land and you say you alright

 

1- Who make AL Qaida

2- Who make and support Janjaweed

3- Who want to conflict with Iran

 

 

America

 

This is very true! its obvious in history that mainly the US. helped to destabilize the whole region (helping Israel to expand and usurp more and more muslim lands, supporting Sadam to invade Iran, also in Afganisthan...) and now there's this terrible conflict and Washington leaders just wash their hands pointing at those who they wanna show as the evil power in all this.

They were given this land' date=' and there werent many people on the land when they got it.....they have a right to it.[/quote']

 

 

Really,ok I will take Nevada Desert and establish a country because there aren't many people live there;)

 

You will make everybody laugh at you

america didnt make al qaida muslim extremist did.....the conlfict with iran is irans fault' date=' for being the BIGGEST state sponser of terrorist and wanting nukes.[/quote']

 

 

I think we discussed it before and all your evidence GONE WITH THE WIND,but mine NOT

This is very true! its obvious in history that mainly the US. helped to destabilize the whole region (helping Israel to expand and usurp more and more muslim lands' date=' supporting Sadam to invade Iran, also in Afganisthan...) and now there's this terrible conflict and Washington leaders just wash their hands pointing at those who they wanna show as the evil power in all this.[/quote']

 

yeah...stopping hitler.....and japan....the soviet union...were the problem all along...good one...

Really,ok I will take Nevada Desert and establish a country because there aren't many people live there;)

 

You will make everybody laugh at you

 

theres a ton more people living in nevada then there was in palestine. so that really does not apply to the argument...

I think we discussed it before and all your evidence GONE WITH THE WIND' date='but mine NOT[/quote']

 

alquiad was not america's doing. it was all muslim extremist who formed it....please know your fucking history.

By whom were they given the land, by their tanks and bombs? Come off it!

 

Oh look at that there aren't many people on Alaska, that means I have the right to occupy it? Great...

 

the UN.....they didnt take israel witha military.....

What?? have you been into news reciently?

During the reciently internal conflicts in Palestinian politics, before the recent Palestinian atack there were many non-selective bombings made by Israel in Palestinian territories killing many innocent civilians.

 

Btw, its not like they sacrified land for the Palestinians, those lands were usurped first by Israel!

 

I agree with Brandon313, the conflict is between 2 and its silly to blame only Palestinians for this very terrible conflict.

 

 

both are to blame..but one side far more then the other. and that side is the palestinians. lets not forget there was NO push for a palestinians homeland until the "evil" jews had a nation...

both are to blame..but one side far more then the other. and that side is the palestinians. lets not forget there was NO push for a palestinians homeland until the "evil" jews had a nation...

 

He... has a point. *craps pants* Wow, never thought I'd say that.

 

I mean this war is going to rage on for probably decades: there's no point in really trying to make peace. I'm all for seeking out the peaceful solution to things... but not in this situation. It's futile, and everyone knows it. The roots of the conflict run back to Biblical times... and people just want to stop the fighting with a pen and a piece of paper? It's futile.

He... has a point. *craps pants* Wow, never thought I'd say that.

 

I mean this war is going to rage on for probably decades: there's no point in really trying to make peace. I'm all for seeking out the peaceful solution to things... but not in this situation. It's futile, and everyone knows it. The roots of the conflict run back to Biblical times... and people just want to stop the fighting with a pen and a piece of paper? It's futile.

 

Peace isnt going to happen. with terrorist on both sides and both sides hating each other so much, its not going to happen. it would be like getting the kkk and the black panther to coexist peacefuly

Really,ok I will take Nevada Desert and establish a country because there aren't many people live there;)

 

You will make everybody laugh at you

 

What are the facts?

 

The legitimacy of Israel. The state of Israel was legally created out of the dismemberment of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I. The area was desolate – desert and swamp – with some small towns and a few inhabitants, many of them nomads. The inhabitants, if they thought about it at all, considered themselves Syrians. The legitimacy of Israel arises from the Balfour Declaration issued by the British, who were given the mandate over the area by the League of Nations. Jews have lived in the country since Biblical times. The Arabs from the surrounding areas were lured to “Palestine” by the industry and prosperity that the Jews brought to the region. Envy, hatred, and religious fanaticism turned the Arabs against the Jews. In bloody outrages, horrible massacres, killings and rapes, the Arabs tried to dislodge the Jews, but were unable to do so.

 

In 1947, the British, having tired of the trouble and the bloodshed, resigned their mandate. That same year, the United Nations mandated partitioning of the territory. The Jews, though disappointed, accepted the partition. The Arabs rejected it out of hand and launched war against Israel. The armies of five Arab countries invaded the nascent state. Following the exhortations of the invaders, the Arab residents got out of the way hoping to return after victory was attained. They could then reclaim their property and that of the Jews, all of whom would have been killed or would have fled. That and that alone is the source of the Arab “refugee problem.”

 

Had the Arabs accepted the UN partition plan, there would now have been a state of “Palestine” for the last 58 years. They might have attained a similar level of prosperity, advancement, and development as Israel, which, small though it is, is today in almost every regard one of the world’s most advanced countries.

Not the only refugees. There is dispute about the number of those refugees. Best estimates are that about 650,000 people fled. But those Arabs are not the only refugees of the 1948 war of Israel’s independence. About 800,000 Jews from Arab countries – from Morocco and Algeria to Iraq and Yemen – fled or were driven out of their home countries, where they had lived for centuries. Most of them left with just the clothes on their backs, leaving land, property, businesses, and wealth created over generations. Most fled to the newly-born Jewish state. They were received with open arms, immediately and fully integrated into Israeli society. They now form about 50 per cent of the population of Israel.

 

 

http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_100.html

HAHA, I love how you us the factsandlogic.org.....

 

you always ramble on about your supposed facts and logic.......now you have somewhere you get all your info from...

 

 

hahaha....great.

The invasion already started, Israel forces are going crazy!! they're even bombing Syria...

 

This is going to be very bad.

theres a ton more people living in nevada then there was in palestine. so that really does not apply to the argument...

 

 

 

ok,but I'm sure that Americans don't live in every square meter so I will take the abondon place and establish my own country

alquiad was not america's doing. it was all muslim extremist who formed it....please know your fucking history.

 

 

At first,I will ignore all your insults to me because my morals didn't allow me to return it to you

 

So,who armed and support AL-Quiada against USSR. Everyone know that America

 

If you denied this fact,it's up to you and you will be the only one in the world who denied that

What are the facts?

 

The legitimacy of Israel. The state of Israel was legally created out of the dismemberment of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I. The area was desolate – desert and swamp – with some small towns and a few inhabitants, many of them nomads. The inhabitants, if they thought about it at all, considered themselves Syrians. The legitimacy of Israel arises from the Balfour Declaration issued by the British, who were given the mandate over the area by the League of Nations. Jews have lived in the country since Biblical times. The Arabs from the surrounding areas were lured to “Palestine” by the industry and prosperity that the Jews brought to the region. Envy, hatred, and religious fanaticism turned the Arabs against the Jews. In bloody outrages, horrible massacres, killings and rapes, the Arabs tried to dislodge the Jews, but were unable to do so.

 

In 1947, the British, having tired of the trouble and the bloodshed, resigned their mandate. That same year, the United Nations mandated partitioning of the territory. The Jews, though disappointed, accepted the partition. The Arabs rejected it out of hand and launched war against Israel. The armies of five Arab countries invaded the nascent state. Following the exhortations of the invaders, the Arab residents got out of the way hoping to return after victory was attained. They could then reclaim their property and that of the Jews, all of whom would have been killed or would have fled. That and that alone is the source of the Arab “refugee problem.”

 

Had the Arabs accepted the UN partition plan, there would now have been a state of “Palestine” for the last 58 years. They might have attained a similar level of prosperity, advancement, and development as Israel, which, small though it is, is today in almost every regard one of the world’s most advanced countries.

Not the only refugees. There is dispute about the number of those refugees. Best estimates are that about 650,000 people fled. But those Arabs are not the only refugees of the 1948 war of Israel’s independence. About 800,000 Jews from Arab countries – from Morocco and Algeria to Iraq and Yemen – fled or were driven out of their home countries, where they had lived for centuries. Most of them left with just the clothes on their backs, leaving land, property, businesses, and wealth created over generations. Most fled to the newly-born Jewish state. They were received with open arms, immediately and fully integrated into Israeli society. They now form about 50 per cent of the population of Israel.

 

 

http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_100.html

 

 

What a lies

 

 

At first, Belfour or Great Britain didn't own Palestine to make a declaration to allow the Jews to take a land of other nation to live in it.

 

If the Jews lived in this country since the Biblical times.It's not mean to take it like Muslims lived more than 1000 years in Spain but it didn't mean to take a place in Spain to establish a countery;)

 

 

About the prosperity of Israel.If you know geography you wiil know that Israel haven't any natural sources anything to make prosperity.

 

But prosperity came frome America to support Israel like the American military support of Israel,because the Jews Taking Over America

 

Arabe didn't accepted the UN partition plan because this is our land and Israel who is bring Jews from all over the world to make a strong country because the lack of population density beside the big of population density of Arab Nation

 

 

I will show you the Dream of Israel

 

The Greater Israel

 

 

In the above context, Greater Israel would comprise, roughly, modern-day Palestine, Jordan and Lebanon,much of Egypt,Syria,Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait as well as parts of Turkey

What a lies

 

 

At first, Belfour or Great Britain didn't own Palestine to make a declaration to allow the Jews to take a land of other nation to live in it.

 

If the Jews lived in this country since the Biblical times.It's not mean to take it like Muslims lived more than 1000 years in Spain but it didn't mean to take a place in Spain to establish a countery;)

 

 

About the prosperity of Israel.If you know geography you wiil know that Israel haven't any natural sourcesor anything to make prosperity.

 

But prosperity came frome America to support Israel like the American military support of Israel,because the Jews Taking Over America

 

Arabe didn't accepted the UN partition plan because this is our land and Israel who is bring Jews from all over the world to make a strong country because the lake of population density beside the big of population density of Arab Nation

 

 

I will show you the Dream of Israel

 

The Greater Israel

In the above context, Greater Israel would comprise, roughly, modern-day Palestine, Jordan and Lebanon,much of Egypt,Syria,Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait as well as parts of Turkey

 

 

 

the truth hurts....but hey they could have had their palestine if they really wanted it...but sadly they dont.

ok' date='but I'm sure that Americans don't live in every square meter so I will take the abondon place and establish my own country[/quote']

 

it woudnt be bad if it was won in a war and done legally......but thats not the case. israel didnt just walk in and claim the land for itself. it was done legally.

At first,I will ignore all your insults to me because my morals didn't allow me to return it to you

 

So,who armed and support AL-Quiada against USSR. Everyone know that America

 

If you denied this fact,it's up to you and you will be the only one in the world who denied that

 

again i ask you to know your history before you speak. al quiada was made up by all muslim extremist. america did not fund or arm them. we armed the taliban against ussr.

 

you are one of the only people in this world to believe otherwise.

He is right about the Taliban and the USSR, the Taliban was a FORMER CIA funded and trained unit used to carry out missions against the Soviet Union during the invasion of Afghanistan in the mid 80's.

 

This subject will never be calm in any form of discussion. Both sides believe their point VERY strongly.

 

In my personal opinion, the only reason the US backs Israel is because people in high places (mostly Jewish people) feel the need to help aide them, hence keeping us in the middle of the fighting.

Almost all extremists hate us because.......why? WE BACK ISRAEL. its so simple, almost ALL of the hatred that fuels the Muslims and terrorists is based in the Israel Palestine situation. If we stopped aiding Israel, i garuntee alot of our problems dealing with Terrorism and Muslim hatred against us would cease. Im not saying all of them, but im just saying, most of the people against us are against us because we are on Israels side....so there you go