July 27, 200620 yr OK I might have used the wrong word slightly... they sinned agaisnt god again and again.. and again... all written in the books espically the book of kings and the books of the prophets that come after those books.. I have read the bible from start to finish each and every chapter in my time... they also killed jesus... but never comes out init ! that seems a bit of a rejection to me.....
July 27, 200620 yr Author "half of that article is lies" , "you don't know what is going on" "ceasefire is playing into the hands of the terrorists" What rubbish, utter horse shit. 1) You can't just SAY that all the news reports of the Isreali soldiers getting taken while in Lebanon isn't true without showing me otherwise. And I don't mean all the bullshit articles from lying corporate media that say it started with Hezbollah. 2) All these 'terrorists' are creations of the globalist western governments....be it from funding or actually taking over part of a country and then calling the resistance to it "terrorist groups". I'm sure Al-CIA-da will have something to say on the matter.....when they recieve the script from the US. 3) All this talk of "typical lefty" is nonsense. I'm not "right wing", I'm not "left wing".....I am for the truth... 4) and anybody talking about anti-semitism in regards to me is an idiot - not even worth the effort.
July 27, 200620 yr Ladies & gentlemen, a reminder that debating the subject is fine, insulting each other is not.
July 27, 200620 yr I still think these threads should be closed as the insults will continue... to many people feel to strongly about this issue... Yes its all very intresting... however in the end it will end in tears... p
July 27, 200620 yr and there was me thinking the members of this board were grown up enough to hold a debate without resorting to personal insults. they usually manage it, so why should this time be any different?
July 27, 200620 yr bart, how dare you say 'the jews killed jesus' for gods sake he was a jew! jews dont kill jews.
July 27, 200620 yr Author No, no you can't close this thread....I'm not harshly insulting people. I'm trying to inform/debate the current situation and what led up to this staged war but others seem to want to argue about religion and hide behind anti-semitism everytime a comment is made against the Isreali (US/UK) government. People seem to be just ignoring the stacks of evidence that shows the initial 'trigger pull' for this conflict.
July 27, 200620 yr Ok my opinion from this thread is that GazeboflossUK and Bart, you too are very pro-arabic and anti-semetic... You just don't know what terror is, I am sure if that stuff happened in your countries you would never say "Hizbolla is not a terror organization", "it is all made up by your governments" WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT??? Do you know that in the past 2 weeks they killed more than 50 Israeli civillians??? And don't write to me that we killed more Lebanese we only defend ourselves!! And another tip: Check your sources again please..urgently!!
July 27, 200620 yr Author Go, go away. Please. I can't stand your "don't say that" "your not right" comments. It's annoying. I would say you should check your sources but no, you just choose to close your eyes and shout "no, no, no...your wrong" and don't supply a source. You believe what you want and I will continue to learn.....and I doubt this will change. I said want to debate but not with you who actually called me "pro-arabic" (what?? Annoying!!) as well as "anti-semitic" again........ Infact, don't really want you to go. I just get really pissed at such oppertunism. I call an anti-semitism name called ban.
July 27, 200620 yr Go, go away. Please. I can't stand your "don't say that" "your not right" comments. It's annoying. I would say you should check your sources but no, you just choose to close your eyes and shout "no, no, no...your wrong" and don't supply a source. You believe what you want and I will continue to learn.....and I doubt this will change. I said want to debate but not with you who actually called me "pro-arabic" (what?? Annoying!!) as well as "anti-semitic" again........ Ok I am sorry.. But I live in this country and please believe me that I know what's going on better than you.. You are saying Hizbolla is not a terror organization.. You said that we entered Lebanon and then they attacked us!! Those are lies!! I can assure you, I can't give you my sources ok? I have friends in the army who were there when it happened!!! So that's why what you say make me furious!! You just don't know, what makes you so sure that what you hear is so true?? I know it from the people who are there!!! and you don't believe me, you think we started attacking for no reason... that's why I call you that, sorry if you see that as an insult
July 27, 200620 yr bart' date=' how dare you say 'the jews killed jesus' for gods sake he was a jew! jews dont kill jews.[/quote'] pretty much the reponse of denial I expected one that has been going on for 2000 years... have u read the first 4 books of the new testiment ?
July 27, 200620 yr Ok my opinion from this thread is that GazeboflossUK and Bart, you too are very pro-arabic and anti-semetic... You just don't know what terror is, I am sure if that stuff happened in your countries you would never say "Hizbolla is not a terror organization", "it is all made up by your governments" WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT??? Do you know that in the past 2 weeks they killed more than 50 Israeli civillians??? And don't write to me that we killed more Lebanese we only defend ourselves!! And another tip: Check your sources again please..urgently!! how many inocent lebonise, palistians syaians, moslems, christains have been killed. I am not anti- jew. I am of mixed heritage, that may be why I see two sides of a story as I have recently added to my signature.... I cant really blame the desperate acts of freedom of what people are doing out there, as its quite aparent they dont have a democratic or even human right to state otherwise... oh yes... my news source is the bbc and the bbc only ! Source BBC. At least 423 Lebanese and 51 Israelis have died in the violence since Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border raid on 12 July. I remember reading in Genisis when Cain killed abel. God said to him if anyone harms you they will be paid back 7 fold. Its plain and simple to see this is whats happening...
July 27, 200620 yr Author Ok I am sorry.. But I live in this country and please believe me that I know what's going on better than you.. You are saying Hizbolla is not a terror organization.. You said that we entered Lebanon and then they attacked us!! Those are lies!! I can assure you, I can't give you my sources ok? I have friends in the army who were there when it happened!!! So that's why what you say make me furious!! You just don't know, what makes you so sure that what you hear is so true?? I know it from the people who are there!!! and you don't believe me, you think we started attacking for no reason... that's why I call you that, sorry if you see that as an insult I'm not accepting that you "know better than me". I know hezbollah are killing aswell but the details about the start of this "war" aren't being told truthfully. This war is part of a greater agenda.
July 27, 200620 yr I'm not accepting that you "know better than me". Where do you live??Where do I live?? You should accept it.. I am telling you I know what I know not only by the media!!! you do... so If you say we started that war before the Hizballa even attacked us...(what I guess we should've done anyways), than your sources are not so true. And even the anywhere I saw the news in the media, it's not as you are saying. Not on CNN or Skynews at least.. So anyway, if you choose not to accept that fact that I know better than you, or just the fact that Hizballa is a terror organization... it's your choise.
July 27, 200620 yr Author Saying that you live there doesn't mean that know what is right. I don't need to live there to read government documents about the need to have "large wars" for example. I think that another "terror attack" will be created by the US/UK and then blamed on Hezbollah or on Al-'CIA'-da and then even more War and needless bloodshed can begin. Sad. Liars.. http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1042.shtml
July 27, 200620 yr Saying that you live there doesn't mean that know what is right. I don't need to live there to read government documents about the need to have "large wars" for example. I think that another "terror attack" will be created by the US/UK and then blamed on Hezbollah or on Al-'CIA'-da and then even more War and needless bloodshed can begin. Sad. Liars.. http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1042.shtml But the problem is, in my opinion, that you just can't see the need for that war. I'll try to explain it to you, but don't get angry on me. We know that Hizballa and the palestinian terror groups don't want us here, and they will do anything so we get away from here. That's why we had to enter that war, to destroy the Hizballa somehow so they will stop shooting more than 100 missles on us everyday!! That's our need to that war, if we could avoid it we would do it in a second. If you have any suggestions, you're welcomed to tell us, but please remember that we cannot(!!!) speak with them or make any agreements because they're not a country or so. If you find a better way say so.. thank you for reading..
July 27, 200620 yr I have a suggestion.... someone like the Russians need to go in and inforce a buffer zone.... however they would be allowed to take direct action against anyone that fights.... I reckon they are the only army capable of not having a conflict of intrest and the brut force to stop this... or someone bigger than us all needs to step in and say I AM IN CHARGE.... !
July 27, 200620 yr this thread has gone tits up!! :rolleyes: --I'm still waiting for the US response to the UN bombing.. question: How does a cease fire play into the terrorists hands??? 2) if a cease fire is so bad, why was Condi trying to work one out between Israel and Lebanon?? 3) The Bible can't be taken for fact literally.... its been translated so many times, and they are only stories written by those who interpreted them differently from one another... right? --I'm speaking factually here.. NOT what one 'believes' is true...... because that plays into faith and belief...AND for the record, I'm a Catholic. Doesn't mean I take everything in the Bible so literally and allow to be spoon fed by the Church either.
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