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Israel / Lebanon / Iran / Syria - Middle East conflict!

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All this crap really gives me a headache. It makes me feel that the end of the World is getting closer.. althought that has been said for years. All these wars never seem to end...ever.

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All this crap really gives me a headache. It makes me feel that the end of the World is getting closer.. althought that has been said for years. All these wars never seem to end...ever.

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Ha, you'd think the people actually fighting the wars would get tired too... :\ Has there ever been one day of complete peace on this planet. Just one? :thinking:

No' date=' my first thought was how typical that was for you. I havent been around for long, but anyone can go read through the forum and see both sides equally attack each other like kids, you are not the only one, but you still do it.[/quote']

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.. seeing as you just got here.. you seem to jump to conclusions rather quickly bout people who have been posting for years here.... :thinking:

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What say you on this UN bombing?

I really try not to....if you were around when I started posting you would see nothing of the sort from me.....I wasn't the one who started the fighting......honestly I try not to bicker....I know it's not productive.

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we all know who the 'kid' is on this forum... :rolleyes: Thank goodness he hasn't weighed in on much lately.

We are getting way off the topic here...

I really try not to....if you were around when I started posting you would see nothing of the sort from me.....I wasn't the one who started the fighting......honestly I try not to bicker....I know it's not productive.

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Once again you dont seem to know much about history.

.. seeing as you just got here.. you seem to jump to conclusions rather quickly bout people who have been posting for years here.... :thinking:

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What say you on this UN bombing?

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I can easily jump to those conclusions because of every one of them is out there to read. All you had to do is do some research and you can see what is going on.

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Israel fucked up big time, they got cocky and messed up. They will pay for their mistake.

we all know who the 'kid' is on this forum... :rolleyes: Thank goodness he hasn't weighed in on much lately.

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You're a funny kid. you try to use your age thing on me, yet you act like a kid. yes we all do know who the kid is on the forum, and she is the one who tries to use age to help her arguement.....you're a real mess.

You're a funny kid. you try to use your age thing on me' date=' yet you act like a kid. yes we all do know who the kid is on the forum, and she is the one who tries to use age to help her arguement.....you're a real mess.[/quote']

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Ahem!

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come on guys! lets leave the personal insults out of this. I know you're all capable of debating this without calling each other names.
No' date=' my first thought was how typical that was for you. I havent been around for long, but anyone can go read through the forum and see both sides equally attack each other like kids, you are not the only one, but you still do it.[/quote']

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He didn't really use to do it before, but he is just annoyed right now because after making these type of threads there's always someone who starts insulting people just because they don't agree with them. It annoys you after a while.. plus, he just appologized for it. So give him a break.

Ha' date=' you'd think the people actually fighting the wars would get tired too... :\ Has there ever been one day of complete peace on this planet. Just one? :thinking:[/quote']

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Hmm that's a good question, but I doubt it.

You're a funny kid. you try to use your age thing on me' date=' yet you act like a kid. yes we all do know who the kid is on the forum, and she is the one who tries to use age to help her arguement.....you're a real mess.[/quote']

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You know.. She never gave out a name.

I wonder about these wars.. If we could feel what the others involved feel, and cared enough not to cause such pain... So many times it looked like the fighting would end in the Holy Lands, and yet, here we go again..

Any end in sight?

It looks like not being careful in how one deals with matters can lead to more conflict in the long run. Being as careful as possible takes away the bad actor's ability to propagandize poor decisions, and most importantly, does a lot less harm to the innocent. Nothing's perfect, no matter how hard we try - but it helps to minimize the hurt to those innocent of wrongdoing.

If you win the will of the people, the bad actors won't be so welcome in familiar turf! A harsh and frequently forgotten lesson from the war in Iraq.

One Jewish writer recently remarked on a PBS TV program that he felt both the State of Israel and Palestine had become the modern analog to the Story of the Biblical Sampson. In trying to win the struggle against the Philistines, Sampson tore down the Temple, killing both Philistine and Jew alike. I hope it doesn't come to that!

Anyhow, looking for solutions to a tough problem, and hoping for the best.

With Sincerity,

-Chuck

pretty much the reponse of denial I expected one that has been going on for 2000 years...

have u read the first 4 books of the new testiment ?

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u saying the jews killed jesus, 2000 years ago- even if it's true, doesnt make it right for ppl to go kill jews by millions, or say they dont deserve a country. It's neither here nor there...

how many inocent lebonise, palistians syaians, moslems, christains have been killed.

I am not anti- jew. I am of mixed heritage, that may be why I see two sides of a story as I have recently added to my signature....

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I cant really blame the desperate acts of freedom of what people are doing out there, as its quite aparent they dont have a democratic or even human right to state otherwise...

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oh yes... my news source is the bbc and the bbc only !

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Source BBC.

At least 423 Lebanese and 51 Israelis have died in the violence since Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border raid on 12 July.

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I remember reading in Genisis when Cain killed abel. God said to him if anyone harms you they will be paid back 7 fold. Its plain and simple to see this is whats happening...

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u make israel sound like such a primitive country that goes by bible laws. We think the suicide bombers are the worst thing that could have ever happenned- just because the same thing happenned in the bible with Simson doesnt mean we accept it, or think it's right. I personally dont believe in the bible. And just becuase Simson happenned, doesnt mean a jew is gonna go on a bus and kill himself and kill arabs with him.

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when israel attacks, it's simply to protect itself. Just because they were stupid enough to attack us when they have no shelter,, doesnt make it our fault

Well, when you deal with people who don't present any kind of decent argument without any supporting evidence and just called me anti-semitic then I kinda get a little bit defensive.....you nazi.

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....see - I bet you felt a little angry when I said "you nazi".......I was just using it as an example of how easy it is to just call people "anti" <whatever>, hiding behind it, without any actual research shown.

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i never said u were antisemetic, I'm just sick of u feeling like you're above everyone and think that governments are trying to hide everything from everyone and everything is just one big propagnda and u think you're the one that knows the truth and everyone else is a fool because they believe what they hear. When in fact, you're the one that seems to be influenced by the media the most. Which is trying to make israel seem like the big monster in all of this

Ha' date=' you'd think the people actually fighting the wars would get tired too... :\ Has there ever been one day of complete peace on this planet. Just one? :thinking:[/quote']

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u think we're not sick of fighting??!

If there's something everyone wants here is peace- no parent wants to see their son go out to war, but sadly we have to defend ourselves.

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i never said u were antisemetic' date=' I'm just sick of u feeling like you're above everyone and think that governments are trying to hide everything from everyone and everything is just one big propagnda and u think you're the one that knows the truth and everyone else is a fool because they believe what they hear. When in fact, you're the one that seems to be influenced by the media the most. Which is trying to make israel seem like the big monster in all of this[/quote']

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They ARE hiding most things and I'm not the only one who knows this, trust me there are millions of people who know.

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I feel sorry for people who haven't yet realised what a terrible situation we are all in......if that makes me sound "above everyone" to you, so be it.....I don't care if it makes me come across this way - I know I'm not like that so I'll keep doing it until more people realise the truth.

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Things I have been writing and reading about for many years have already turned out to be true and have happened already - so I know I'm on the right path.

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Just stop saying that you 'think' I am the only one who knows the truth and go and find it out for yourself. Only by yourself can you really do it.

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Who's to say you are right anymore than I am?? The thing is - I've seen and posted SO much documented evidence to support what I say.....

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Don't argue with me, go away and look for yourself....and not just on this issue.

u make israel sound like such a primitive country that goes by bible laws.

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show me recent prof it hasnt !

well first of all they have elections, unlike saudi arabia or syria. they give full rights to arabs who chose to be citizens, namely israeli arabs. they have only ever killed one person under the law and that was eichmann who was a nazi. but yes... i'm sure israel is living under bible laws... pffft

They ARE hiding most things and I'm not the only one who knows this, trust me there are millions of people who know.

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I feel sorry for people who haven't yet realised what a terrible situation we are all in......if that makes me sound "above everyone" to you, so be it.....I don't care if it makes me come across this way - I know I'm not like that so I'll keep doing it until more people realise the truth.

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Things I have been writing and reading about for many years have already turned out to be true and have happened already - so I know I'm on the right path.

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Just stop saying that you 'think' I am the only one who knows the truth and go and find it out for yourself. Only by yourself can you really do it.

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Who's to say you are right anymore than I am?? The thing is - I've seen and posted SO much documented evidence to support what I say.....

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Don't argue with me, go away and look for yourself....and not just on this issue.

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i'm not trying to argue with u, i know what i think and what i know so nothing u say will make me feel less for my country, it's just that sometimes u can across as having abit of an attitude with the way u say it

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and, i'm not saying that i'm sute 100% that what i think is right. If i did than i wouldnt have been reading all the things that other ppl have to say. So when someone says something that is different from what i feel i dont start calling them fools....

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i'm not trying to argue with u, i know what i think and what i know so nothing u say will make me feel less for my country, it's just that sometimes u can across as having abit of an attitude with the way u say it

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and, i'm not saying that i'm sute 100% that what i think is right. If i did than i wouldnt have been reading all the things that other ppl have to say. So when someone says something that is different from what i feel i dont start calling them fools....

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Yeah...ok...fair enough.

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Just some things I feel 100% on.

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And I'm not trying to make you hate your country.....far from it. It's those in control of it.

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Sorry to 'seem' like a bastard sometimes....but as I say, honestly I'm not.

show me recent prof it hasnt !

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i once talked to a 12 year old girl from England was i was in austria at a ski trip (i was 14), and I told her that i was from israel. And when i was away it snowed in israel- that hardly ever happens. So when it snows we dont go to school and I was bumbed that I was missing jerusalem in the snow because it's really beautiful. Anyways, I told her school was cancelled because transprotasion stops when it snows because the cars arent equipped for snow conditions. And then she asked "Oh, u have cars in Israel?"

I was actually very offended by that, and by what u just said. Israel is a devolped country, is like the western countries. It's very advanced when it comes to all that comes to the democracy and is very different from the countried surrounding her. I think ppl have a picture of biblical times stuck in their head and see israel like this. Get that picture out of your head.

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Again, it seems like you're throwing points out without showing proof of their exsistence. You did the same when u said that Israel is doing to the arabs what the nazis did to the jews in WW2. And when I asked for proof u said "I'll show u when I have time."

Now show me proof that israel is a primitive country that goes by biblical laws.

You know.. She never gave out a name.

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:smug: thank you..... :kiss:

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He didn't really use to do it before' date=' but he is just annoyed right now because after making these type of threads there's always someone who starts insulting people just because they don't agree with them. It annoys you after a while.. plus, he just appologized for it. So give him a break.[/quote']

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Thank you,

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I mean it.

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