why is everyone freaking out over this? You can get a seat but still stand, you dont have to sit the whole time. And just because there isnt a designated standing area doesnt mean Coldplay wont want people standing during the biggest songs.

why is everyone freaking out over this? You can get a seat but still stand, you dont have to sit the whole time. And just because there isnt a designated standing area doesnt mean Coldplay wont want people standing during the biggest songs.

 

the point is if a venue is all-seater, then your ticket will only allow you in to the section your seat is in. if you are way up in the Gods or far back, you are stuck there for the whole concert. its not like you can move and find a better spot to stand.

all-seating creates a have and have nots mentality-the ones who can afford the front seats become priviledged and the majority who get the crap seats feel resentful.

seats are all about crowd control and keeping you in one place...god forbid you should get into the priviledged areas. its wrong it creates a pseudo class system that rock n roll is supposed to rebel against.

:o

but there is a difference between standing at a gig with no designated seating and standing at a shows surrounded by designated seats.

Both in Sweden (Globen) and Oslo (Spectrum) there are standing ticets. But they are way to expensive this year.

the point is if a venue is all-seater, then your ticket will only allow you in to the section your seat is in. if you are way up in the Gods or far back, you are stuck there for the whole concert. its not like you can move and find a better spot to stand.

all-seating creates a have and have nots mentality-the ones who can afford the front seats become priviledged and .

seats are all about crowd control and keeping you in one place...god forbid you should get into the priviledged areas. its wrong it creates a pseudo class system that rock n roll is supposed to rebel against.

 

what a load of shite.

"the majority who get the crap seats feel resentful"

HAHAHAHAHAH

we got great seats in the side tier, looking right across at the stage.

they're a million times better than standing in the Odyssey because you can actually see the band, instead of fighting for your life in a sweaty, rude and pushy crowd; who have ruined my standing gigs on more than one occasion.

what a load of shite.

"the majority who get the crap seats feel resentful"

HAHAHAHAHAH

we got great seats in the side tier, looking right across at the stage.

they're a million times better than standing in the Odyssey because you can actually see the band, instead of fighting for your life in a sweaty, rude and pushy crowd; who have ruined my standing gigs on more than one occasion.

 

Everyone's entitled to their preference. The point is there should at least always be a choice.

There are of course plenty of people who prefer to sit for various reasons, and it's wrong to condemn them for that.;)

what a load of shite.

"the majority who get the crap seats feel resentful"

HAHAHAHAHAH

we got great seats in the side tier, looking right across at the stage.

they're a million times better than standing in the Odyssey because you can actually see the band, instead of fighting for your life in a sweaty, rude and pushy crowd; who have ruined my standing gigs on more than one occasion.

 

 

Sitting at the side is the worst place ever. Why don't people get it through their heads that having a standing area is so much more practical and fairer for coldplay fans. When you buy standing tickets you each get an equal chance of getting to the barrier, depending on if you get their early enough. Having seats at a gig SUCKS, its like going to the cinema. You won't get half the adrenaline as you would do if you were in an excited crowd.

but there is a difference between standing at a gig with no designated seating and standing at a shows surrounded by designated seats.

 

Your right there is a massive difference, and anyone that fials to see that has obviosuly not been to a proper gig before.

Sitting at the side is the worst place ever. Why don't people get it through their heads that having a standing area is so much more practical and fairer for coldplay fans. When you buy standing tickets you each get an equal chance of getting to the barrier, depending on if you get their early enough. Having seats at a gig SUCKS, its like going to the cinema. You won't get half the adrenaline as you would do if you were in an excited crowd.

 

That's true. I have been to a helluva lot of concerts, and the difference in atmosphere between standing and seating areas is incredible.

Jazz, classical or perhaps soul concerts are fine as all-seaters, but definitely not any concert that is going to make people want to dance or jump up and down.

If you try that in the seating areas, the seats tend to get in the way because the rows themselves are so narrow.

Everyone's entitled to their preference. The point is there should at least always be a choice.)

There was a choice. Unfortunately, it wasn't ours, it was made long before we got involced.

 

Sitting at the side is the worst place ever. Why don't people get it through their heads that having a standing area is so much more practical and fairer for coldplay fans.

 

I'm sorry, I didn't realise that all my thoughts and opinions should match up with yours. Obviously I was absent when life's intructions were read out.

 

When you buy standing tickets you each get an equal chance of getting to the barrier, depending on if you get their early enough.

Do you realise this is a contradictory sentence. You're only equal if you turn up before everyone else? So if my train was late, should I then get all ranty about my equal chance to get to the front?

 

Your right there is a massive difference, and anyone that fials to see that has obviosuly not been to a proper gig before.

Ah, now I see. I must bow to the fact that you are the only person to have been to a gig before.

Don't know why there's no standing tickets. If there's only seated tickets when they come here... :veryangry:

 

They want it to be surreal... how can it be when we're sitting? :confused:

the point is if a venue is all-seater, then your ticket will only allow you in to the section your seat is in. if you are way up in the Gods or far back, you are stuck there for the whole concert. its not like you can move and find a better spot to stand.

all-seating creates a have and have nots mentality-the ones who can afford the front seats become priviledged and the majority who get the crap seats feel resentful.

seats are all about crowd control and keeping you in one place...god forbid you should get into the priviledged areas. its wrong it creates a pseudo class system that rock n roll is supposed to rebel against.

 

i agree

that's exactly why i'm rebelling and standing :D

i don't care if it's selfish, or 'wrong' or not complying to this stupid 'sitting' rule.

£42 for a 'sitting' ticket!? pfft it's my £42 quid, i'll do what i want in my 'space'

Is it lonely up there on your pedestal, Beximus? As articulate and wittily sarcastic your response was, the point the other people were making was obvious. There SHOULD have been a possibility to buy standing tickets, certainly for a band such as Coldplay. They're not the heaviest band in the world or anything but, as has been shown by this thread, there are a lot of fans who would like to see them whilst standing up. I know we can all stand by our chairs but it's not the same at all.

 

On another note, if you stop being so pedantic about grammar, the point xXGarfieldXx makes about having an equal chance to stand up is not contradictory at all. He/She is saying that, IF YOU TAKE TIME OUT OF THE EQUATION ("depending on if you're there early enough") you have an equal chance of making it to the front. Fans should have the option of standing for a gig such as this. Tbh, they should have that option for pretty much any gig!

Copy the sig in protest ffs

 

Coldplay are bound to see it, they do check here for feedback

My pedestal is very comfortable, thank you.

 

I don't disagree that people maybe should have the choice. The point is a valid point. People are unhappy that they haven't the option - fair enough. As I said at the beginning of the post, unfortunately, the choice was made by other people not to give us a choice.

 

What I take exception to is people telling me that I should 'get it through my head' that I am wrong because one person has said so. Just because that person thinks that sitting at the side is the worst place ever, doesn't meant that everyone else does, or should believe the same. That's the point of a forum. We discuss. We don't dictate.

 

There are people on this board, unhappy at the situation, who are being a lot more polite and eloquent about it. If people take exception to me, then maybe they should tone down their own responses before I should be expected to do the same.

 

But tell me this. Why SHOULD there have been an option for standing? Not why you want one, but why there should be one.

so going with the theory that standing makes everyone equal debate, do people with disabilities, or those who ended up on crutches the day before the gig have an equal chance to reach the front? having seen the way people sprint for the front once they're in, i'd say no. they may well have been to a 'proper gig' before and may also be a 'hardcore fan', so surely they are also entitled to be near the front

http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/19667.html

Actually, thinking about it. We don't know why it's been done. Surely it would be a good idea to try and find out why it's been done, then you'll all know who to complain to.

http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/19667.html

 

:D signed it!

so going with the theory that standing makes everyone equal debate, do people with disabilities, or those who ended up on crutches the day before the gig have an equal chance to reach the front? having seen the way people sprint for the front once they're in, i'd say no. they may well have been to a 'proper gig' before and may also be a 'hardcore fan', so surely they are also entitled to be near the front

 

I think you are kinda deflecting the underlying issue under the cover of disabilities. A disabled person will still have to be restricted to a designated disability viewing area due to fire regulations. In the event of a evacuation, wheelchair bound patrons have to assited by venue staff or their helpers. Some venues require you to read the evacuation notices to be able to attend. So a disabled person in an all-seater arena will still be restricted to disabled viewing areas-they still cannot get front row because their is no wheelchair escape route in arenas from a floor area.

The main problem with all-seater venues in the US is that the premium seats now end up getting scalped. They recently auctioned off the premium seats for coldplay through ticketmaster. The best seats went for $750 each. With the comp/sponsorship system in the US venues, there was no chance for the ordinary fan to buy 'premium' seats on general sale or at face value.

In my experience of getting a ticket for Coldplay in Las Vegas(which is all-seater), I had to buy/swop tickets till I got to Floor D-still 20 rows back. Fortunately, I had a client who worked for MGM who got me Front Row seats and in return I paid face value and did this persons taxes for free-which if I had charged him would have been my standard hourly rate of $200. So it was only through connections that I have great tickets. I could easily sell these for $1,000 each. This is the standard reality of all-seater venues in the US. The best seats are gobbled up by corporate sponsors, touts and punted out to the highest bidders through auctions or brokers. This is not fair distribution and equal access whether you are disabled or not.

i just read the petition and this bit stuck out the most to me ...

 

We believe that the atmosphere and general ambience of gigs are spoiled by the restrictive, formal notion of seating and desire the ability to stand when watching the band perform.

 

just because you have bought a seat doesnt mean you have to sit , ( i had this arguement with a women at a concert on wednesday , i informed her that i didn't pay £60 to see bruce springsteen and i sit the whole concert , where's the fun in that? ) the seat just gives you reserved standing space! which i see only as a good thing. But if i'm being honest i think with there being no standing areas i think the concert will be much more of a show than the previous tours , so be prepared to be amazed.

i just read the petition and this bit stuck out the most to me ...

 

We believe that the atmosphere and general ambience of gigs are spoiled by the restrictive, formal notion of seating and desire the ability to stand when watching the band perform.

 

just because you have bought a seat doesnt mean you have to sit , ( i had this arguement with a women at a concert on wednesday , i informed her that i didn't pay £60 to see bruce springsteen and i sit the whole concert , where's the fun in that? ) the seat just gives you reserved standing space! which i see only as a good thing. But if i'm being honest i think with there being no standing areas i think the concert will be much more of a show than the previous tours , so be prepared to be amazed.

 

I agree with you here.

I've been to standing gigs many times, Manic Street Preachers, Chili Peppers, U2, Feeder, Muse, Coldplay etc to name a few, and after discussing this topic with my brother, who is more of an Iron Maiden/Metallica etc. fan (lol), he says he's never been to a standing gig before but to him it sounds like we're going to me more entertained than the previous shows and he doesn't see why there should be such a problem with it for a Coldplay gig - last time I checked Chris Martin wasn't into crowd surfing.

Coldplay started out in small venues with seating.

It should still be all about the music :cool:

I think you are kinda deflecting the underlying issue under the cover of disabilities. A disabled person will still have to be restricted to a designated disability viewing area due to fire regulations. In the event of a evacuation, wheelchair bound patrons have to assited by venue staff or their helpers. Some venues require you to read the evacuation notices to be able to attend. So a disabled person in an all-seater arena will still be restricted to disabled viewing areas-they still cannot get front row because their is no wheelchair escape route in arenas from a floor area.

The main problem with all-seater venues in the US is that the premium seats now end up getting scalped. They recently auctioned off the premium seats for coldplay through ticketmaster. The best seats went for $750 each. With the comp/sponsorship system in the US venues, there was no chance for the ordinary fan to buy 'premium' seats on general sale or at face value.

In my experience of getting a ticket for Coldplay in Las Vegas(which is all-seater), I had to buy/swop tickets till I got to Floor D-still 20 rows back. Fortunately, I had a client who worked for MGM who got me Front Row seats and in return I paid face value and did this persons taxes for free-which if I had charged him would have been my standard hourly rate of $200. So it was only through connections that I have great tickets. I could easily sell these for $1,000 each. This is the standard reality of all-seater venues in the US. The best seats are gobbled up by corporate sponsors, touts and punted out to the highest bidders through auctions or brokers. This is not fair distribution and equal access whether you are disabled or not.

 

disability doesn't always mean you're in a wheelchair. there are plenty of disabilities that mean you could quite happily have a space front row but wouldn't be able to participate in the rush to the barrier if standing.

 

and the second part of your comment is a different issue. its not a debate between seating and standing, its a debate about the distribution of tickets. the uk authorities are already looking at ways to try and stop the touts, but we also need them to be looking at the whole 'corporate' side of things. the 'corporate' thing is a problem across all events not just concerts

lol Beximus, sorry if it sounded like I was being a really preachy bastard with the pedestal comment: I assumed due to your picture of Peter Griffin you'd get the Family Guy reference! Oh well.

 

I think their SHOULD be an option for the exact reason you seem to be querying: people DO want the option! Surely the point of a gig is to showcase the band's songs live to entertain the people? Before you say this is obviously possible with a seating gig (was Pink Floyd's "Pulse" seated? I think so, anyone confirm it?) there are, as has been shown by the reaction on this and other coldplay forums, many people who would derive MORE ENJOYMENT from the gig if they had the possibility of standing up and bouncing around. Again, I know some people will say that you can of course stand up next to your seat, and believe me I will be, but as far as I am concerned, it's just not the same. The option should have been there exactly BECAUSE I (and others) want it there. A tour should be for the fans.

 

A last note: this is my opinion; up for discussion, not obeyance! lol