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The Official Club Football 2014-2015 thread

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Santon seems like he could be a pretty good player too...

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Ryan Taylor is a committed defender, he can play left and David Santon (Who is the future by the way) can do either side.

Ryan Taylor is a committed defender, he can play left and David Santon (Who is the future by the way) can do either side.

 

Yeah, he will definitely turn into a good signing from Inter!

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Suarez was handed an eight-match ban for racially abusing Evra

 

Football Association report says Luis Suarez evidence 'unreliable'

 

Full 115 page report: http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2011/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Disciplinary/Written%20reasons/FA%20v%20Suarez%20Written%20Reasons%20of%20Regulatory%20Commission.ashx

 

Luis Suarez gave "unreliable" evidence to the body that was investigating claims he racially abused Patrice Evra, according to a report published by the Football Association. Liverpool's Suarez was given an eight-match ban and a £40,000 fine after he clashed with Manchester United's Evra.

 

The report says Suarez has "damaged the image of English football around the world". Two similar offences in future could lead to "a permanent suspension". The incident happened during the 1-1 draw at Anfield on 15 October. The report states that, after being tackled by the Uruguayan, Evra asked Suarez why he had kicked him, to which the forward replied in Spanish: "Because you are black."

 

When Evra challenged him to repeat the answer and said he would "punch him", Suarez said: "I don't speak to blacks."

 

Suarez is said to have used the term "negro" seven times in around two minutes. In giving the reasons for the length of the ban, the report said: "Given the number of times that Mr Suarez used the word 'negro', his conduct is significantly more serious than a one-off use of a racially offensive term and amounts to an aggravating factor."

 

The FA and Liverpool were given the findings on Friday by the Independent Regulatory Commission. Both parties have the right to an appeal and must reply by 13 January. The 115-page document details the conversation between the two players. The report concludes: "Mr Evra was a credible witness. He gave his evidence in a calm, composed and clear way. "It was, for the most part, consistent, although both he and Mr Suarez were understandably unable to remember every detail of the exchanges between them.

 

"Mr Suarez's evidence was unreliable in relation to matters of critical importance. It was, in part, inconsistent with the evidence, especially the video footage. For example, Mr Suarez said that he pinched Mr Evra's skin in an attempt to defuse the situation. He also said that his use of the word 'negro' to address Mr Evra was conciliatory and friendly. We rejected that evidence. To describe his own behaviour in that way was unsustainable and simply incredible given that the players were engaged in an acrimonious argument. That this was put forward by Mr Suarez was surprising and seriously undermined the reliability of his evidence on other matters. There were also inconsistencies between his accounts given at different times as to what happened."

 

Suarez was found guilty on the "balance of probability" - a lower standard than the criminal standard of "beyond all reasonable doubt". According to the report, Evra admitted that he begun the exchange with Suarez by referring to the Uruguayan's sister in Spanish. The report added: "After the referee Andre Marriner separated them, Mr Suarez said that he turned to Mr Evra and said, 'Por que, negro?'

 

"He [suarez] said that he used the word 'negro' at this point in the way that he did when he was growing up in Uruguay, that is as a friendly form of address to people seen as black or brown-skinned or even just black-haired. "He [suarez] said that he used it in the same way that he did when he spoke to Glen Johnson, the Liverpool player. "He [suarez] said in no way was the use of the word 'negro' intended to be offensive or to be racially offensive. It was intended as an attempt at conciliation."

 

The entire conversation took place in Spanish and linguistic experts Professor Peter Wade and Dr James Scorer helped the panel with the meaning of the phrases. The commission added: "In our judgment, Mr Suarez's use of the term [negro] was not intended as an attempt at conciliation or to establish rapport; neither was it meant in a conciliatory and friendly way."

 

In the report, Suarez claimed: "I would refer to Glen Johnson as 'negro' in the same way that I might refer to Dirk Kuyt as 'Blondie' - because he has blond hair, or Andy Carroll as 'Grandote' - 'Big Man' - because he is very tall. "Where I come from it is normal to refer to people in this way by reference to what they look like. There is no aggression in referring to somebody in this way and there is certainly no racial connotation."

 

After the match Evra and United manager Sir Alex Ferguson both spoke to the referee about the incident, while Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish remarked to referee Marriner in reference to Evra, "Hasn't he done this before?"

 

Despite the punishment, the commission conceded: "This case is not about whether Mr Suarez is in fact a racist. Indeed, the commission will no doubt conclude that there are some indications that he is not."

 

Suarez's defence was that he had been called "South American" in a derogatory way by Evra. But the commission added: "We found that Mr Evra did not use the words 'South American' when speaking to Mr Suarez."

 

Evra, Ryan Giggs, Kuyt, Liverpool's director of football Damien Comolli and Dalglish all gave evidence at the hearing. After the initial ban was announced on 21 December, Liverpool's players wore T-shirts to support the Uruguayan while warming up for their match against Wigan. A day earlier the Anfield club released a statement saying they were "very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him".

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16375963.stm

I'm sorry but since when has Evra ever been proved to be 'credible'. I think he is a little shit and wouldnt trust a word he says. I'm think Suarez has a point, whether he intended it affectionately we'll never know but I still dont understand how the FA can 100% prove it either way. 8 games for something that is basically Suarez's word against Evra's is total madness. Did Giggs say he heard Suarez say it? If he didnt then the FA dont know anymore about it than all of us do!!

40 seconds in, whack!

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AryjEh6qPlY]Weymouth 3 v 1 St Albans City, Evo-Stik League Southern Premier Division 31st December 2011 - YouTube[/ame]

Mr Suarez said that he pinched Mr Evra's skin in an attempt to defuse the situation.
since when has this ever worked? :lol:

WE ARE SO FECKING MINTED... DAY 1

The FA had 2 weeks to hand in the paperwork after making their "decision" and normally they would do that over any other incident instantly, but they still haven't and I think that period is up soon. What I'm saying is that they don't have conclusive evidence and nothing will happen.

 

we did not lose at home in 2011

 

WE ARE SO FECKING MINTED... DAY 1

 

Don't you ever learn.

 

Bart on behalf of everyone can you shut the fuck up.
WE ARE SO FECKING MINTED... DAY 1
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Sunderland 1 - 0 Man City

 

Ji Dong-won's injury-time winner earned Sunderland a superb victory over Premier League leaders Manchester City.

 

City were aiming to capitalise on Manchester United's loss to Blackburn, but came up against a determined display by Martin O'Neill's side.

 

Nicklas Bendtner and Stephane Sessegnon were denied a goal either side of the break, with Edin Dzeko and Micah Richards both hitting the woodwork.

 

But with the last kick of the game, Ji rounded Joe Hart to win it.

 

It was a breathless end to a pulsating second half as the Korean substitute latched onto Sessegnon's through ball following an isolated counter-attack, before calmly finishing.

 

And it was a rich reward for a performance which would leave defensive coaches drooling such was their energy all over the pitch and their steel at the back.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16328586.stm

Why hasn't Daryl mentioned that? He's clearly one of those arsehole fans who boast about their club all the time and then keep their head down when it doesn't go right.

I wonder what days 2, 3 and 4 of 2012 will bring, some juicy games coming up

 

the fixture pile up is crazy

Cant wait til Tuesday. We've got City!! It's getting really tight up there now!

WE ARE SO FECKING MINTED... DAY 1

 

Good way to kick of 2012 :P

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Gary Ablett, former Liverpool & Everton defender, dies at 46

 

Gary Ablett, the only player to win the FA Cup with Liverpool and Everton, has died at the age of 46 following a battle against non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.

 

Ablett made more than 100 appearances for both Merseyside clubs and Birmingham. He also managed Stockport.

 

"Respected throughout the game by players, coaches and managers alike Gary will be sadly missed," the League Managers' Association said.

 

"Our thoughts and condolences are with Gary's wife Jacqueline and children."

 

Ablett made his Liverpool debut in December 1986 and helped the Reds win the League title in 1988 and 1990 and the FA Cup in 1989.

 

He was sold to arch-rivals Everton for £750,000 in January 1992 and went on to lift the FA Cup with them in 1995.

 

After a loan spell at Sheffield United, he joined Birmingham in 1996 and went on to make 104 appearances there.

 

After short spells at Wycombe and Blackpool, Ablett finished his playing career at Long Island Rough Riders in the American A-League in 2001.

 

In 2002, he moved into coaching, working with Everton's youth academy until 2006 when he took over as Liverpool reserve team coach.

 

He became Stockport manager in July 2009 and steered the club through a difficult season in which they were in administration and were relegated to League Two.

 

He left the club in June 2010 when the 2015 Group took ownership of the club.

 

Ablett had been fighting non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a form of blood cancer, for 16 months.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16383027.stm

Apparently these are the 'strains' that forced Rooney out of the side against Blackburn!

 

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Such a shame about Gary Ablett. So young and he had 3 small children, tragic.

Today's games:

 

Aston Villa v Swansea

Blackburn v Stoke

QPR v Norwich

Wolves v Chelsea

Fulham v Arsenal (5.30)

Today's games:

 

Aston Villa v Swansea

Blackburn v Stoke

QPR v Norwich

Wolves v Chelsea

Fulham v Arsenal (5.30)

Apparently these are the 'strains' that forced Rooney out of the side against Blackburn!

 

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