Which do you think was a better society, which would you rather live in, etc etc etc.

 

This is a serious question. Please no WAAAUYYYYY SPARRRTA AWSUMMM I SAW A MOVIE BOUT THEM ONCE!!111! comments and all that crap.

 

This could be really interesting if anyone gives a shit about it. Or that's what I was thinking.

Athens. More intelectual.

That stupid movie made me hate that damn actor and Sparta.

THIS. IS. SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

 

I'd go with Athens.

Sparta was a bunch of cool warrior people, but just that.

So Athens

obviously Athens. Being a spartan is slavery and labor for life if you aren't thrown off a cliff is a child, not to mention the horrible food. Whereas it took until the renaissance for technology to reach the way things were in ancient Athens.

Yeah and xbox live rules

Athens!

uh usually I think if it's an intellectual discussion or whatever you're supposed to say why you think what you think :P

 

I hope you all realize Athens was not really ruled by the people, too? The aristocracy ruled it... just like in basically every society ever. Almost none of the lower class took part in Athenian meetings (although they technically could). No women could talk in it and neither could slaves, or anything like that.

 

Sparta claimed to attempt to treat everyone fairly and gave everyone land etc, but banished arts and trained almost all its boys for war.

 

So it's the democracy (or illusion of it) vs. communism thing again, I guess. Interesting it started so early. I suppose.

I think Politics are for retards, no offense there. But seriously, no one should tell everyone else what to do.

hmm Athens!!!

In Greece western civilization was born. LOlz me speaks like Yoda.

uh usually I think if it's an intellectual discussion or whatever you're supposed to say why you think what you think :P

 

I hope you all realize Athens was not really ruled by the people, too? The aristocracy ruled it... just like in basically every society ever. Almost none of the lower class took part in Athenian meetings (although they technically could). No women could talk in it and neither could slaves, or anything like that.

 

Sparta claimed to attempt to treat everyone fairly and gave everyone land etc, but banished arts and trained almost all its boys for war.

 

So it's the democracy (or illusion of it) vs. communism thing again, I guess. Interesting it started so early. I suppose.

 

I was waiting for someone to claim how awesome the politics were there so I could bash them.

 

I think Politics are for retards, no offense there. But seriously, no one should tell everyone else what to do.

 

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Politics is everything

I was waiting for someone to claim how awesome the politics were there so I could bash them.

 

 

 

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hahaha, sorry. :P

 

I mean the politics sound WHEEE THAT'S JIM-DANDY at first but then you realize nobody actually followed them, a lot of it was just philosophical shit invented by aristocrats with too much time on their hands (which were frequently very far up their asses anyway.)

Women and slaves excluded, at one point Athens was a truer democracy than today's governments. People would gather, and the most amount of hands won. It was a whole lot fairer and more modern than any society up until that date, while in Sparta you had no freedoms whatsoever.

Politics is everything

 

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Everyone around me thinks 300 is the greatest movie ever, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that hated it... even if Gerard Butler is a sexy lil' thing :wink3:

Politics is everything

 

Nah, homeostasis is everything.

Politics is just an immortal virus.

my posts always have the worst timing

It's just like water, you can't live without it, around it all kinds of civilization grows, despite you don't like it, there will always be someone powerful running everything, human kind is not advanced enough to get rid of leaders (and doubt ever will)

 

 

 

 

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And I HATED 300, one of the greatest epics in human history reduced to shit

 

 

And I HATED 300, one of the greatest epics in human history reduced to shit

 

Yea I hated all the n00bs who acted like they knew everything about Sparta.

 

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Both societies had their advantages and disadvantages. For a woman, neither society really would have been the idea place but that was how it wa during those times. Athens was home to the "idea" of democracy though it did not practice it. However, their contributions to art and philosophy is undeniable. Sparta was a very strong society and could hold its on, but was lacking on other parts like family (boys removed to train for the military). Of course, Athens was not the greatest on the family idea either but not as bad as Sparta. So, it really is a toss-up between the two.

 

Personally, I would rather live at Delphi. LOL!!

Yes I'm a nerd.

Moreover I hated morons saying Sparta was cool, I mean come on, have they ever been in Turkey to say so?

Athens.

Women and slaves excluded, at one point Athens was a truer democracy than today's governments. People would gather, and the most amount of hands won. It was a whole lot fairer and more modern than any society up until that date, while in Sparta you had no freedoms whatsoever.

 

+1

 

I would rather live in Athens because I would have been killed as a baby if I was born in Sparta.