Crests Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 derp I meant to ask how far Jordan was hahaha why did I put Cairo? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck kottke Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 307 miles or 494KM, that is from Amman Jordan to Cairo Egypt. I think Mubarak is gone already, just clinging to his last moments in power; This revolution is truly a sea-change in the world, and I hope that whoever becomes Egypt's next president, that they have the fortitude to throw off the yolk of U.S. corporate dominance, and get a fair deal economically for all citizens of Egypt. But the future is what the citizens of Egypt forge from the metal in the crucible of revolution right now. Viva La Revolution! :biker::army: In Solidarity, Chuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaths_friend Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 was watching bbc world news earlier today and they were interviewing some men who are leading a group that is against both Mubarak and El Baradei instead they want Egypt to become a fully fledged Islamic State. not sure if that is the ideal resolution to this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceader'schild Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 was watching bbc world news earlier today and they were interviewing some men who are leading a group that is against both Mubarak and El Baradei instead they want Egypt to become a fully fledged Islamic State. not sure if that is the ideal resolution to this problem. You're right this would cause a lot more trouble, especially with Israel and i can't imagine the effects it would have on rest of the middle east; we have enough problems with Israel as it is:wreck: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indanomati Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 ^It would pretty awful if it happened, I agree. But well I still think they're a very small percent of the people,. And I doubt the people would accept if it happened. In the long run, me. Ah, well, Ok then. derp I meant to ask how far Jordan was hahaha why did I put Cairo? xD 307 miles or 494KM, that is from Amman Jordan to Cairo Egypt. I think Mubarak is gone already, just clinging to his last moments in power; This revolution is truly a sea-change in the world, and I hope that whoever becomes Egypt's next president, that they have the fortitude to throw off the yolk of U.S. corporate dominance, and get a fair deal economically for all citizens of Egypt. But the future is what the citizens of Egypt forge from the metal in the crucible of revolution right now. Viva La Revolution! :biker::army: In Solidarity, Chuck. Think he answered it there for you Tammi hehe. And I pretty much agree with you on everything. Great post! From yesterday's protesters: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtLJpzUp2Z8&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Interview with anti-government protester at Tahir Square[/ame] I love the cat :awesome: <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceader'schild Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 ^It would pretty awful if it happened, I agree. But well I still think they're a very small percent of the people,. And I doubt the people would accept if it happened. I hope you're right:\ but still there's a chance, Hezbollah are the minority in Lebanon but they were able to take over the government last week, hopefully the Egyptian people will be stronger and won't rest until they get a real democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingmuffin Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I know someone who used ot lvie in egypt. she has been really worried about her freinds over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaths_friend Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 i hope the Pro-Mubarak protesters don't become too involved in the events that are unfolding. they need to accept that a large majority of their country want a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technicolor Sparks Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 A former teacher of mine and an old friend I went to elementary school with were in Egypt teaching English for the year. Luckily they were able to get on the first Canadian flight out of Egypt and are arriving home tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan13 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I think somebody forgot to tell Anderson Cooper that Americans should get out of Egypt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaths_friend Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 I think somebody forgot to tell Anderson Cooper that Americans should get out of Egypt. please explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Plastic Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Thanks for this thread. The NZ media aren't covering it very well. All they seem to care about is getting some NZ tourists out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck kottke Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I watch LinkTV, FreeSpeechTV, and others here through satellite TV = wider views on the world @ Large (or check it out on the web: Connecting You to the World | Link TV Thinking about music videos from North African Countries, I remembered U2's Moroccan filming of Magnificent! [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tDEPeySqHU&feature=related]YouTube - U2 - Magnificent - Vídeo Clipe[/ame] Keep the pressure up in Egypt for real Democracy!!! :egypt::egypt::egypt::egypt::egypt::egypt::egypt::egypt::egypt::egypt::egypt::egypt: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaths_friend Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Thanks for this thread. The NZ media aren't covering it very well. All they seem to care about is getting some NZ tourists out of there. same deal with aus. which is why im glad i have bbc world news and cnn at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaths_friend Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 exactly what i was fearing, has happened. the pro mubarak protesters have stepped up and clashed with the anti government protesters. not good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yup, saw the anti-government protesters running after the pro-Mubarak ones on TV about an hour ago. Violence abounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningmonk Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 The pro-Mubarak demonstrators are mostly made up of the vile, corrupt, murderous security forces. They're taking over some army vehicles. THIS IS ALL PART OF THE GOVERNMENT! They're trying to silence us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Good to see you've got some internet service there burningmonk! Some reports have been coming out saying the same thing. Thanks for the message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningmonk Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Internet was restored today. Probably to show that everything is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxKels Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Good luck and God's blessings on you....stay safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivet Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Good to hear that the service has been restored, hopefully everything calms down soon :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Just read a report of pro-government supporters clashing with the anti-government protesters. According to Al Jazeera, pro-Mubarak forces have clashed with the revolutionaries, in a sign that the "counter-revolution" has begun, and an Al Arabiya reporter has been stabbed by those who prefer Mubarak. It also appears that the pro-Mubarak forces are arriving on horseback, camelback and in chariots. http://www.zerohedge.com/article/clashes-break-out-between-pro-and-anti-mubarak-groups-cairos-tahrir-square-political-turmoil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This is really bad. I am gonna have a lot more to say. I hope the choas that is arising stops soon, people take their time and think .... or things could end up being worse than ever before for us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancyk58 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12345656 2 February 2011 Last updated at 22:08 GMT Egypt unrest: deadly clashes rock Cairo's Tahrir Square Three people are killed and hundreds wounded in the Egyptian capital, as supporters and opponents of President Hosni Mubarak fight pitched battles. Gunfire was heard as rival groups of stone-throwing demonstrators fought pitched battles in and around the city's Tahrir Square. The army has urged people to go home. The protesters are demanding President Mubarak's resignation. He has vowed not to seek re-election in September. Wednesday's violence came after more than a week of demonstrations that have left about 300 people dead, according to UN estimates. Counter-protests Up to 2,000 anti-Mubarak demonstrators had spent Tuesday night in Tahrir Square, the main focus of the protests, saying the president's pledge was insufficient and chanting: "We will not leave!" On Wednesday, thousands of supporters of President Mubarak arrived in buses and surged into the square, dismantling barricades. "Let the man (Mubarak) take care of you until his time is up," Mohamed Shafik, 51, told Reuters news agency. "Mubarak wants stability and we want stability as well." One anti-government protester told the BBC that pro-Mubarak activists had initiated the violence. "They started throwing stones at us," the man, named as Zaccaria, said. "Then some of us started throwing stones at them and then we chased them out of the square. They returned once again with the horses and the whips and the thugs." Opposition supporters say many in the pro-government camp were paid by the authorities to demonstrate, and allowed into the square by the troops surrounding it. Repeated bursts of gunfire have been heard. Some reports say troops fired warning shots to disperse the crowds. Ibrahim Zadran, co-ordinator of the opposition National Association for Change, told the BBC that some pro-government activists had used firearms and shot 15 protesters. BBC Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen, who has been to Tahrir Square, said he had seen people with nasty wounds. Egyptian Health Minister Ahmed Sameh Farid told the Associated Press news agency a member of the security forces died when he fell off a bridge. Two other people died from unspecified wounds in hospital, he added. It was not clear whether they were critics or supporters of Mr Mubarak. As darkness fell, people were seen throwing rocks and petrol bombs from rooftops on to the protesters below. The clashes later died down, although there were petrol bomb incidents into the night. Many anti-government protesters remain in Tahrir Square. The BBC's Yolande Knell in Cairo says the situation remains tense there as fires continue to burn outside the museum building. Clashes between the rival groups were also reported in Egypt's second city, Alexandria. Late on Wednesday Vice-President Omar Suleiman urged "all citizens to return to their homes and abide by the curfew". The violence drew condemnation from British Prime Minister David Cameron. "If it turns out that the regime in any way has sponsored or tolerated this violence, that is completely unacceptable," he said after meeting UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon in London. Mr Ban said: "Any attack against the peaceful demonstrators is unacceptable and I strongly condemn it." In Washington, the state department reiterated a call for all sides to show restraint. In its earlier statement, Egypt's army called for demonstrators to return to their homes. "Your message has arrived, your demands became known... you are capable of bringing normal life to Egypt," said a spokesman in a message broadcast on state television. In a speech on Tuesday night Mr Mubarak - who has been in office for nearly 30 years - promised to leave at the next polls and pledged constitutional reform. He said he would devote his remaining time in power to ensuring a peaceful transition. US President Barack Obama responded by saying an orderly transition "must begin now". Opposition leader Mohamed ElBaradei dismissed Mr Mubarak's move as "a trick" to stay in power, and Tahrir Square protesters have vowed to continue their demonstrations until Mr Mubarak quits. Abdelhalim Kandil, leader of Egypt's Kifaya (Enough) opposition movement, said Mr Mubarak's offer not to serve a sixth term was not enough. "I will tell you very simply that there is an unprecedented popular movement that rejects the presence of the president on a scope that has not been seen before, that is calling for the will of the people to be imposed," he said. If Mr Mubarak does not step down, demonstrators have planned to march on the presidential palace. Meanwhile, internet services were returning to the country, having been cut off for days by the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indanomati Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 IF INTERESTED. Though I'm not sure why Lebanon seems to be out of the picture.. And THIS is pretty much perfect if you wanna follow up on the events happening there. And also for actual live TV coverage. Been watching this the whole time along with Euronews (<3) and BBC, also some CNN (WHICH I DO NOT RECOMMEND) and Al-Arabiyah for other different perspectives and of course Egyptian's State TV, Nile, for some humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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