^ :nod: Second suspect is now identified as Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev. Both suspects appear to be from Chechnya.

Its so strange how absolutely nobody has mentioned what his (Now deceased) brothers name is, and where did they get the name Mike Mulugeta in the first place?

 

That sentence almost sounded like I'm hinting at conspiracy or something, nah it just is strange.

According to a few news outlets he's posted Quran verses on his Facebook page, so religious fundamentalism seems to be the motive if it's him. :\ 19 years old...

EDIT: On second thought, them coming from troubled regions like Chechnya and Kyrgyzstan, it could just as well fueled by hate towards the western world. Horrible stuff have happened there.

I'm glad I woke up when I did, because if I missed all of this while it is unfolding -- I'd probably kick myself over and over.

 

Shit is getting intense.

I'm glad I woke up when I did, because if I missed all of this while it is unfolding -- I'd probably kick myself over and over.

 

Shit is getting intense.

 

Why?

Why?

 

I'm into journalism, and as horrible as all this is, it gives me a rush because breaking news. I just hope to God they catch the bastard alive.

I'm into journalism, and as horrible as all this is, it gives me a rush because breaking news. I just hope to God they catch the bastard alive.

 

And this is part of what's wrong with these things. People just love watching it. It's entertainment, not news. So much misinformation flying around, so many conspiracy theories. I'd rather wake up and it all be sorted and we know what's happened.

 

I don't think it's normal for our human psyche to be following such brutal atrocities as though it's a sports match. Happens to all of us but you kicking yourself if you'd missed this is part of the reason that the news is so fucking poor. Concentrating on being the first to break news, rather than the news outlet who present only the facts or can properly utilise those facts to make a profound statement, placed in a broader picture. If you're guaranteeing to be first to break the news, you're doing the news wrong.

 

I hope you never become a journalist.

Concentrating on being the first to break news, rather than the news outlet who present only the facts or can properly utilise those facts to make a profound statement, placed in a broader picture. If you're guaranteeing to be first to break the news, you're doing the news wrong.

 

And that's exactly why the past few days have been such a mess. Every American-based media outlet (except NBC) reported officials had someone in custody, etc. (You could mention The New York Post in that list as well, but does anyone actually take them seriously?) It was blatantly obvious the stations were going for quantity over quality.

 

I just happen to enjoy breaking news. I work at a news station, and most days, we have locally-based breaking news. Even then, it's something else to report other than the multiple drug arrests, robberies and various murders we report daily. I've reported many stories before, and it's something I enjoy doing. While I agree we really shouldn't view events like this was such enthusiasm, it certainly continues to build up my desire to work in this field.

The Danish TV2 News broadcast from Boston all day today. A programme called TV2 Finance was not broadcast today because "it was important to keep the signal in Boston" - so non-stop coverage from BOSTON repeating the same stuff and interviews again and again (i.a. with a girl who had been in class with a sister of the terrorist brothers).

 

And as someone - Braddock? - wrote: Much of it is speculation / rumours. So afterwards it might be difficult to know what is the TRUTH ? Because your head is so tired of / filled with all kind of information (much of it rumours / wrong assumptions).

 

Danish TV2 News this week has been covering - almost non-stop - Boston, Thatcher's funeral and legacy, then the terrible explosion / fire in Texas that destroyed most of a village and now today Boston again. (Even though negociations among Danish parties ended up in an important agreement between all Danish parties but one).

 

It is alright to be kept up to date, but news items from the USA and the UK are so more important in Denmark nowadays than news from other European countries.

 

Sometimes an alien might wonder whether our planet consists of Europe and America (and to some degree Asia / China + Japan) as we are mainly getting news from the USA, the UK, China, Japan - and to some degree from the EU (European Union).

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/us/details-of-tsarnaev-brothers-boston-suspects-emerge.html?smid=fb-nytimes&WT.z_sma=US_FFW_20130419

 

An interesting profile on the suspects.

 

It's bizzarre hearing of the incidents in Watertown which is literally blocks from where I stay when in Boston.

I really didn't expect it to be going on for this long, you have to wonder if he's managed to get far away somehow because he's been on the run for like over 12 hours or something?

i thought they would've caught him by now. how he managed to get away for this long is...surprising.

Gunshots

Suspect in custody.

Glad the police apprehended him, maybe they can piece the puzzle together a bit more. It would good to understand what leads people to act on frustrations and do so much harm to innocent people, to reduce the odds of this happening again at the root of the trouble.

Thank God he's still alive. It would be a shame for both to die and not hear solid reasoning as to why they didn't any of what they did.

 

Better yet, thank God this is finally over. I can't begin to imagine the fear, annoyance and confusion surrounding everyone in the Boston area. What could have gone any crazy direction ended much better than what most were thinking.

 

What a week. The initial bombings, the West, TX explosion, and the end of the Boston ordeal. Yay.

Glad that this week's Boston drama is over - and that the 19-year-old has been caught alive so that we can hear some kind of explanation of events - why did the 2 brothers do this?

 

Latest news: The guy has wounds from shots - he is in a critical condition so he might still die!! I hope not, but likely.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zty-6T8FUt8]Boston and America Celebrates End of Manhunt for Marathon Bombing Suspect - YouTube[/ame]

 

Boston suspect captured alive after dramatic finish to day-long manhunt

 

• Dzhokhar Tsarnaev taken into custody after police standoff

• Suspect, 19, found hiding in boat in Watertown backyard

• Obama: 'Our nation is in debt to the people of Massachusetts'

 

The 22-hour manhunt for the surviving Boston bombing suspect reached a dramatic and surprising conclusion on Friday night when 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was captured alive after being surrounded by heavily armed police in a suburban backyard.

 

Tsarnaev was found hiding in a boat in the yard of a home in Watertown, Massachusetts, the small town near Boston where his elder brother Tamerlan was fatally shot by police after a chase that began the prevous evening. The pair had been identified as suspects in Monday's double bomb attack on the Boston Marathon that killed three people and injured more than 170.

 

For about two hours on Friday night, Tsarnaev was surrounded by Swat teams and hundreds of other officers, surviving a barrage of gunfire and flash grenades. At 8.41pm ET, it was finally announced over the police radio: "Suspect in custody".

 

Tsarnaev had been injured in a shootout with police on Thursday and had suffered significant blood loss. Police said he was in a serious condition in hospital on Friday night.

 

When the news came through that Tsarnaev captured alive, Thomas Menino, the mayor of Boston who has struggled through the week with his own health issues, reacted by saying: "We got him." A large crowd gathered near the location of the suspect's arrest began clapping and shouting "Thank you" as a police ambulance carrying the suspect drove by.

 

At a jubilant press conference after the arrest, the sense of relief among law enforcement officials was palpable.

 

Massachusetts police superintendent, Colonel Tim Alben, said: "We are so grateful to bring justice and closure to this case. We are grateful for the outcome here tonight. We're exhausted, folks, but we have a victory here tonight."

 

Explaining the breakthrough that had led to Tsarnaev's capture, Edward Deveau, the Watertown police chief, praised local residents. "It was a call from a resident of Watertown," he said. "We asked you to remain vigilant and you did. We got the call and we got the guy."

 

Shortly before the the arrest, police in New Bedford, Massachusetts, confirmed that the FBI had taken three people into custody for questioning at a housing complex where Tsarnaev, a student at the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, may have lived.

 

In a statement at the White House, President Obama said: "Tonight our nation is in debt to the people of Boston and the people of Massachusetts. All in all, it's been a tough week, but we've seen the character of our country once more."

 

But he said there were many unanswered questions, particularly with the news that both men had lived in the US for some time. "Why did young men who grew up and studied here as part of our communities and our country resort to this violence?"

 

There are also likely to be questions about the role of the FBI. The Tsarnaevs' mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, told Russia Today that the FBI had been in contact with Tamarlan Tsarnaev for between three and five years.

 

In the US there were multiple reports that FBI officials admitted interviewing him in 2011 on behalf of a foreign government, most likely Russia. The Tsarnaev family were ethnic Chechens; Moscow brutally put down the independence movement in Chechnya during two wars in the 1990s.

 

Tsarnaev's apprehension brings to an end five days of high anxiety that began at 2.50pm on Monday, with the blasts, 12 seconds apart, near the finish line of the Boston marathon. The FBI say the brothers had dropped bags containing bombs made from pressure cookers packed with nails and ball bearings.

 

A breakthrough in the case came on Thursday evening when police identified two suspects and published their photorgraphs. The drama unfolded quickly: at about 10.30pm on Thursday the two brothers, of Chechen origin, ambushed a police officer, Sean Collier, 26, on the campus of MIT. They then carjacked a black Mercedes, sparking a car chase with police that ended with a huge gunfight in Watertown.

 

Pipe bombs and other explosive devices were thrown by the suspects. Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was killed, but Dzhokhar Tsarnaev escaped on foot.

 

More than a million residents of Boston and the surrounding towns had been told to stay inside their homes for most of Friday as hundreds of law enforcement officers went door to door in Watertown searching for Tsarnaev.

 

The final flurry of frenzied police activity began shortly before 7pm on Friday, just minutes after police chiefs had come before the TV cameras and told the residents of Watertown that they were ending the lockdown, despite admitting that they had lost track of the suspect.

 

A renewed bout of gunfire of about 30 rounds ripped through Watertown as Swat teams and dozens of police vehicles raced to the area of Birch Road, a leafy street with about 14 houses in it. Police immediately ordered people in Watertown to stay indoors, while officers evacuated nearby households, helping families flee across an adjacent field.

 

A resident of Watertown had called police to report he had found a man covered in blood hiding in the boat standing in the yard of a house in Birch Road. Officers exchanged gunfire with the Tsarnaev as they surrounded the boat. There was no chance this time that he could escape.

 

It is now believed that Tsarnaev may have been holed up in the boat all day, eluding the door-to-door search that was going on elsewhere. Birch Road is just a couple of blocks outside the 20-block exclusion zone that the police had set up early on Friday in an attempt to contain the suspect.

 

Amid fears that Tsarnaev may have been wearing a suicide vest or carrying explosives, officers were extremely cautious about moving in. As darkness fell, the barrage of forces ringed around the boat was reinforced by specialist FBI squads dressed in full military gear, wearing protective helmets and vests and equipped with nightvision goggles. Bomb disposal experts, equipped with a robot, were also brought in.

 

Police used a helicopter to monitor the boat from overhead, reporting early in the operation that there was visible movement coming from underneath the tarp, suggesting that Tsarnaev was at that point still alive. Minutes before 8pm there were flashes of light and booms thought to be grenades thrown into the boat.

 

Around 150 people had gathered at the end of nearby Franklin Street to watch the police operation. Most were neighbours who lived within one or two blocks. Many had waited here for an hour or more after hearing police had the second suspect cornered.

 

The first sign that Tsarnaev might have been taken into custody came when a uniformed officer walked away from the top of Franklin Street and vigorously clapped the hand of a fellow official. He looked down at the ground and clapped his hands two or three times.

 

The crowd read the signal and broke out into applause, cheering. "Did you get him?" one man shouted. An officer nodded his head. The cheers intensified.

 

"It feels great," said Bill Forbush, who two blocks away from where Tsarnaev was apprehended. He and his wife, Ann, had been standing on the corner for an hour and a half. They had heard the first gunshots, and heard the sounds of what reportedly were flash bang grenades. They had spent 20 hours indoors while the town was locked down.

 

"It's nice to be out in the spring air and be relieved," Bill Forbush said. "There's a great sense of relief."

 

As he spoke police vehicles and officers began to stream out of Franklin Street. Each vehicle and each official was cheered. "Great job, you guys," shouted one man, over and over.

 

Tsarnaev had proved to be exceptionally adept in eluding the combined forces of some of the most highly trained and heavily armed law enforcement agencies in America. By the time of his capture, he had managed to evade capture for more than four days.

 

More details emerged on Friday about the background of the brothers, ethnic Chechens who had followed a convoluted path to the United States. Although it appears that they never lived in Chechnya, they maintained close ties to its culture.

 

There were conflicting reports about their places of birth. Local media in Kyrgyzstan quoted police saying they had both been born there. But family members in the US said the younger brother, Dzhokhar, was born in Dagestan. The brothers are thought to have spent some of their youth in the city of Tomok, the centre of Kyrgyzstan's Chechen community.

 

According to his page on the Russian social network VKontakte, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev attended School Number One in Makhachkala, Dagestan's capital. Irina Bandurina, an administrator at the school, said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev studied there in 2001, after moving from Kyrgyzstan, and left for the United States in 2002. He appears to have spent his formative years in the US and graduated from high school in Cambridge, Massachusetts in 2011. The first of two wars in Chechnya broke out in 1994, a year after he was born. The battles with Moscow spawned Islamic radicalism in the state, leading to deadly attacks on the Moscow metro in 2004 and 2010, and a school in Beslan in 2004.

 

Checnya's separatist cause struck Tamerlan Tsarnaev deeply, according to a report by photographer Johannes Hirn, who profiled the young Chechen when he was training for a boxing match in 2010. One caption in the report, which had been removed from Hirn's website by Friday night, read: "Unless his native Chechnya becomes independent, Tamerlan says he would rather compete for the United States than for Russia."

 

The photo essay also showed him to have been committed to his Muslim faith, and poorly integrated in the US. According to Hirn's report, the Chechen once said: "I don't have a single American friend, I don't understand them."

 

Friends of Dzhokhar Tsaranaev described him as very differnet from his older brother. Zolan Kanno-Youngs, an intern at the Boston Globe, told the paper in a video report that they were good friends at Cambridge Rindge Latin high school with Dzokhar.

 

He said: "Dzhokhar was just a guy with full potential, and never showed any signs of doing this whatsoever. I think that if you ask anybody in Cambridge that truly knew him, and truly hung out with him, this you would know that this is probably the most shocking news we've heard in a while ... I can't even comprehend it still."

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/20/boston-suspect-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-captured-alive

Glad the police apprehended him, maybe they can piece the puzzle together a bit more. It would good to understand what leads people to act on frustrations and do so much harm to innocent people, to reduce the odds of this happening again at the root of the trouble.

 

Thank God he's still alive. It would be a shame for both to die and not hear solid reasoning as to why they didn't any of what they did.

 

Better yet, thank God this is finally over. I can't begin to imagine the fear, annoyance and confusion surrounding everyone in the Boston area. What could have gone any crazy direction ended much better than what most were thinking.

 

What a week. The initial bombings, the West, TX explosion, and the end of the Boston ordeal. Yay.

 

Glad that this week's Boston drama is over - and that the 19-year-old has been caught alive so that we can hear some kind of explanation of events - why did the 2 brothers do this?

 

Latest news: The guy has wounds from shots - he is in a critical condition so he might still die!! I hope not, but likely.

 

Most certainly. Here's hoping he pulls through so things can be pieced together. Without his testimony the rumours for why will be wild. He'll already become some form of political capital but without his word he'll be twisted into all sorts of different propaganda. He'll be used by the NRA for one thing, Republicans for another, Democrats for another, racists for another. With greater understanding it will be easier for the people to try and make up their own minds a bit more and see through some of the propaganda that will follow this tragedy.

 

And of course we should hope for him to survive so that he can face up to what he has done and serve a just punishment. I imagine once things are cleared up to a greater extent (if he makes it through) then the next thing will be people in and outside of America arguing against capital punishment for him. It will be interesting how that goes down. I've not known of someone who has lived in America for a decade to go up for capital punishment who the outside world has followed so intently (post McVeigh, and the capital punishment argument was at a different stage then). There's been several cases that have gained a lot of coverage but outsiders will feel more involved in this one and so can have some form of influence. Hopefully such a barbaric practice won't last too much longer.

http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2013/04/when-crowdsourcing-goes-wrong-reddit-boston-and-missing-student-sunil-tripathi

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It was good that they caught him alive. :nod:

Im glad the person was caught but he wasn't read his Miranda rights?!

 

Regardless of what he did he should've been read them. It's creating a blurry line as to when people shouldn't be read them. "It was terrorism"... What is the exact definition of terrorism then? What differentiates this with a serial killer, mass murderer or war criminal?

^ Terrorism: mass murder commited by muslim.

^ Terrorism: mass murder commited by muslim.

 

But 'Muslim' is somewhat irrelevant. Yes, two Muslims committed the act, but terrorism is terrorism, regardless of religion, race, etc.