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the principles of communism are amazing, it just never works in reality because those in power are corrupt

the principle is so naive it's ridiculous

why should someone rich give up everything they worked for just so the alcoholic bum can be equal? oh you're right eric, he shouldn't

 

it's a philosophy even if it never works, its still great in principle (and no i'm not a communist).

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whoa man i just noticed

didn't your name used to be "_riff" ?

what happened?

am i just being retarded or what?

haha it's always been riff_ coz i screwed up my first riff nick :(

I think im gonna change it to "Lotta's bitch" haha

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I dont have one ounce of respect for Michael Moore. He takes facts and creates fiction out of it, which distorts people's perception of reality. I personally know people that can prove his "facts" as merely fiction, not only for F/911, but also for Bowling for Columbine, and Roger and Me. He just wants to shock people and make millions of dollars off it.

 

You know... an interesting fact. After he made F/911, more people in Iraq died. He actually made the war worse.

 

Why doesnt he do something constructive with his money and donate it to the families in Iraq?

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I dont have one ounce of respect for Michael Moore. He takes facts and creates fiction out of it, which distorts people's perception of reality. I personally know people that can prove his "facts" as merely fiction, not only for F/911, but also for Bowling for Columbine, and Roger and Me. He just wants to shock people and make millions of dollars off it.

 

i second that. :dozey:

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Oh my God, how can you be that stupid Bet you obviously don't know anything about Lennin ideology and purposes of russian revolution... However, before complaining about ideology or actions u don't even understand, should first look what ur country has done to the rest of the world and can quote too many examples... Irak, Iran , Vietnam, Japan, whole Latin America... agh

 

:lol: what a great response

 

yeah, Eric, that´s so true. I hate comunism. They think that they are able to kill people for any reason.

 

 

i think you're assuming that capitalism works for everyone....... :confused: communism is good in theory, it's just a shame the concept falls into the wrong hands. i recommend you read Marx and Engels' Communist Manifesto :P :wink3:

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i think you're assuming that capitalism works for everyone....... communism is good in theory, it's just a shame the concept falls into the wrong hands. i recommend you read Marx and Engels' Communist Manifesto

 

yeah, I know...it´s really into wrong hands.

I know about Marx and Engels. The theory is amazing, but no one can put it working, so... :confused:

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thats not socialism, that's stealing

we aren't even talking about socialism :idea2:

 

The scientific definition of communism can't work in real life. Sure, a system of government in which everyone lives in peace while working as hard as they can to provide for the welfare of their countrymen sounds great from the administrative perspective. In real life, however, people won't work "just for the hell of it." People need an incentive. In capitalism, the incentive to work hard is to receive more compensation. In communism, there is no real incentive to work hard. If someone is told to show up at work for 8 hours a day and he will get the equivelant of $10 in compensation regardless of whether he accomplishes more than 10 men or whether he sleeps all day, guess which one he will choose. You're anchoring society at one point of advancement, as no one has a desire to work any harder than they have to. As for the "no police force or army," that is just wishful thinking. When people (remember, we're talking about real life here) see an opening, they will take it. You can't expect an entire nation of people to just play nice. Sure, communism sounds great on paper. Unfortunately, it can't work in real life. It's not just a coincidence that communism has failed in every nation that has attempted it. Anyone who supports communism has never lived in a country that has implemented it. Communism is a cult. It stresses the absence of religion (Even for you atheists, no society in history has ever retained its morals in the absence of religion) and total commitment to a national entity in which people are nothing more than numbers in a scheme of national production vs. national consumption. Sure, capitalism isn't perfect. It tends to give power to the wealthy few at the expense of the destitute many. Even if capitalism is evil, communism isn't a righteous response to capitalism and democracy. In a democracy, even one directed by the wealthy, leaders are made to answer for their decisions. In a communist government, the leadership (I hope I don't have to explain the necessity of a central leadership in any form of government) answers protesters with a trip to Siberia. The global acceptance of communism would be a steady spiral towards a world in which human beings are nothing more than than high-maintenance machines working towards some end--most likely, and here's the irony, the betterment and continued comfort of the upper (government) class.

 

i doubt anyone of you will read that, buncha lazy asses :lol:

 

but lotta, i won't to molest your avatar, fuck, you are ridiculously beautiful. but then you have to live in Finland! good going! k i'm being gay, you need to get on msn, darling.

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thats not socialism, that's stealing

we aren't even talking about socialism :idea2:

 

The scientific definition of communism can't work in real life. Sure, a system of government in which everyone lives in peace while working as hard as they can to provide for the welfare of their countrymen sounds great from the administrative perspective. In real life, however, people won't work "just for the hell of it." People need an incentive. In capitalism, the incentive to work hard is to receive more compensation. In communism, there is no real incentive to work hard. If someone is told to show up at work for 8 hours a day and he will get the equivelant of $10 in compensation regardless of whether he accomplishes more than 10 men or whether he sleeps all day, guess which one he will choose. You're anchoring society at one point of advancement, as no one has a desire to work any harder than they have to. As for the "no police force or army," that is just wishful thinking. When people (remember, we're talking about real life here) see an opening, they will take it. You can't expect an entire nation of people to just play nice. Sure, communism sounds great on paper. Unfortunately, it can't work in real life. It's not just a coincidence that communism has failed in every nation that has attempted it. Anyone who supports communism has never lived in a country that has implemented it. Communism is a cult. It stresses the absence of religion (Even for you atheists, no society in history has ever retained its morals in the absence of religion) and total commitment to a national entity in which people are nothing more than numbers in a scheme of national production vs. national consumption. Sure, capitalism isn't perfect. It tends to give power to the wealthy few at the expense of the destitute many. Even if capitalism is evil, communism isn't a righteous response to capitalism and democracy. In a democracy, even one directed by the wealthy, leaders are made to answer for their decisions. In a communist government, the leadership (I hope I don't have to explain the necessity of a central leadership in any form of government) answers protesters with a trip to Siberia. The global acceptance of communism would be a steady spiral towards a world in which human beings are nothing more than than high-maintenance machines working towards some end--most likely, and here's the irony, the betterment and continued comfort of the upper (government) class.

 

i doubt anyone of you will read that, buncha lazy asses :lol:

 

but lotta, i won't to molest your avatar, fuck, you are ridiculously beautiful. but then you have to live in Finland! good going! k i'm being gay, you need to get on msn, darling.

we used to have a saying "you can't pay me little as little as i can work"(maybe the translation isn't the best :lol:)

Capitalisam requires you to find a way to earn a buck,and then when you do it you can hire other ppl to do work for you,which is nice...

Altho not many have the spirit of entreprenurian...in that case you'll have to be real hardworking...

There's no perfect sistem,maybe we'll live in peace when one day they invent holodeck,but nah :rolleyes: ...

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