Figuring as no one else but we awesome people visit this thread, can I just say I'm really fucking sick of the articles of Pete constantly getting posted? He just posts them because he doesn't like Peter and likes to open a can of worms constantly. It's fucking lame and I honestly can't stand it anymore.

 

 

I don't care if I'm riding a high horse in that other thread, if I am then I like it up here. I like how Ian posts news articles in band's threads, like the U2 one? And no one posts all the shit articles about Chris and Gwyn all the time in the Coldplay area (are there even those articles anymore? I don't think so actually but you get what I mean). It's fucking annoying.

 

 

Just makes the song quote in my profile more poignant though! :laugh4: And it'd be nice if people DID make a Peter hate thread so they could all just take their idiocy there and I wouldn't have to read it all the time all over the place.

 

 

 

 

I'm so fucking pissy with people on here lately. It's like everybody but us who post in here are just judgemental towards me.

 

 

So I listen to the Libertines a trillion times more than I listen to Coldplay (Which I believe has become fairly obvious, since I only live in this music section lmfao)? So what. It doesn't stop me from posting here. Oy vey.

If I were Pete a pap would be dead by now.

 

 

I'm not joking. I'd fucking kill them. Stupid cunts should go leech on someone else for once.

How beautiful is this video? It's been awhile since I've seen the Newsnight interview, I like how this person took the performance out.

 

 

What a tune.

 

 

 

 

 

:nice:

You took the words outta me. I think, in fact, a "we-hate-Pete-Thread" should be opened. I respect everyone's opinion and honsestly I am glad and open to hearing and discussing them. However, instead of changing everybody's idea of who a person is by posting every single ridiculous headline about a particular artist is just a waste of time(in this paticular case, Pete)

 

This is perhaps the only appropiate thread in which I could vent this, but Its been so long since I've wanted to say this. I went away from these forums for a long time because it truly disturbs me how many pointless shit is posted in the Coldplay section. Who cares, if Gwyneth and Chris went to some store, or walked on a sidewalk?? Im getting the feeling that its not so much about the music anymore!

 

I'd like to say the same about these headlines, which by the way, arent even realible to start with. Do I care? Perhaps. But dont involve the rest of humanity of something that they arent interested anyway. Changing their opinion and all(or making them ACTUALLY have a point of view). Stop with the "oooh, Pete the potty"!. You dont like him, then stop saying it. Its like that one annoying person that would go to the point of going to an event(and even paying) just to say how much they hate someone! It just makes me mad!

Artists have a personal life and should be kept that way.

If I were Pete a pap would be dead by now.

 

 

I'm not joking. I'd fucking kill them. Stupid cunts should go leech on someone else for once.

 

Well he always seems to be armed with a deadly "needle", so it wouldn't take much........................... :rolleyes:

What's so special about them?

to be drunk and high, with paparazzi. ahhh, what a bliss...

**note: being sarcastic**

Yeah.. I don't get it, what's so special about them, but I guess that's because of me.. other ppl think they're cool and stuff.. uch...

Yeah.. I don't get it' date=' what's so special about them, but I guess that's because of me.. other ppl think they're cool and stuff.. uch...[/quote']

 

Because of their association with drugs, I think both of them are completely uncool!!;)

^ An agreement. Besides, I think that Kate Moss is kinda dumb because first she lost big deals ebcause of the drugs, and then she 'won' deals of big fashionppl and that Pete..? Dunno.. they're stupid, really, my opinion

^ An agreement. Besides' date=' I think that Kate Moss is kinda dumb because first she lost big deals ebcause of the drugs, and then she 'won' deals of big fashionppl and that Pete..? Dunno.. they're stupid, really, my opinion[/quote']

 

A lot of people are furious that she now has even more (and bigger) contracts than before, because it makes it look like her behaviour is "acceptable".

As for Pete, I really don't know what all the fuss is about.:rolleyes:

^ Yes! As if it's cool and right to do drugs to win more deals!

PEte is kidna ugly don't you think? :P

^ Yes! As if it's cool and right to do drugs to win more deals!

PEte is kidna ugly don't you think? :P

 

:rolleyes:

Because of their association with drugs' date=' I think both of them are completely [i']un[/i]cool!!;)

 

 

Yeah, because I'm one big crackhead and the only reason I listen to the Libertines music is because Pete and Carl shoot up.

 

 

Frankly, that statement is incredibly insulting to me. :laugh4: And I'm sure it would surprise a lot of you, but Libertines fans (and the bands that shot off from them) are actually the nicest people in the world. Not potheads at all! Interesting, since Pete is such a HORRIBLE role model, right? Really weird!

 

 

And here's the million dollar question, what's your views towards the Rolling Stones? They made some pretty cool music, right? Funny, if I think back I believe they had some drug problems as well...... Very strange. So before you chastise the music or people, think about the fact that some of the music deemed as "classic" today was recorded under the influence of very hard drugs. Don't be hypocrits, please. That's all I say. And the only reason I'm rambling on about this is because I know I'm speaking for a group of people on here who I know feel the same way.

 

Whatever. Thanks for making the hate thread. *unsubscribes*

I've thought about leaving the board for a little while now.... But I stay because I found you girls, who are a merger of my favorite people in the world, Coldplay fans and Lib fans ;) I really feel like this is the only thread that I fit in with now. Everyone else is so judgemental.

 

 

The Libertines are SO opposite Coldplay, so I can kind of see the immediate dislike (frankly, I was shocked to find this thread to begin with!).... They're imperfect, they have drug problems, they shot up and burnt out fast.... They're brilliant though. They always will be, as are the off shoots. My most ready comparison I can make with the Libertines is the early Rolling Stones, specifically the rock 'n roll decadence they went through in the 70s (Exile on Main Street is the most brilliant record of theirs ever, but it was written coming out of some extremely hard drug use times). I'm in no way trying to insinuate that drugs lead to brilliance, not at all. I'm just saying that sometimes they play a factor in the HISTORY of it. People don't become genius' with drugs, obviously Peter didn't (poet from birth, basically!). So why rag on someone because of what they do with their extra curriculars?

 

 

Because it's easy, I suppose. Because everyone likes a scape goat. Because I suppose Pete is like the Paris Hilton equivalent in the UK? You know, a complete idiot running around doing shit and no one knows why the hell he/she ever got hte opportunity to get in the papers. Everyone loves a train wreck, we all slow down to look at a smashed car and a dead body. That's not to say it's right in any way. I know I don't. But people around here (specifically Mark) seem to :laugh4: I'll stop myself, because I can feel myself getting a little nasty inside and I don't want someone to come in here and read anything. I'm not interested in fighting with people. But Peter is a beautiful human being, so I believe he deserves all the defense and credit we can give him.

 

 

 

 

I'll refrain from calling Coldplay fans pussies, but god some of them should grow up. People do drugs. People fight. People punch others. Shit goes down. Do we always have to make that the be all, end all for a person's personality?

 

 

And honestly, I bet the people who ramble on in the Pete hate thread have never listened to 'Music When The Lights Go Out' or danced around alone to 'Up The Bracket' when they needed to be lifted up the most. I pity them. I truly do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whatever, you see these two cold fingers? These crooked fingers I show....

Yeah, because I'm one big crackhead and the only reason I listen to the Libertines music is because Pete and Carl shoot up.

 

 

Frankly, that statement is incredibly insulting to me. :laugh4: And I'm sure it would surprise a lot of you, but Libertines fans (and the bands that shot off from them) are actually the nicest people in the world. Not potheads at all! Interesting, since Pete is such a HORRIBLE role model, right? Really weird!

 

 

And here's the million dollar question, what's your views towards the Rolling Stones? They made some pretty cool music, right? Funny, if I think back I believe they had some drug problems as well...... Very strange. So before you chastise the music or people, think about the fact that some of the music deemed as "classic" today was recorded under the influence of very hard drugs. Don't be hypocrits, please. That's all I say. And the only reason I'm rambling on about this is because I know I'm speaking for a group of people on here who I know feel the same way.

 

Whatever. Thanks for making the hate thread. *unsubscribes*

 

Sure, the Stones have "indulged" a bit over the years, but at least they became famous for their music first!!

What do most people know Pete for? Being a junkie and dating a snorting supermodel, that's what!!

Pete Doherty hasn't recorded anything yet that is in the same league as anything recorded by the Stones, who are rock giants. The record sales speak for themselves.

The Stones are still going after 40 years.

The way PD's going, he'll be lucky if he's still alive in four years.;)

Pete is everything Chris Martin isn't. A terrible role model who seems to be lost in his own mind.

I really can't see what all the fuss is about.:dozey:

Pete & Carl are great musicians. The Libertines were an amazing band as Dirty Pretty Things & Babyshambles are now! Don't mess up with 'em!

Wow, way to insult the fans of the Libertines/Shambles/DPT's MUSIC on here. Real nice.

 

 

Read this, it says more to you people than any of us ever could.

 

 

They didn't care about nu metal or Britpop. These complex people wanted to do something very simple: be in the greatest British band that ever picked up a guitar.

 

In the short time they existed, the Libertines accomplished the impossible: on their own they kickstarted a new British music renaissance, from Franz Ferdinand to Kaiser Chiefs to Arctic Monkeys. They erased the barrier with fans, they inspired thousands to follow, they gave away entire albums of material for free on the internet with a determination that shocked major labels.

 

And where it's safer to hide under a carapace of irony rather than reveal your true feelings, they've been wincingly honest. Yet much of the media have failed to grasp the band or what they really mean, falling for live-fast-die-young cliches and trying to pin on them fabulous notions of a Sid Vicious obsession. At a time when the media has been long confident that it can spot ever feint and shift of music, they've united in a strange echo of the censorious past. Headlines pleading for Kate Moss to abandon Junkie Pete have the dinstinct echo of the ramblings of the 1960s tabloids: 'Would you let your daughter marry a Rolling Stone?'

 

The songs The Libertines created are the equal of anyone's in the history of British music. At the same time, they are the classic British band: a band with the finest frontline duo since The Clash and as inspirational as the Smiths. Their breathtaking live performances, teetering on the edge of disaster, were greater than those of Radiohead, Oasis or Nirvana. Original and blindingly beautiful, they blazed brightly, never compromising, never selling out.

 

--Excerpt (fucking TYPED UP from the book by me) from The Libertines: Bound Together by Anthony Thornton and Roger Sargent.

 

So before you go off on your high and mighty rant about "what's he ever done that's good for us?" why don't you realize that Peter (and Carlos, who we must remember is no saint either) has actually saved people from commiting suicide, saved people from depression overtaking them, saved and CHANGED their lives (certainly has changed mine). All because of the MUSIC. Realize that before you chastise us again. Because he's done that for me. He's done that just as Chris Martin has. So right now, you just don't know what you're talking about.

 

 

lmfao, funny though. Sell a few thousand more records and you can shoot up as much as you like! What a fuckin' double standard.

Yeah that's true! You've gotta realize they were a great band & they made history in their short time, that's something hard to do!

It doesn't matter if it's 4, or 40,000 lives. It doesn't matter if it's NME or Rolling Stone. It doesn't matter if it's a platinum, a gold or nothing. A local band can change a life. The Libertines changed mine. This is why I get miffed. It's personally insulting to me for someone to dismiss me like that, I get it a lot lately. I'm not a dirty person, I'm not a drug addict. I'm a music fan. I love Coldplay. I love the Libertines. I love BabyShambles. I love U2. If you want to know why Peter is my hero, then listen to Up The Bracket with your eyes closed, in the dark of your room. It certainly altered my perception, which is quite a nice thing. Blindness is soooo very useless!

That was so deep! How did they change your life?? If I can ask..

lmfao, I'm in a really deep mood today for some reason! dunno why!

 

 

I guess I was just getting tired of myself. I didn't have much music to listen to, which is kind of a scary feeling for me. I actually really hated Peter, I bought into all the news articles posted on here and thought he was an utter moron. But there was something that intrigued me? I suppose it was the "wait, who the fuck is he?" mentality. So I listened to 'Don't Look Back Into The Sun' and watched the video........ it was like it opened a whole new world up to me. The music that doesn't reach America, that no one seems to really care that much about. I didn't know who I was before I got into the Libertines. But so many other bands followed. It was as though they just.... clarified my mind and showed me who I am? I can't explain it, but this summer I really discovered myself, and the Libertines happened to be the soundtrack to that.

 

Believe it or not (believe it), but the Libertines lyrics also got me very interested in literature (Wilde, Blake, Yeats and the like) that I had never been into before. There are a lot of illusions in the songs that I wanted to understand, so I read a ton of books that Peter had either mentioned in an interview or a song (Dorian Gray for example). Literature and poetry is now my current "obsession" of sorts, as it never had been before. I'm thinking of studying it in college. To me, that's pretty life changing, since before I listened to them I didn't know where I wanted to go, study or be!

 

 

But mainly they've just made me more confident with myself, and for me that's the most important thing.

You guys sait it all really :nice: But yeah, I agree with everything posted on here.

 

It might make sense to some to make that Pete bashing thread, and to some extent, it's okey if you have an opinion built upon facts and things you believe in. So, for instance, if someone came on here and said they really don't appreciate their music for X reason (being, I don't know, I don't relate to lyrics for example), that's absolutely acceptable and I respect those kind of opinions. It's constructive criticism and it might lead to some interesting discussion.

 

 

Now, making a new thread to post something that is most likely to be published in the yellow press, that's a whole different thing. First of all, the truth about it all is far from reliable. But that's okey, we've all read at least one thing that was posted on The Sun and believed it. But what I really feel insulting and agressive is when they start being patronising and laughing at me cause they can't see 'what's all the fuss about'. If you're not interested in their music, then that's your business, move on. But you can't be so narrow minded to assume that we're all stupids for liking this band that some junkie decided to mess around with.

 

 

I'm not ashamed to shout out loud how much I love their music, and how I'm constantly discovering myself as I find new stuff for me by them. I'm not ashamed to say I stayed up almost whole nights listening to their albums and finding new sounds and little details that have new meanings everytime I listen to them. So, basically, I love them, and if you don't, sorry to say but I don't really care and that won't change the way I feel about their music. It's you that's missing out but hey, you're probably having a blast with some other band that I haven't discovered yet (or might never do). And that's exactly what's so fascinating about music: DIVERSITY.

 

 

 

 

This thread really means a lot to me, and I know it does to some other people as well, and I know I can always come on here and freely express my thoughts without anyone judging me. And I know too there will always be someone willing to point me in the direction of something interesting, being that a stupid link, a new band, photos or whatever.

 

 

 

 

As regards The Libertines (and after bands), they are yet another band that I'm obsessed about. Yeah. They talk about stuff I can relate to, real things such as love, hate, sex, music, anger, absolute happiness, depression; basically topics I come accross in my everyday life. And just like The Verve (who happen to had a quick moment of fame and then crashed), they felt like real people to me. They fighted, they hated each other and loved each other in the same proportions. They were friends, some still are. They LIVED and showed that through their music. And I'm passionate about that. They weren't afraid to show the world something that wasn't perfect, just because they believed in that with all their selves. And that's something I admire with all my heart. That's what heroes are about for me. But again, I'm just sharing my opinion here, not trying to be some fucking mentor or anything. It's just a viewpoint, so should be taked as such.

As for Pete' date=' I really don't know what all the fuss is about.:rolleyes:[/quote']

 

 

It might make sense to some to make this Pete bashing thread, and to some extent, it's okey if you have an opinion built upon facts and things you believe in. So, for instance, if someone came on the Libs thread and said they really don't appreciate their music for X reason (being, I don't know, I don't relate to lyrics for example), that's absolutely acceptable and I respect those kind of opinions. It's constructive criticism and it might lead to some interesting discussion.

 

 

Now, making a new thread to post something that is most likely to be published in the yellow press, that's a whole different thing. First of all, the truth about it all is far from reliable. But that's okey, we've all read at least one thing that was posted on The Sun and believed it. But what I really feel insulting and agressive is when they start being patronising and laughing at me cause they can't see 'what's all the fuss about'. If you're not interested in their music, then that's your business, move on. But you can't be so narrow minded to assume that we're all stupids for liking this band that some junkie decided to mess around with.

 

 

I'm not ashamed to shout out loud how much I love their music, and how I'm constantly discovering myself as I find new stuff for me by them. I'm not ashamed to say I stayed up almost whole nights listening to their albums and finding new sounds and little details that have new meanings everytime I listen to them. So, basically, I love them, and if you don't, sorry to say but I don't really care and that won't change the way I feel about their music. It's you that's missing out but hey, you're probably having a blast with some other band that I haven't discovered yet (or might never do). And that's exactly what's so fascinating about music: DIVERSITY.

 

 

As regards The Libertines (and after bands), they are yet another band that I'm obsessed about. Yeah. They talk about stuff I can relate to, real things such as love, hate, sex, music, anger, absolute happiness, depression; basically topics I come accross in my everyday life. And just like The Verve (who happen to had a quick moment of fame and then crashed), they felt like real people to me. They fighted, they hated each other and loved each other in the same proportions. They were friends, some still are. They LIVED and showed that through their music. And I'm passionate about that. They weren't afraid to show the world something that wasn't perfect, just because they believed in that with all their selves. And that's something I admire with all my heart. That's what heroes are about for me. But again, I'm just sharing my opinion here, not trying to be some fucking mentor or anything. It's just a viewpoint, so should be taked as such.

And yeah, I just posted that same thing on the Pete HATE thread :laugh4: