Space Invader Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 As long as what you believe is right and it doesn't affect the others. Edit: fixed. Edit 2: But then, maybe if you affect the others you believe you are doing the good thing according to you and.... well I should not think so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonsun Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Whoever believes this deserves to be shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i'maveryneatMonster.' Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I think... That not everybody believes in God. Not talking about myself. Just, many religions, many people. And.. he wants us to do stuff for a reason. Even if we don't agree with him, we have to do those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck kottke Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Why follow God all the time? Why not take the lead once in a while?:P (we are all part of the known Universe; our particles mingled with those from ancient times, had some nice hor devours and mead, and go back all the way to the formative forces that started with the big bang. ) Just honor truth, above all else (and remember to enjoy life once in a while. Even Socrates did!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Invader Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 I think... That not everybody believes in God. Not talking about myself. Just, many religions, many people. And.. he wants us to do stuff for a reason. Even if we don't agree with him, we have to do those things. I dont think you have to believe in God to do the right thing... "right thing" meaning: not to hurt anybody. If you are raised by parents who have never visited a church... dont believe in God... or any kind of spirit entity... and you havent got that education... does that mean that you're automatically going to hell? Any christian here would think so? In my opinion, it doesnt have to do with religion or anything about that... is just... being human... treat people the way you want to be treated.. I feel disgusted by just watching people do things in the name of God, and end up twisting everything to their favor... hypocrisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfit00 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Philosophical threads are my favorite. :sweatdrop: But yeah, and no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 The Israel-Palestine conflict is fought in the name of God. Is it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i'maveryneatMonster.' Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I dont think you have to believe in God to do the right thing... "right thing" meaning: not to hurt anybody. If you are raised by parents who have never visited a church... dont believe in God... or any kind of spirit entity... and you havent got that education... does that mean that you're automatically going to hell? Any christian here would think so? In my opinion, it doesnt have to do with religion or anything about that... is just... being human... treat people the way you want to be treated.. I feel disgusted by just watching people do things in the name of God, and end up twisting everything to their favor... hypocrisy I have no idea.. I was raised like that: Do something wrong -> hell. Do right -> heaven. And well, that last part reminds me of that episode where Chase kills Dibala, saying he did the right thing, and then in confession the priest told him he had no right. It's all.. complicated. obviously you can't hurt people just because you think they're bad. It's.. not human. I think we all need to treat everyone the way we want them to treat us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnspieler1012 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 argh, this could be a fruitful thread if it wasn't so open-ended and asking for trouble. Now its just gonna be chaotic, disconnected bickering. I've recently been exploring theistic existentialism, particularly kierkegaards notion of faith as irrational and truth as subjectivity. But in response to the question, we first have to come to a consensus on 'what it means to follow God' 'if God exists' and if so... 'what does God want?'. Its so open-ended that I don't think anyone can sufficiently address that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 argh, this could be a fruitful thread if it wasn't so open-ended and asking for trouble. Now its just gonna be chaotic, disconnected bickering. I've recently been exploring theistic existentialism, particularly kierkegaards notion of faith as irrational and truth as subjectivity. But in response to the question, we first have to come to a consensus on 'what it means to follow God' 'and what God wants'. Its so open-ended that I don't think anyone can sufficiently address that question. THIS of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Can't be arsed to read previous comments...has anyone brought up Islamic extremism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i'maveryneatMonster.' Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Islamic extremism scares me. Glad to be catholic.. even if I suck at being a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 The Israel-Palestine conflict is fought in the name of God. Is it right? What wars aren't? Humans use any excuse for violence. If God was not believed by anyone men would have wars in the name of other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Can't be arsed to read previous comments...has anyone brought up Islamic extremism? But every religion has extremism. All religions are hyporcritical and all religions have killed many people in the name of their religion. Yes, even Christianity. But that doesn't make any of them bad, it doesn't make them anything. No religion is better than another, it just depends on you. And for the Christians who claim their religion is the only one (all religions do this but I hear it most from Christians), Hinduism and Toaism have been around a heck of a lot longer, so don't assume yours was the original religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck kottke Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Kierkegaards, now there's a road to Norwegianism!:laugh3: God is big daddy (or big mommy, depending on the religion). In the nexus of human experience, if we respect one-another, and work towards the common good, understanding the need for fair play and selflessness to trump selfish desires in the main, but when appropriate self-indulgent behavior is healthy. Best to share the fun, methinks, but times for introspection are important too. It's situational, and subject to the individual - where would we be without those few obsessed individuals, who devote their lives to one purpose? Groups that work together for a common goal? Or generalists, who sample many things, and can put together a larger view for all to enjoy?? To each there is a role to play, and circumstances shape our choices as much as individual decisions do.. And God became the fog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 What wars aren't? Humans use any excuse for violence. If God was not believed by anyone men would have wars in the name of other things. Exactly. In America we 'justify' our wars in other ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i'maveryneatMonster.' Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 And for the Christians who claim their religion is the only one (all religions do this but I hear it most from Christians), Hinduism and Toaism have been around a heck of a lot longer, so don't assume yours was the original religion. Wait.. so you're not Christian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matter-Eater Lad Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Exactly. In America we 'justify' our wars in other ways. Iraq still has wmd's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an angel Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 But every religion has extremism. All religions are hyporcritical and all religions have killed many people in the name of their religion. Yes, even Christianity. But that doesn't make any of them bad, it doesn't make them anything. No religion is better than another, it just depends on you. And for the Christians who claim their religion is the only one (all religions do this but I hear it most from Christians), Hinduism and Toaism have been around a heck of a lot longer, so don't assume yours was the original religion. No duh Christianity isn't the original religion. It's a continuation of Judaism... (can't think of the right way to say that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck kottke Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 What wars aren't? Humans use any excuse for violence. If God was not believed by anyone men would have wars in the name of other things. True - Hitler's Nazis vs. Stalin's so-called Communists is one example where religion wasn't used as an excuse to fight. I think it all boils down to power-hungry individuals co-opting religion and culture to further their aims of control and conquest.. True - it's used as an excuse at times to start a conflict - & a poor one at that. I like the saying "who would Jesus bomb?" - kinda puts it all into perspective.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i'maveryneatMonster.' Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 No duh Christianity isn't the original religion. It's a continuation of Judaism... (can't think of the right way to say that). That's new for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an angel Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 That's new for me. They have the same roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Wait.. so you're not Christian? No. I'm not part of any specific religion, but that's not to say I don't believe in God. I am also knowledgeable in pretty much every major religion and base my life partly on aspects from each. If I had to choose a 'favorite': Hinduism. Iraq still has wmd's... LMAO No duh Christianity isn't the original religion. It's a continuation of Judaism... (can't think of the right way to say that). It actually was a cult that branched off of Judaism and spread like wildfire. That's new for me. Seriously? (see above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i'maveryneatMonster.' Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 They have the same roots. I know, I just never thought of it that way. Anyway, if I was a crappy politician or dictator or whatever, and I really wanted oil, I'd just try to buy or ask for it, I wouldn't kill them just because I found out they have a different religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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