Alternative list is posted - The "Veteran Rankings". And yes it too has flaws of its own

 

http://www.coldplaying.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3949054

 

Here is both lists together with album comparisons at the end as well.

 

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/top_75_coldplay_songs_of_2010/

The Scientist saved my LIFE!

wow, curious change in the top 5/6. Nice to see politik beat out VLV, which has clearly lost popularity.

Agreed. As stated if you only came to forum just to vote you likely aren't really contributing a lot by giving your list and then just leaving.

 

Well here we go......

 

 

 

 

 

#1 The Scientist

 

(2002) [single] + from AROBTTH

 

11,480 points, 190 votes

 

2008 #5

2006 #1

 

 

 

#2 Clocks

 

(2003) [single] and from AROBTTH

 

11,443 points, 183 votes

 

2008 #3

2006 #2

 

 

 

# 3 Fix You

 

(2005) [single] and from X&Y

 

11,385 points, 182 votes

 

2008 #6

2006 n/a

 

 

 

#4 Yellow

 

(2000) [single] and from Parachutes

 

10,969 points, 189 votes

 

2008 #2

2006 #4

 

 

Top 3 were very close to each other so a neck and neck finish.

 

Lovely top 4. I loved the results of this poll, thank you very much Chris's Nuts.

Howz about for whenever the next poll comes along, make the requirement that you have to be a member of coldplaying.com since at least the month before the poll is announced. That way, it doesn't matter how many previous posts someone has, but you're pretty much guaranteed to not have people who came here for the sole reason of posting their votes. For example, if you announce in December of 20xx that you will have a top 50 poll, make the requirement that anyone who votes has to be a member of coldplaying.com on or before November 20xx.

 

Just an idea.

 

No, this is a bad idea, because then you get accounts with 0 posts made before that date giving their lists. Look in the thread where you have to give your lists, there's several of these. It doesn't fix the problem of people just coming here to give their lists and it wouldn't help shape a 'veteran's list' any better than the current system does.

 

Plus 500 posts isn't THAT hard to make if you try hard enough.

 

Not challenging the authenticity or accuracy of this list, but it would be cool to see the list broken down by posts, gender etc.

 

This :nice: but it might be a bit of work.

 

Also I'm mildly happy with the list. It does have quite a few flaws tho.

No, this is a bad idea, because then you get accounts with 0 posts made before that date giving their lists. Look in the thread where you have to give your lists, there's several of these. It doesn't fix the problem of people just coming here to give their lists and it wouldn't help shape a 'veteran's list' any better than the current system does.

 

 

No, see that's the point... as long as they've had the account prior to him even making the announcement, that's what matters. The problem, as you and many of us here have mentioned, is that there were people that only came here to post lists. If people are already members on this site BEFORE the request for lists is even announced, then they were here for other reasons prior to the poll, regardless of how many posts they've had. Sure, it's not hard to get 500 posts if you go to the post whore section and count up to 1000 in less than an hour, so who's to say someone won't do that just to meet the criteria? The point is, people who find out the poll as members here, as opposed to finding out about the poll elsewhere, should be the ones to vote. And you (typically) find out about the poll here if you're already a member here before the announcement, yadda yadda...

which is the real list? im confused

 

can someone post the full list? :lol:

which is the real list? im confused

 

can someone post the full list? :lol:

 

Go to the second link in post 127 above, the list is posted using all of the info, and each one has a notation of how that song ranked in the "veterans" list.

2010 RESULTS

 

1. The Scientist

2. Clocks

3. Fix You

4. Yellow

5. Politik

6. Viva La Vida

7. Life In Technicolor

8. In My Place

9. Lovers In Japan

10. Violet Hill

11. Strawberry Swing

12. Amsterdam

13. Trouble

14. Death And All His Friends

15. Don't Panic

16. Speed Of Sound

17. Shiver

18. God Put A Smile Upon Your Face

19. Swallowed In The Sea

20. 42

21. Talk

22. The Hardest Part

23. A Message

24. Lost!

25. A Rush Of Blood To The Head

26. Green Eyes

27. Glass Of Water

28. Warning Sign

29. Square One

30. Cemeteries Of London

31. Everything's Not Lost

32. See You Soon

33. White Shadows

34. 'Til Kingdom Come

35. Spies

36. Prospekt's March / Poppyfields

37. Sparks

38. Daylight

39. What If

40. Gravity

41. Crests Of Waves

42. X&Y

43. Low

44. Rainy Day

45. Postcards From Far Away.

46. I Ran Away

47. Moses

48. Yes

49. High Speed

50. We Never Change

51. Now My Feet Won't Touch The Ground

52. Parachutes

53. Chinese Sleep Chant

54. One I Love

55. Things I Don't Understand

56. Life Is For Living

57. Sleeping Sun

58. How You See The World

59. The Goldrush

60. Twisted Logic

61. Brothers And Sisters

62. Death Will Never Conquer

63. Ladder To The Sun

64. Reign Of Love

65. The World Turned Upside Down

66. Animals

67. The Escapist

68. Proof

69. A Whisper

70. Only Superstition

71. Bigger Stronger

72. Careful Where You Stand

73. Such A Rush

74. A Spell A Rebel Yell

75. Easy To Please

The Scientist saved my LIFE!

 

lulz

I just remembered - everyone forgot about the beautiful Parachutes B-Side For You. YOU SUCK PEOPLE!!! Damn these new VLV fans! Poo!

 

No, see that's the point... as long as they've had the account prior to him even making the announcement, that's what matters. The problem, as you and many of us here have mentioned, is that there were people that only came here to post lists. If people are already members on this site BEFORE the request for lists is even announced, then they were here for other reasons prior to the poll, regardless of how many posts they've had. Sure, it's not hard to get 500 posts if you go to the post whore section and count up to 1000 in less than an hour, so who's to say someone won't do that just to meet the criteria? The point is, people who find out the poll as members here, as opposed to finding out about the poll elsewhere, should be the ones to vote. And you (typically) find out about the poll here if you're already a member here before the announcement, yadda yadda...

 

There were approx. 77 lists all from accounts that have very few posts (15 or less) and registered during or before Dec 09.

 

There were approx. 20 lists from users that registered in January 2010. (Geez, I hate counting stuff)

 

Note I also counted lists that wouldn't have qualified in the final countings.

 

Therefore, the "problem" itself is NOT that people are registering just to make lists, but coming back simply to post them and then going away again. The 77 people that registered before Jan 2010 with less than 15 posts likely only came back because they were PM'd and notified of PM by email. And I doubt many really think the lists of people with 15 posts or less is fit for a veteran's list.

2010 RESULTS

 

1. The Scientist

2. Clocks

3. Fix You

4. Yellow

5. Politik

6. Viva La Vida

7. Life In Technicolor

8. In My Place

9. Lovers In Japan

10. Violet Hill

11. Strawberry Swing

12. Amsterdam

13. Trouble

14. Death And All His Friends

15. Don't Panic

16. Speed Of Sound

17. Shiver

18. God Put A Smile Upon Your Face

19. Swallowed In The Sea

20. 42

21. Talk

22. The Hardest Part

23. A Message

24. Lost!

25. A Rush Of Blood To The Head

26. Green Eyes

27. Glass Of Water

28. Warning Sign

29. Square One

30. Cemeteries Of London

31. Everything's Not Lost

32. See You Soon

33. White Shadows

34. 'Til Kingdom Come

35. Spies

36. Prospekt's March / Poppyfields

37. Sparks

38. Daylight

39. What If

40. Gravity

41. Crests Of Waves

42. X&Y

43. Low

44. Rainy Day

45. Postcards From Far Away.

46. I Ran Away

47. Moses

48. Yes

49. High Speed

50. We Never Change

51. Now My Feet Won't Touch The Ground

52. Parachutes

53. Chinese Sleep Chant

54. One I Love

55. Things I Don't Understand

56. Life Is For Living

57. Sleeping Sun

58. How You See The World

59. The Goldrush

60. Twisted Logic

61. Brothers And Sisters

62. Death Will Never Conquer

63. Ladder To The Sun

64. Reign Of Love

65. The World Turned Upside Down

66. Animals

67. The Escapist

68. Proof

69. A Whisper

70. Only Superstition

71. Bigger Stronger

72. Careful Where You Stand

73. Such A Rush

74. A Spell A Rebel Yell

75. Easy To Please

 

Also no 1.36... disappointing.

For You > 1.36, but still don't really like either...if it were on my playlist on shuffle, id skip it

I like them :sad: They're good b-sides. They're skippable because they're, well, b-sides.

I just remembered - everyone forgot about the beautiful Parachutes B-Side For You. YOU SUCK PEOPLE!!! Damn these new VLV fans! Poo!

 

 

 

There were approx. 77 lists all from accounts that have very few posts (15 or less) and registered during or before Dec 09.

 

There were approx. 20 lists from users that registered in January 2010. (Geez, I hate counting stuff)

 

Note I also counted lists that wouldn't have qualified in the final countings.

 

Therefore, the "problem" itself is NOT that people are registering just to make lists, but coming back simply to post them and then going away again. The 77 people that registered before Jan 2010 with less than 15 posts likely only came back because they were PM'd and notified of PM by email. And I doubt many really think the lists of people with 15 posts or less is fit for a veteran's list.

 

I agree with what you're saying except for one little adjustment... Nuts announced the poll in December, so the little 'membership' rule I proposed would mean someone would need to be a member during or before NOVEMBER, not December. So, if you take out the December 2009 people from the 77 people you noted above, then I agree with you that "net" list would be the "problem" people potentially skewing the results (in addition to the December 2009 and January 2010 people, of course). Basically, the half-arse fans.

^ :rolleyes5: Wuuuut?

Hmm. Ok, so it would be about equal then, maybe a bit more for people joining in December. That could work, it would take out about half of the total sum of 97. We could also add a small post count limit to fix up the other half so people who didn't qualify for vet's list this year don't complain next time.

 

(I just had a thought, this is all for vet's list, not general top list, yes? My brain no work today.)

Well that sucks

QUOTE]YOU SUCK PEOPLE!!! Damn these new VLV fans! Poo!

 

hey, why are you abusing VLV fans? ...

Look at the results of 2008 .. and then 2009 ... VLV is loosing the crown ..

And I don't like the ranking, cause it full of "greatest hits" ( but I can take it) and it's not apparently VLV fans blame

 

I'm so dissapointed about Politik :( (declining tendency)

Not a big fan of The Scientist :\

Amsterdam should have been on the top 5.

nahh scientist is absolutely incredible

what? ONE I LOVE #54!!!! Boulderdash BULL CRAP MOTHER EFFER FUCKITY FUCK NO WAY this song is soooo beautiful, how can this be?

:lol:I agree!

ok we are to the Pre-Top 40

 

 

#41 Crest of Waves

 

b-side to Clocks (2003) [single]

 

3,049 points, 75 votes

 

2008 #33

2006 #30

 

 

 

:stunned::disappointed:

 

 

poor Moses, now im really depressed

I know! I love Moses!!!

#31 Everything´s Not Lost

 

From Parachutes (2000)

 

4,542 points, 107 votes

 

2008 #27

2006 #22

 

 

#33 White Shadows

 

From X&Y (2005)

 

3,975 points, 99 votes

 

2008 #40

2006 #18

aaw these should be higher!!!

 

 

#25 A Rush of Blood to the Head

 

From A Rush of Blood to the Head (2002)

 

6,421 points, 134 votes

 

2008 #14

2006 #10

 

 

 

 

:o

Hey Nuts...

 

I'm not trying to be picky, but it's 'Cemeteries' not 'Cementeries'. (no 'n')

:laugh3:

 

Not liking this list.

your sig...made me...:sick::lol:

 

 

 

Here we go....

 

#9 Lovers in Japan

 

(2008) [single] and from Viva la Vida

 

8,792 points, 160 votes

 

2008 #8

2006 n/a

 

 

 

#10 Violet Hill

 

(2008) [single] and from Viva la Vida

 

8,766 points 172 votes

 

2008 #9

2006 n/a

oo I like this part of the list!

 

Lovers in Japan and LiT(ii) should've been higher... I just hope for VLV on something 4-5ish. And is Fix You also somewhere in the top 6? I hope not.

yeah I agree lit and lij should've been in the top 5!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

#1 The Scientist

 

(2002) [single] + from AROBTTH

 

11,480 points, 190 votes

 

2008 #5

2006 #1

 

 

 

#2 Clocks

 

(2003) [single] and from AROBTTH

 

11,443 points, 183 votes

 

2008 #3

2006 #2

 

 

 

# 3 Fix You

 

(2005) [single] and from X&Y

 

11,385 points, 182 votes

 

2008 #6

2006 n/a

 

 

 

#4 Yellow

 

(2000) [single] and from Parachutes

 

10,969 points, 189 votes

 

2008 #2

2006 #4

 

 

Top 3 were very close to each other so a neck and neck finish.

:D nice!

It looks like I don't have enough posts to be a veteran.

YOU SUCK PEOPLE!!! Damn these new VLV fans! Poo!

 

hey, why are you abusing VLV fans? ...

Look at the results of 2008 .. and then 2009 ... VLV is loosing the crown ..

And I don't like the ranking, cause it full of "greatest hits" ( but I can take it) and it's not apparently VLV fans blame

 

I'm so dissapointed about Politik :( (declining tendency)

 

Oh wow, one song from that album dropped down. :dozey:

 

Also, I am not abusing VLV fans, "you suck people" was directed at anyone who has not educated themselves with the Parachutes b-sides + early songs. There are gems! There is no excuse, even I listened to them all and I have the worst internet connection on the forum.

How a song is played live, or whether or not its on the setlist hugely impacts these lists. Nobody gave a damn about The Hardest Part until they fell in love with the acoustic version, and it flies up about 20 spots. Similar with Lovers In Japan and the butterfly hysteria.

 

On a distantly related note, Shiver desperately needs to get back into the setlist, it's a single, a fan-fave and it hasn't been a solid part of the set for almost 7 years.