stupid? when they go agaisnt core teaching of jesus,

how can they be the same as him? i guess you can say they are

christians, like i can say the terrorist muslims are muslims. but when

it comes down to it, they dont follow the teaching of the quran, and

the catholic church doesnt follow what jesus preached. but i guess its

stupid to say people who dont follow what jesus wanted are not

christians. :rolleyes:

ill use simple words for you....if the "muslim" terrorist do not follow

islam then they are not truly muslims...still with me? so if catholics

do not follow what jesus taught and in many key area's go agaisnt it,

they are not truly christians.....lets hope we all learned something

today! I hope you were able to follow, i made it as simple as possible.

But if you want to get more complex, Catholicism is more like a

pseudo-christianity. its similar but not quite the same.

i would advise you to learn before you speak. i have said it a million

times, i dont watch fox news often. my main new sources are european.

the only american news i watch alot of are the cbs and nbc nightly news

and msnbc.....so please before you open your mouth, know what the fuck

you are talking about. It's childish to do othewise.

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 First of, don't patronise me!

I guess you've devoted your entire life to theology, which entitles you to make such "smart statements".

And I don't get it why you keep comparing it to "real Muslim" and terrorism?!

Only comparation could be that Catholics are part of Christianity just as Sunni's are part of Islam.

Next time give us a link or something, 'cuz I'm tired of this nonsense.

And pardon me but I've had religious ed. for 8 years, mister "learn before you speak".

a jew that isnt a jew, is simply a jew that doesnt see himself as jewish. That's individual. Technically, there are laws that define who is and sint jewish- it was something that has been a conflict during the years trying to define who is jewish. I learned about this in the 10th, and they decided that a jew is:

-someone born to a jewish mother (not father, unlike christianity. It's the mother because u can only know for sure that the mother is the real mother, unlike the father)

- someone who converted (following certain guidelines I'm guessing, that I'm not really familiar with. There are so many kinds of Judaism these days, that u could find ppl who would tell u very different ways of converting).

 

and about that strap, it is only for boys. It's called "Tfilin". I know men do this alot, ever since they're 13 and have a Bar Mitsva. But I dont know much about that. Maybe Matan knows more...i feel stupid. I dont know too much about my religion because i'm very non religious

Thanks, Matan also sent me the answer about Tfilin in a pm.

your avatar brings laughter to an otherwise gloomy thread. the skater mouse is brilliant!

some people have to admit that the powers that be, due to old school thinking that the arabs near isreal are treated the same way as the jews were in the 2nd world war... but as ever they will always have a excuse... to justify it. I think the nazis used to use the same agurment....

Sorry but jews are a race. people try to make them not so their dislike and hatred of them wont seem as bad....its a way of making it seem not as evil. like if i were to say black people werent a race and then when i was "racist" towards them i wouldnt actually be racist......its a common thing humans do, to shush that annoying conscience of theirs......truly sad, but truly human.

 

similar things were done with slaves, they werent viewed as truly human, so when people mistreated them and were racist people didnt feel as guilty about it. truly sad.

 

btw smart people are special. sorry you're not special, but im sure your parents think so...:)

 

 

my parents are dead....for all you know. Leave them out of this....

 

Comparing blacks to Jews is completely irrelevant!! Black is a race! Jewish is a religion. People connotate is to be a race because they feel like and are thinking back to the days when we were all one... (as green eyes has stated)--- Where the hell do you get your reasoning?? "....its a way of making it seem not as evil. like if i were to say black people werent a race and then when i was "racist" towards them i wouldnt actually be racist......" <--- thats the most stupidest thing I have heard..... ever!! Racsism is racsim not matter how you slice it... its hate!! Period!! The reason its called racism is because its hate toward a RACE!!!!! It doesn't apply towards religious beliefs..... :rolleyes: which is what Judaism is... get a clue you brainwashed child!!!

 

you're the disgrace to the American people.. whats sad is that people in the world actually think all of America is like you.... closed minded and judgemental...

 

why don't you learn to shut your trap when you should, and speak only when it pretains to you. You have no idea what its like to live in a warzone or run for your life because you have literally minutes to take cover from an incoming bomb... whether it be an Israeli bomb or one launched by Hezbollah..... we have no right to dicatate what these people are suffering from and how they should do things...

 

bottom line.. the situation isn't going to get any better soon over there.. and it definitely isn't about to get any safer over here if something isn't done.

I think all these discussions should now stop its not healthly for this board

some people have to admit that the powers that be' date=' due to old school thinking that the arabs near isreal are treated the same way as the jews were in the 2nd world war... but as ever they will always have a excuse... to justify it. I think the nazis used to use the same agurment....[/quote']

 

if there's something that pisses me off it's when ppl say that israel is treating the arabs in israel like the natzis treated the jews during world war 2. ppl who say that obviously dont know any history and are completely ignorant.

How can they compare death camps and the death of 6,000,000 ppl to ANY government discrimination??

 

Last year my school had this project and we all went to Nazerat and met with an arab school, and the kids there hosted us in their homes and everything. I think it's a good idea, because it was tons of fun and we really got along well. However, the next day we had some political discussions, and that didnt go too well. Some of the arabs claimed what u said (about the nazis), and that went too far, even their teachers told them to stop saying that. Obviously they didnt know what they were talking about.

And they kept saying there was alot of discrimination, and when we asked "What we get as jews in israel that u dont??". And they had nothing to say. They are arabs that have an israeli citizenship, so they get full rights like us...

I think all these discussions should now stop its not healthly for this board

 

why? It got me abit upset, but it's not like I hate all the ppl I disagree with

 

we can all just agree to disagree.

 

I think it's also very imprortant to hear other thoughts other than ur own, it does open your mind abit. It has opened mine, anyways.

I think all these discussions should now stop its not healthly for this board

 

 

its public forum... deal.

some people have to admit that the powers that be' date=' due to old school thinking that the arabs near isreal are treated the same way as the jews were in the 2nd world war... but as ever they will always have a excuse... to justify it. I think the nazis used to use the same agurment....[/quote']

 

^ second most stupidest thing I have read today....

why ????

because- do u even know what happenned with the nazis that u would think that?

because- do u even know what happenned with the nazis that u would think that?

 

yes I do and they were treated very badly...

 

However, I could go and on about how the Palestians are treated.... and draw simiarlites to how they are currently being treated as we speak... but its seems some of the world chose to be blind to this.

 

I

please elaborate...

 

i really wanna see how u prove this point, since it's completely ridiculas

why ????

 

 

are they in concentration camps? Are they putting them in gas chambers and killing the women and children first? Are they being ransacked out of their homes and put to work in camps?? I haven't heard any of these reports.... besides... THAT WAS WW2!!! I am so tired of all these comparisons to WW2.... that was a completely different situtation!!!!

No not that extreme however Ghettos are being used over there... plus people are not being treated as humans.

"not that extreme"- so how can u even compare?

 

There are no ghettos, no designanted ereas were all the arabs are out in unbelievable density were there are 10 ppl living in one room, living off one loaf of bread per day, and dieing of deseases. Or being shot when they try to escape. You really shouldnt compare.

look at this: http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/online/phistories/

my grandmother was in Bergen Belzen. It's described under "camps".

 

and u say they "arent treated like humans". Explain yourself, prove your point, you cant say something without basing it on anything.

I will do when I have more time... but I am sure if u check some of the archive stories on the bbc website some truths will be found..

if u say so... i just cant imagine how u could come to such a conclution. It's very it's very extreme to think that. It's even too exaggerated if u wanna raise sympathy for the plestinians. Saying they're going through a similiar holocaust is a flat out lie

I am not trying to raise sypathy.... I am just concerned that media tends to side with Isrealis.... and its a pity the people of palestine are being branded as terroists... when all they are doing is fighting to be alive....

 

Its a horrible postion to be, when your only option is to take the action that some people have to do... however if I had a brother of 2 years old and he was shot for just playing football. Then my sister was shot, and I was not allowed to protest agasint it because of the fear of further repression I think I would be drawn into such acts.

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 First of, don't patronise me!

I guess you've devoted your entire life to theology, which entitles you to make such "smart statements".

And I don't get it why you keep comparing it to "real Muslim" and terrorism?!

Only comparation could be that Catholics are part of Christianity just as Sunni's are part of Islam.

Next time give us a link or something, 'cuz I'm tired of this nonsense.

And pardon me but I've had religious ed. for 8 years, mister "learn before you speak".

 

No, but i happen to be surrounded by theologist, who have spent their whole lives studying this type of stuff.

 

8 years eh? iv have it for 18.

are they in concentration camps? Are they putting them in gas chambers and killing the women and children first? Are they being ransacked out of their homes and put to work in camps?? I haven't heard any of these reports.... besides... THAT WAS WW2!!! I am so tired of all these comparisons to WW2.... that was a completely different situtation!!!!

 

sadly you will never realize how much ww2 relates to today....its not a different situation at all. and people who think so are only hurting themselves.

I am not trying to raise sypathy.... I am just concerned that media tends to side with Isrealis.... and its a pity the people of palestine are being branded as terroists... when all they are doing is fighting to be alive....

 

Its a horrible postion to be, when your only option is to take the action that some people have to do... however if I had a brother of 2 years old and he was shot for just playing football. Then my sister was shot, and I was not allowed to protest agasint it because of the fear of further repression I think I would be drawn into such acts.

 

 

what are you smoking? the media this whole time has spent almost all of its time on the few dead innocent lebaonese and attacking israel....the world media by far, specialy in europe (big surprise) are siding with lebanon. the only station otherwise would be like foxnews in america.

I am not trying to raise sypathy.... I am just concerned that media tends to side with Isrealis.... and its a pity the people of palestine are being branded as terroists... when all they are doing is fighting to be alive....

 

Its a horrible postion to be, when your only option is to take the action that some people have to do... however if I had a brother of 2 years old and he was shot for just playing football. Then my sister was shot, and I was not allowed to protest agasint it because of the fear of further repression I think I would be drawn into such acts.

 

 

Yes I can see what you're trying to say..

but I disagree with you!!! You cannot compare the present situation with the Palestinians to the holocaust!!! The jews were forced to die!!! Here we don't do it and will never do!!! We are not animals like the nazees!! Israel only wants to live in peace here in our country, we don't kill them one by one!! HOW CAN YOU COMPARE?!?! It's the most idiotic thing I've read in the forum ever..(I am here only 3-4 days)

If we stop trying to arrest/kill the terrorists there, we will die here in suicide bombings everyday!! I know it's hard for you to see it of couse, what can I do?

what are you smoking? the media this whole time has spent almost all of its time on the few dead innocent lebaonese and attacking israel....the world media by far' date=' specialy in europe (big surprise) are siding with lebanon. the only station otherwise would be like foxnews in america.[/quote']

 

 

what are YOU smoking!!!?? lol I haven't seen any media that sympathizes with Lebonon... actually, the numbers don't lie, so if thats bias reporting... stop watching FOX News and pick up a newspaper for once... lol

 

Actually.. in the tv media's defense.. CNN seems to have the most unbiased coverage I have seen.

 

sadly you will never realize how much ww2 relates to today....its not a different situation at all. and people who think so are only hurting themselves.

 

:rolleyes: simmadown little boy.. you have yet to learn. 18 years huh... you've been learning about politics since you were 1 yrs old??!! You're a miracle of modern day marvel! :laugh3: