July 25, 200620 yr what are YOU smoking!!!?? lol I haven't seen any media that sympathizes with Lebonon... actually, the numbers don't lie, so if thats bias reporting... stop watching FOX News and pick up a newspaper for once... lol Actually.. in the tv media's defense.. CNN seems to have the most unbiased coverage I have seen. :rolleyes: simmadown little boy.. you have yet to learn. 18 years huh... you've been learning about politics since you were 1 yrs old??!! You're a miracle of modern day marvel! :laugh3: Cammile i ask you for the last time, pay attention. i said i dont watch foxnews often, my main source of news is european news....get with the program. cnn has been the MOST biased on this. good try though, but it doesnt surprise me you'd try to say that. p.s. if you use the whole age thing, there are 70 year olds who agree with me...so if you're gonna try that then i guess it really doesnt make a difference.
July 25, 200620 yr I think you're the one who should pay attention... Biased?? How?? They've been talking on both sides of the border and showing both sides of the story...... how are they unbiased??? Why don't you read AC360's blog.... tell me how its biased... lol European news, eh lol funny YOU should watch the BBC... lol --they're more towards the liberal side!! :lol:
July 25, 200620 yr I think you're the one who should pay attention... Biased?? How?? They've been talking on both sides of the border and showing both sides of the story...... how are they unbiased??? Why don't you read AC360's blog.... tell me how its biased... lol European news, eh lol funny YOU should watch the BBC... lol --they're more towards the liberal side!! :lol: If you'd actually pay attention for once. i said you have to read from both sides and all over the world. i get my news from liberal and conservative sources and other types. from europe america and the middle east.
July 25, 200620 yr when did you say this??? lol :laugh3: I should pay attention!! More than half of your stuff is shite... you don't even consider the 'other sides' stories lol and how is CNN biased.. please.. school me oh wise one... :lol:
July 25, 200620 yr when did you say this??? lol :laugh3: I should pay attention!! More than half of your stuff is shite... you don't even consider the 'other sides' stories lol and how is CNN biased.. please.. school me oh wise one... :lol: i consider and listen to both sides, you cannot know the truth without doing that. its more then you do.
July 25, 200620 yr i consider and listen to both sides' date=' you cannot know the truth without doing that. its more [b']then [/b]you do. proper English would indicate that you meant 'than'.... ;) ..........and once again Cap'n Knowitall... you would be wrong about me.. but I'm not going to kill more braincells of mine on this debate with you beacuse I think you're a nob. :kiss: Good Day! *tips hat*
July 25, 200620 yr proper English would indicate that you meant 'than'.... ;) ..........and once again Cap'n Knowitall... you would be wrong about me.. but I'm not going to kill more braincells of mine on this debate with you beacuse I think you're a nob. :kiss: Good Day! *tips hat* Hey, dont take out your anger on me. i didnt make you become ignorant.
July 25, 200620 yr No, but i happen to be surrounded by theologist, who have spent their whole lives studying this type of stuff. 8 years eh? iv have it for 18. I don't really know what to say to you anymore, except how about you prove your statements.
July 25, 200620 yr ^don't hold your breath.... lol waiting for him to prove statements.. pfft! You'd have a better chance of running into Chris Martin at a restaurant loo!
July 25, 200620 yr I don't really know what to say to you anymore' date=' except how about you prove your statements.[/quote'] ok, let me go consult my sources and get back with you on this.
July 26, 200620 yr ok enough I see that this thread is off, wayyyyy off the topic so I suggest we close it?? ok I can't make any choises but I suggest it.. bye
July 26, 200620 yr Bazooka Joe is off today... you might need another source..... C'mon camille, i dont wanna use your source, that would be cheap.:stunned:
July 26, 200620 yr *plunk* U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan says the strike was deliberate.... :stunned: (the strike on the UN post)
July 26, 200620 yr I don't really know what to say to you anymore' date=' except how about you prove your statements.[/quote'] prove my statements? Ok but only since you asked;) many core teachings of the catholic church go against the bible and what god wanted. In comparing Roman Catholicism with the Word of God, there are many differences and contradictions. The Roman Catholic church teaches many doctrines that are in disagreement with what the Bible says. These include worship of saints or Mary, prayer to saints or Mary, the pope / papacy, justification by faith plus works, infant baptism, transubstantiation, and purgatory. While Catholics claim Scriptural support for these concepts, none of these teachings have any foundation in the clear teaching of Scripture. In fact, they all clearly contradict what the Bible declares. The most crucial of these is the Roman Catholic belief that faith in Christ alone is not enough to save a person. The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that a person must believe in Jesus Christ AND be baptized AND receive Catholic communion AND obey the decrees of the Roman Catholic Church AND etc., etc., etc. Catholic divergence from the Bible on this most crucial of issues means that yes, Catholicism is a false religion. If a person believes what the Catholic Church officially teaches, he/she will not be saved. At the same time, there are believers who attend Roman Catholic Churches. There are many Roman Catholics who have genuinely placed their faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. Catholic Christians remain in the Catholic church out of ignorance of what the Catholic church truly stands for, out of family tradition, or out of a desire to reach Catholics for Christ. However, these Catholic Christians are believers despite what the Catholic Church teaches, not because of what it teaches. To varying degrees, the Catholic church teaches the Bible and points people to Jesus Christ as the Savior. As a result, people are sometimes saved in Catholic churches (Isaiah 55:11). At the same time, the Catholic church also leads many people away from a genuine faith relationship with Christ. The Roman Catholic Church is not the church that Jesus Christ established. It is not a church that is based on the teachings of the Apostles. http://www.gotquestions.org/catholicism.html "Are Catholic beliefs and practices Biblical?" Answer: The issue concerning any church and its practices is “Is this scriptural?” If a teaching is scriptural (taken in context), it should be embraced. If it is not, it should be rejected. God is a whole lot more interested in whether a church is doing His will than whether they can trace their “lineage” back to Christ’s time (Matthew 12:48-50). Jesus is very concerned that we do not change our focus from the word of God to following the traditions of men (Mark 7:7). How then does the Word of God compare with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church? Let’s look at a few issues: Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that one is saved by baptismal regeneration and remains saved unless he commits a sinful act that removes him from the state of sanctifying grace (theft of a large amount, failure to attend church and receive the Eucharist for an extended period of time, etc.). The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), and that good works are the result of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (John 15). Eternal Security: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that one CANNOT know for certain that he is saved and on his way to heaven. 1 John 5:13 states that the letter of 1 John was written just so that one would know for certain that he is saved. Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that we are saved by works (baptismal regeneration) and that we maintain our salvation by good works (receiving communion, church attendance, saying confession, etc.). The Bible states that we are saved apart from works, by grace through faith, and totally apart from works (Titus 3:5; Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians 3:10-11; Romans 3:19-24). Baptism: In the New Testament baptism is ALWAYS practiced after one places his faith in Christ and is not a means of salvation; it is faith in the gospel that saves (1 Corinthians 1:14-18; Romans 10:13-17). But the Roman Catholic Church teaches baptismal regeneration of infants, a practice never found in Scripture. Note: The Roman Catholic Church sometimes notes that the whole household of the Philippian jailer was baptized in Acts 16:33. But you will note how Paul answered the question of how a person is saved in Acts 16:31 and then note that Paul spoke to all of the household in verse 32 and the whole household was believing (verse 34). Thus, this passage only supports the baptism of those who have already believed, not of infants. Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches its members to not only pray to God but also to Mary and to the saints. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (Matthew 6:9; Luke 18:1-7; etc.). Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9). Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that we receive grace when we receive the sacraments of the church. But such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture. Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless we are hindered from doing so by some means beyond our control, the only way to have our sins forgiven is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, scripture teaches that we can confess our sins to God for forgiveness (1 John 1:9) and to also confess our sins one to another so that we can be strengthened in our battle against sin (James 5:16). Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church are given to her in scripture, and the idea of her being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man are not only extra-biblical (found only outside of scripture) but are also unbiblical (contrary to scripture) (Acts 4:12; 1 Timothy 2:5). Eucharist: The question here is whether or not to take Christ’s words “this is my body” literally. As a former Catholic, I too once held to the belief that the bread and wine were actually changed into Christ’s body and blood, but upon examination of the context of those statements believe that they are not changed, but that the Eucharist is a memorial service alone. Looking at church history, you find that there was a group called the Anabaptists who were around before Luther’s lead in the Protestant movement. It is the contention of many that there have always been those who have separated from “the church” because of its refusal to order itself according to the Bible. Sometimes those who separate are wrong, teaching heresy. But sometimes it is not those who remain in the church who are right but those who are thrown out (3 John 9-11)! Paul says that we are to separate from those who walk in error (2 Corinthians 6:14-18), either the error of ungodly living (1 Corinthians 5; 2 Thessalonians 3:6) or the error of ungodly teaching (1 Timothy 6:3-5; 2 Timothy 3:5; Acts 20:29-30; Romans 16:17). And it is the scripture that is to be the means of our choosing the right path to salvation (Acts 20:31-32; 2 Timothy 3:15). What does Scripture say (Romans 4:3; Galatians 4:30; Acts 17:10)? That is to be our guideline. “So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified” (Acts 20:32 NKJV). "Is prayer to saints / Mary Biblical?" Answer: The Bible nowhere instructs believers in Christ to pray to anyone other than God. Why, then, do many Catholic pray to Mary and/or pray to "saints"? Catholics view Mary and saints as "intercessors" before God. They believe that a saint, who is in Heaven, has more "direct access" to God than we do. Therefore, if a saint delivers a prayer to God, it is more effective than us praying to God directly. This concept is blatantly unbiblical. Hebrews 4:16 tells us that we (not saints) can "...approach the throne of grace with confidence..." 1 Timothy 2:5 declares, "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." There is no one else that can mediate with God for us. If Jesus is the only mediator, that indicates Mary and saints cannot be mediators. They cannot mediate our prayer requests to God. Further, the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ Himself is interceding for us before the Father, "Therefore He is able to save completely those who come to God through Him, because He always lives to intercede for them" (Hebrews 7:25). With Jesus Himself interceding for us, why would we need Mary or the saints to intercede for us? Who would God listen to more closely than His Son? Romans 8:26-27 describes the Holy Spirit interceding for us. With the 2nd and 3rd members of the Trinity already interceding for us before the Father in Heaven, what possible need could there be to have Mary or the saints interceding for us? Catholics argue that praying to Mary and the saints is no different than asking someone here on earth to pray for you. Let us examine that claim. (1) The Apostle Paul asks other Christians to pray for him in Ephesians 6:19. Many Scriptures describe believers praying for one another (2 Corinthians 1:11; Ephesians 1:16; Philippians 1:19; 2 Timothy 1:3). The Bible nowhere mentions anyone asking for someone in Heaven to pray for them. The Bible nowhere describes anyone in Heaven praying for anyone on earth. (2) The Bible gives absolutely no indication that Mary or the saints can hear our prayers. Mary and the saints are not omniscient. How could they possibly hear the prayers of millions of people? Whenever the Bible mentions praying to or speaking with the dead, it is in the context of sorcery, witchcraft, and divination - activities the Bible strongly condemns (Leviticus 20:27; Deuteronomy 18:10-13). The one instance when a "saint" is spoken to, Samuel in 1 Samuel 28:7-19, Samuel was not exactly happy to be disturbed. It is plainly clear that praying to Mary or the saints is completely different from asking someone here on earth to pray for you. One has a strong Biblical basis, the other has no Biblical basis whatsoever. There is absolutely no basis or need to pray to anyone other than God alone. Only God can hear our prayers. Only God can answer our prayers. No one in Heaven has any greater access to God's throne that we do through prayer, Let us then come directly to God through Jesus' work on the cross of Calvary, not only for salvation, but also for our needs as well (Hebrews 4:14).
July 26, 200620 yr I assume you arent catholic? I'm evangelic not very religious though but i was told that according to the bible we arent suppose to pray or worship images or such like catholic religion do so that was enver clear for me but that post above was interesting. But i do respect other religions and its all about faith so i have no problem with that but there are just so many questions floating around and nothing certain hmm
July 26, 200620 yr if you want to be catholic be catholic, its fine with me. but i hate when people call a religion like that christian when it goes agaisnt the core teachings of christianity and what jesus taught. just like these muslims terrorist views go agaisnt what true islam is and what the quran teaches. athough in my beliefs islam is a false religion, i do realize the terrorist arent really following it.
July 26, 200620 yr The term christian means that you believe in Jesus Christ , if you do then you're a christian even if you're catholic, protestant, or whatever. In the end we all will die and religion wont save us but our faith ( if you belioeve in christ that is) . I dont think any other religion is like everyone wants to put it here as 'evil' ,religion is suppsoed to be something spiritual and sacred and make you feel closer to god and be a better person so i dont think any religion is something bad or fake, but i do believe that people are using religion to manipulate and kill others in the name of their god which is terrible and a shame and this comes from centuries ago among christian religion as well.
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