Are you suggesting he should be named Brian Ego??:rolleyes:

 

lol...correct me if I'm wrong, but the British press already did years ago!:lol:

 

Just because Eno's producing doesn't mean we should automatically assume the album will be 'electronic'. ENo's a master of blending the electronic and the organic. Besides Talking Heads and U2, he's also worked with Bowie, James, Peter Gabriel, Depeche Mode, Daniel Lanois, Roxy Music (lest we forget)...the list is endless, and they're not all Robert Fripp-esque electronic records.

ermmm guys, i just got a txt from the company and it said:

 

NME:Brian is not producing the new Coldplay Album.

 

ouch :sick:

I was posting while you were, so I misses this...ARE YOU SURE??? WHich company is that, Will? *tries not to cry*

doubt you heard of it, its called Orange. but all the news they send me are always corrent.

Well if it's true it's great news! I look forward to hearing the new stuff!

ermmm guys, i just got a txt from the company and it said:

 

NME:Brian is not producing the new Coldplay Album.

 

ouch :sick:

mmm I just listened to his interview on Radio 4 and he said he was "working with Coldplay producing their next record". :confused: I would tend to trust news from the horse's mouth over second hand news from any companies. ;)

Well, if it's not happenning, that was fast. Why would Eno anounce it on the BBC if the deal wasn't carved in stone? I hope Orange is wrong just this once.:o

Yeah... I wouldn't be too certain with that yet.

Wow wow wow!

Well, if it's not happenning, that was fast. Why would Eno anounce it on the BBC if the deal wasn't carved in stone? I hope Orange is wrong just this once.:o

 

Well does Eno, or not??:rolleyes:

Well does Eno, or not??:rolleyes:

 

He should...he's supposed to be the brians of the operation,lol.

Please people... stop with the puns. *Wince*

Haha, you guys are crazy :freak: ...

Haha, you guys are crazy :freak: ...

 

So has the Eno landed, or not??:rolleyes:

all i want is their music to keep on improving as it has done so far, GOD THEY'RE EXCELLENT!!!

 

im sure Brian Eno will do great ;)

Pretty exciting news. Eno was one of the big factors in finding U2's and Talking Heads key sound. I think he can do that with Coldplay.

One thing that they need to change is X&Y was too overproduced, too glossy, too pretty all the way around. Eno help with that. He'll get them to their potential.

 

I hope they experiment with some electronic sounds and such.

I also hope they darken it up a bit.

That way the bright spots are that much brighter.

but what can he do about the lyrics? :\

^ Fudge, I think the circumstances surrounding this album are so mind-boggingly different, that I don't think there will be a problem with the lyrcis.

Well said. When I first heard Coldplay, they were alternative. Now that they're a mainstream band, everyone is copying their sound...including them,lol.:lol: It's refreshing to see them moving into new territory. And, as I've said on here a hundred times, a band has to keep experimenting with their music...otherwise it becomes boring for them. And no matter how important we, the fans are to them, no matter how much they 'owe' us for their success, the needs of the artist have to come first.

 

I'd love to be a fly on the wall for these sessions...Chris and Brian are both notorious control freaks...should be some interesting conversations taking place!:)

 

But Eno is not "alternative" music. Coldplay is not and was never "alternative" either, they were just marketed that way in the US because all music based on guitars is considered alternative now. Anyway, that's why this is brilliant news. Coldplay has a brilliant POP album in them, one that isn't sluggish and verging on supermarkety-depressing like bits of the last one... I think Eno could help them make it. Let's not assume Eno means "weird". That's only one side of him- remember he may have done Passengers with U2, but he also did "Pride (in the Name of Love)", "Beautiful Day" and "One". I don't think Coldplay could ever succeed at being weird, but hopefully they can be exciting again, like the riff of "Yellow" or "Shiver" or the emotion in Chris' voice on Rush of Blood. Or even "Square One", "Low", "White Shadows", "A Message", the standout tracks on the highly average X&Y. Coldplay is most exciting simplicity. Songs like "Twisted Logic" and especially "Speed of Sound" were just trying too hard to be complex, though they had a few good elements in them.

 

Coldplay has already "gone electronic", ever since Parachutes, which was unusual for a big pop/rock album in being so "organic" sounding. They had "Clocks" and then most of X&Y was very synth based. So it's obvious they made a decision to move that way- electronics are not automatically a sign of "trying to do a Kid A", they are just an integral part of all types of popular music today. X&Y is in fact much more electronic than Radiohead's third album OK Computer was. Now Coldplay will probably use them in a more instantly accessible way, with or without (lol) Eno. For example some people might call Coldplay's use of electronics on X&Y "selling out" as the synths are often pretty bland and even cheesy, whereas the synth in "Warning Sign" (or pick any song from OK Computer) definitely adds a bit more musical depth to that song.

 

Ok so Eno hasn't done any notable pop productions in a few years (Paul Simon's Surprise=not so great) but even listening to U2's ATYCLB album from 2000 and comparing it to their more recent (mostly horrible) album, you can see the subtlety that Eno brought to U2's sound, while being very POP (not like the Pop album!) at the same time. The Joshua Tree is a bit overrated as far as songs- U2 have written better ones at times- but put on headphones, listen to the SOUND of it and it never gets old no matter how much that sound is ripped off now by every last Christian rock band. And ok, that album was more Lanois maybe. But he was a disciple of Eno. Eno believes in minimalism (if you are not sure what the word means, listen to the last minute of Where the Streets Have No Name or With or Without You). The point is Eno has done massively accessible multimultimillion selling albums that still made new rules instead of doing what was being done at the time. All of it is "experimental", or was when he first tried it. That doesn't mean the result is going to sound bizarre and alien. If Coldplay tried to do songs like "King's Lead Hat", "Jocko Homo" and "Born Under Punches", or even like "Daddy's Gonna Pay for Your Crashed Car" (which kinda sucks anyway- tho I love ZOoropa), it just wouldn't work out. That is not Chris' personality. There was always alienation in Thom Yorke even when he just had a guitar. Bono always had a mean streak to get you to pay attention (would Coldplay throw a brick through a window? um I don't think so. Chris couldn't even manage to actually burn down that house).

 

Coldplay is a different kind of band for better or worse. I wouldn't mind a "Heroes" or "Zoo Station" from them though. Chris needs some more sharp edges to sing against- "Low" had those, even though it sounded almost like a cover version of something on Achtung Baby. Their songs could also use more pop simplicity and focus on the rhythm- as in White Shadows, which is already very Tears for Fears, i.e. very Eno, because Tears for Fears were trying to copy Peter Gabriel's third album which was trying to copy Eno and German electronic sound.

 

For everyone talking about Radiohead, here's what Thom Yorke has to say about so-called alternative:

 

"Alternative rock needs bludgeoning to death on a big stick and left on a bridge to warn passers-by."

 

Thank f*** Coldplay doesn't pretend to be alternative anymore. It's the main thing they have going for them, compared to bands like the Arcade Fire which are no more "original" yet get cred from indie kids just for being non-mainstream. Chris Martin seems really into appearing on hip-hop and r&B albums and all that. While I can't say the rap style fits his strengths AT ALL, it is a good populist attitude from him as his band is also doing mass accessible pop music. Without adopting some pretentious wannabe hip-hop sound (Eno isn't exactly so up on that, is he?) this next album could strip them down to the melodic/rhytmic essentials so their songs sound better on the radio. X&Y I find only sounds decent on headphones (decent, not particularly good) but pretty damn annoying as singles, so whiny and bombastically bland.

 

Funny thing about that, Radiohead's new album may also be a bit more mainstream, minimalist and melodic than usual for them. I suppose it depends what Nigel Godrich will do to it. Some of the songs are not that unlike Coldplay. As a Radiohead fan, I would actually bet that what Coldplay does with Eno will be at least as interesting as what Radiohead do next, only because of the producer. And I'm not especially a fan of Coldplay, although I think Parachutes is very nice at times and Rush of Blood was quite an incredible winter headphones album. Wouldn't it be great if Coldplay could get this finished up by the end of the year and Radiohead and them could finally go head-to head like Blur and Oasis in the Battle of POST-Britpop! Singles on the same day and all that, lol.

 

peace, from an interested observer.

But Eno is not "alternative" music. Coldplay is not and was never "alternative" either, they were just marketed that way in the US because all music based on guitars is considered alternative now. Anyway, that's why this is brilliant news. Coldplay has a brilliant POP album in them, one that isn't sluggish and verging on supermarkety-depressing like bits of the last one... I think Eno could help them make it. Let's not assume Eno means "weird". That's only one side of him- remember he may have done Passengers with U2, but he also did "Pride (in the Name of Love)", "Beautiful Day" and "One". I don't think Coldplay could ever succeed at being weird, but hopefully they can be exciting again, like the riff of "Yellow" or "Shiver" or the emotion in Chris' voice on Rush of Blood. Or even "Square One", "Low", "White Shadows", "A Message", the standout tracks on the highly average X&Y. Coldplay is most exciting simplicity. Songs like "Twisted Logic" and especially "Speed of Sound" were just trying too hard to be complex, though they had a few good elements in them.

 

Coldplay has already "gone electronic", ever since Parachutes, which was unusual for a big pop/rock album in being so "organic" sounding. They had "Clocks" and then most of X&Y was very synth based. So it's obvious they made a decision to move that way- electronics are not automatically a sign of "trying to do a Kid A", they are just an integral part of all types of popular music today. X&Y is in fact much more electronic than Radiohead's third album OK Computer was. Now Coldplay will probably use them in a more instantly accessible way, with or without (lol) Eno. For example some people might call Coldplay's use of electronics on X&Y "selling out" as the synths are often pretty bland and even cheesy, whereas the synth in "Warning Sign" (or pick any song from OK Computer) definitely adds a bit more musical depth to that song.

 

Ok so Eno hasn't done any notable pop productions in a few years (Paul Simon's Surprise=not so great) but even listening to U2's ATYCLB album from 2000 and comparing it to their more recent (mostly horrible) album, you can see the subtlety that Eno brought to U2's sound, while being very POP (not like the Pop album!) at the same time. The Joshua Tree is a bit overrated as far as songs- U2 have written better ones at times- but put on headphones, listen to the SOUND of it and it never gets old no matter how much that sound is ripped off now by every last Christian rock band. And ok, that album was more Lanois maybe. But he was a disciple of Eno. Eno believes in minimalism (if you are not sure what the word means, listen to the last minute of Where the Streets Have No Name or With or Without You). The point is Eno has done massively accessible multimultimillion selling albums that still made new rules instead of doing what was being done at the time. All of it is "experimental", or was when he first tried it. That doesn't mean the result is going to sound bizarre and alien. If Coldplay tried to do songs like "King's Lead Hat", "Jocko Homo" and "Born Under Punches", or even like "Daddy's Gonna Pay for Your Crashed Car" (which kinda sucks anyway- tho I love ZOoropa), it just wouldn't work out. That is not Chris' personality. There was always alienation in Thom Yorke even when he just had a guitar. Bono always had a mean streak to get you to pay attention (would Coldplay throw a brick through a window? um I don't think so. Chris couldn't even manage to actually burn down that house).

 

Coldplay is a different kind of band for better or worse. I wouldn't mind a "Heroes" or "Zoo Station" from them though. Chris needs some more sharp edges to sing against- "Low" had those, even though it sounded almost like a cover version of something on Achtung Baby. Their songs could also use more pop simplicity and focus on the rhythm- as in White Shadows, which is already very Tears for Fears, i.e. very Eno, because Tears for Fears were trying to copy Peter Gabriel's third album which was trying to copy Eno and German electronic sound.

 

For everyone talking about Radiohead, here's what Thom Yorke has to say about so-called alternative:

 

"Alternative rock needs bludgeoning to death on a big stick and left on a bridge to warn passers-by."

 

Thank f*** Coldplay doesn't pretend to be alternative anymore. It's the main thing they have going for them, compared to bands like the Arcade Fire which are no more "original" yet get cred from indie kids just for being non-mainstream. Chris Martin seems really into appearing on hip-hop and r&B albums and all that. While I can't say the rap style fits his strengths AT ALL, it is a good populist attitude from him as his band is also doing mass accessible pop music. Without adopting some pretentious wannabe hip-hop sound (Eno isn't exactly so up on that, is he?) this next album could strip them down to the melodic/rhytmic essentials so their songs sound better on the radio. X&Y I find only sounds decent on headphones (decent, not particularly good) but pretty damn annoying as singles, so whiny and bombastically bland.

 

Funny thing about that, Radiohead's new album may also be a bit more mainstream, minimalist and melodic than usual for them. I suppose it depends what Nigel Godrich will do to it. Some of the songs are not that unlike Coldplay. As a Radiohead fan, I would actually bet that what Coldplay does with Eno will be at least as interesting as what Radiohead do next, only because of the producer. And I'm not especially a fan of Coldplay, although I think Parachutes is very nice at times and Rush of Blood was quite an incredible winter headphones album. Wouldn't it be great if Coldplay could get this finished up by the end of the year and Radiohead and them could finally go head-to head like Blur and Oasis in the Battle of POST-Britpop! Singles on the same day and all that, lol.

 

peace, from an interested observer.

Great. great, great post.

You know, the sad thing is that I bet most of the people who posted in this thread hasn't got a clue on whom Brian Eno is, and why he is such a great.

That was a good post, and I agreed with a lot of it. But, I will have to disagree with you on one point. X&Y was not even close to being a horrible album. It went in another direction....more mainstream yes, but at least is wasn't the same. It was perfect material for doing large stadium shows. Do I prefer the tighter band sound of the other albums? Sure, but X&Y was not horrible. :)

You know, the sad thing is that I bet most of the people who posted in this thread hasn't got a clue on whom Brian Eno is, and why he is such a great.

 

I know. :/

i actually think the album's gonna be very U2-ish...

 

I do remember Chris saying something about "U2 is like the top of the mountain for us. That's what we're trying to achieve."

 

 

Something like that he said.

oh, great news!

indeed. I can see a new "Kid A" coming! ;)

 

;)

Has everyone forgot what Ken Nelson did with the first two albums? Apparently Coldplay has.

 

Eno worked on X&Y, Nelson hardly touched it. The result was a "poppish", poor-sounding production imo.

 

I just don't understand not bringing in the man that took their first two GREAT albums and made them sound INCREDIBLE.