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Poor in the Premier League given the players he had. Plenty of money wasted too.

Shocking at Inter.

 

Plenty of money wasted? Ok let's look at the facts and figures here rather than believing and reading into cheap tabloid shite. Here's the situation Rafa left back in June not taking into account the £5m loss on Babel and the £30m profit from Torres in January.

 

Player Net Transfer Cost

Fernando Torres

£20 m (worth £30m)

Alberto Aquilani

£20 m (worth £13m)

Robbie Keane £7 m loss

Javier Mascherano

£18 m (worth £20m)

Glen Johnson £18 m (worth £12m)

Ryan Babel £11.5 m (worth £8m)

Xabi Alonso £19.5 m profit

Dirk Kuyt £9 m (worth £8m)

Albert Riera £8 m (worth £2m)

Peter Crouch £2 m profit

Andrea Dossena £4.5 m loss

Lucas Leiva £6 m (net worth £5m)

Jermaine Pennant £6.7 m loss

Martin Skrtel £6.5 m (worth £6.5m)

Pepe Reina £6 million (worth £12m)

Luis Garcia £2 m loss

Craig Bellamy £1.5 m profit

Daniel Agger £5.8 m (worth £8m)

Momo Sissoko £3 m profit

Fernando Morientes £3.3 m loss

Yossi Benayoun £5 m (worth £7m)

Diego Cavilieri £4 m (worth £3m)

Sebastien Leto £2.5 m profit

Mark Gonzalez £3.5 m profit

 

Net Profit/Loss

 

£8 m Profit

Net Increase/Decrease (teams value)

£3.3 m Decrease

 

 

Because in many peoples mind Hicks and Gillette gave the money to Benitez. Remarkable isn't it.

 

The truth is by and large Benitez had to raise his own money while at boardroom level the owners were baffled as to how to get rid of a £350 million debt. Benitez transformed players like Carragher and Gerrard into much much better players than they were under his predecessor. Poor in the Premier League? 2006 and 2009 he achieved fantastic points hauls that in other years would have won the Premier League but for better teams above them in those years. I wouldn't call that poor.

 

And Reilly - I think you should know more than most on here what bad ownership can do to a club.

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Interesting valuations there. Not exactly factual.

 

Errr how? I would expect something for you to show otherwise but you clearly haven't

 

 

And as for the FA Cup Semi - Man City fans were brilliant. Fully deserved victory. And Fergie can shove those 5 minutes of Fergie time up his 69 year old arse.

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Errr how? I would expect something to show otherwise but you clearly haven't

 

 

And as for the FA Cup Semi - Man City fans were brilliant. Fully deserved victory. And Fergie can shove those 5 minutes of Fergie time up his 69 year old arse.

I like the way he gets redder and redder as time winds down. There's gonna. Be some shoe throwing tonight!

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I like the way he gets redder and redder as time winds down. There's gonna. Be some shoe throwing tonight!

 

Redder and redder as he thinks 'that ref is not doing what I payed him to do'.

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yeah he's a shit manager, he only managed to get Liverpool into the european cup final twice in the space of 2 seasons and winning one, an FA cup, 2nd in the league, a charity shield, runner up in the carling cup, runner up in the world club championship and managed to stop the owners doing a lot more damage to the club than what they already did. He was the worst manager in Liverpool's history

 

The Charity Shield has been called the "community shield" since 2002. Still a rather worthless game though.

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it's great to see bitter manc fans being completely narrow minded and then to see fans of teams who will never come close to the success of Rafa's era alone. I hate ferguson and i think he has the FA wrapped around his finger but I still accept the fact that he is a very good manager. I can't wait to see the bastard go but I will always say he's a good manager. Anyone who says a manager who has a fantastic record domestically and in europe despite who he's managed is shit then you aren't a fan of the game.

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And he did all that before he became a shit manager, I wouldn't even want that bitter little man near my Newcastle, don't give a fuck how many trophies he's won and Pardew hasn't.

 

Yeah, I'd have Steve Kean over him at Rovers, and so would my friends as we discussed last night.

 

With shortsightedness like that, no wonder those two teams are going nowhere fast.:rolleyes:

Both Kean and Pardew are second-rate managers, and everyone knows it.:dozey:

 

Errr how? I would expect something for you to show otherwise but you clearly haven't

 

 

And as for the FA Cup Semi - Man City fans were brilliant. Fully deserved victory. And Fergie can shove those 5 minutes of Fergie time up his 69 year old arse.

 

:lol:

 

I like the way he gets redder and redder as time winds down. There's gonna. Be some shoe throwing tonight!

 

And some hairdrying............................... :rolleyes:

 

Redder and redder as he thinks 'that ref is not doing what I payed him to do'.

 

And I don't think I've ever seen him chew gum faster.......................... :P

 

The Charity Shield has been called the "community shield" since 2002. Still a rather worthless game though.

 

True. I don't even bother to watch it nowadays.

 

it's great to see bitter manc fans being completely narrow minded and then to see fans of teams who will never come close to the success of Rafa's era alone. I hate ferguson and i think he has the FA wrapped around his finger but I still accept the fact that he is a very good manager. I can't wait to see the bastard go but I will always say he's a good manager. Anyone who says a manager who has a fantastic record domestically and in europe despite who he's managed is shit then you aren't a fan of the game.

 

I couldn't agree more. Even Liam Gallagher (on Football Focus) grudgingly admitted Fergie was a good manager and that Man U had deserved their success over the years.

If he can say it.................................... :smug:

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Mario Balotelli's wink sparks a riot: Clashes mar Manchester City's Wembley triumph

 

 

By Rob Draper and Bob Cass

Last updated at 1:18 AM on 17th April 2011

 

 

Manchester City's FA Cup semi-final victory over neighbours United descended into chaos on Saturday evening, with a series of clashes between the players that will surely bring a Football Association investigation.

Italian firebrand Mario Balotelli appeared to spark the melee after a historic 1-0 victory for City at Wembley. First, the striker incensed some of Sir Alex Ferguson's players by celebrating in front of United fans, then he drew Rio Ferdinand into a row by winking at the United and England defender.

 

article-0-0BA8829700000578-556_634x381.jpg Eye of the storm: Rio Ferdinand reacts badly to Mario Balotelli's cheeky taunt

 

Ferdinand was enraged and in the resulting chaos he clashed with City coach David Platt, the former England midfielder.

City manager Roberto Mancini attempted to make light of the ugly exchanges, saying: 'I didn't see it. I want to wait because every time people say "it's Balotelli's fault".'

article-1377733-0BA8A95700000578-881_306x423.jpg Cool it: City boss Roberto Mancini and coach David Platt hold Ferdinand back

 

When the incident was described to him, Mancini joked: 'We can put him in jail? Next week, we can put him in jail for this.'

City reached the FA Cup final for the first time in 30 years thanks to Yaya Toure's 52nd-minute goal, which also robbed United of a second dream Treble of FA Cup, European Cup and League to match the club's momentous 1999 achievement.

 

But the match was also marred by a disgraceful, high challenge by Paul Scholes on City's Argentinian defender Pablo Zabaleta, for which the former England star received a straight red card in the 71st minute.

 

And at the end Ferdinand, who had dashed back to Manchester in the early hours of Saturday morning for the birth of his third child, was forced down the tunnel while City's players were left to celebrate on the pitch.

 

In front of millions of TV viewers, what should have been a celebration of the best in English football degenerated into an embarrassing finish to the first semi-final. Bolton take on Stoke later today for the right to play City in the May 14 final.

 

Ferguson said the challenge which saw Scholes sent off was a 'red-mist moment'. The United boss added: 'Paul has had unbelievable moments over his career but he has his red-mist moments. He caught the boy.'

 

City goalkeeper Joe Hart said: 'This victory means the world to us. Look at us, the boys are over the moon, so are the fans and the staff, but nothing has been won yet. It was a fantastic goal.'

 

On the Balotelli clash, Hart added: 'I didn't see it but I couldn't care less. It's all about this team.'

 

article-1377733-0BA91A4100000578-808_634x350.jpg That's enough: Manchester City coach David Platt holds back Anderson as Balotelli is ushered away

 

Hart's opposite number, Edwin van der Sar, said: 'I think he [balotelli] misunderstood which side of the stadium he had to go to so he could thank the supporters. Maybe in Italy they do things differently, but let's just talk about the football. I won't lose any sleep over losing this game but I'm disappointed. It's a semi-final and that's not what you want at this stage of the season.'

 

City's winner came when Toure punished a bad error by Michael Carrick. Toure dedicated his goal to his brother and City team-mate Kolo Toure, who is currently suspended pending a hearing into his failed drugs test.

 

'I am very sad for him at this moment in time,' said the former Barcelona star. 'He is a professional player and he wants to play. People make mistakes sometimes. It is part of life. It is part of sport. Mentally, he is a strong guy. He is the most important person in my life.

 

article-1377733-0BA8A2E100000578-444_634x364.jpg Who, me? Balotelli pleads innocence but Anderson, Ferdinand and Evra take exception to the Italian's conduct

 

'Every time I speak with him he helps me. I dedicate this win to him and the fans.'

Kolo Toure will still be absent when City attempt to end their 35-year major trophy drought. They will do so on the 30th anniversary of their last appearance in the final, when they lost to Tottenham in a replay made memorable by Ricky Villa's superb solo goal.

 

article-1377733-0BA8A8DF00000578-347_306x382.jpg Getting shirty: Balotelli taunts the United supporters in the lead-up to the ugly scenes at the final whistle

 

Toure accepts that nothing has been achieved yet. 'I am very happy,' he said. 'We have beaten our big rivals, which is fantastic, and we are going to enjoy it.

 

'I am really happy for the fans. They have been waiting 35 years for a trophy. It is a long time. I think this is going to be the year for Manchester City. But it is not finished. We have to take a second step.

'I am not bothered about who we play. They both have enough quality to win the FA Cup but we will be very hard to beat.'

 

City also have a top-four place to try to secure, which Toure accepts is an equally important goal. 'It is our target to reach the Champions League and we are working for that,' he said. 'We want to win something. We all want to be part of the story of this club.'

 

United manager Ferguson will seek solace by readjusting his sights to his main target of the season - a record-breaking 19th league title.

 

Tuesday evening's visit to Newcastle United will see the return of suspended striker Wayne Rooney, who was badly missed. Dimitar Berbatov, denied by the excellent Hart early on, was left to rue an incredible miss seconds later when he shot over the bar from just two yards.

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A hard fought and well earnt point for Liverpool today against Arsenal! Kenny's got those local youngsters careers up and running with incredibly mature performances against formidable opposition and with a few good buys in the summer we should be set well to get back in the Champions League next season.

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A hard fought and well earnt point for Liverpool today against Arsenal! Kenny's got those local youngsters careers up and running with incredibly mature performances against formidable opposition and with a few good buys in the summer we should be set well to get back in the Champions League next season.

 

And without the pester Europa League you can go all out to get back to the top 5!

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kenny was spot on today telling winger sorry i meant Wenger to piss off. He got the tactics spot on too. And Ferdinand is a complete idiot, making a fool out of himself to be honest cos if he thought properly in that hollow head of his he'd remember gary neville a few seasons back running the length of the pitch to celebrate in front of the Liverpool fans. Dickheads, hate united so much

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A hard fought and well earnt point for Liverpool today against Arsenal! Kenny's got those local youngsters careers up and running with incredibly mature performances against formidable opposition and with a few good buys in the summer we should be set well to get back in the Champions League next season.

 

It was a good performance, and Liverpool's point was fully deserved, especially in the circumstances.:cool:

The Gooners once again showed they don't know how to "finish".:dozey:

 

nice of Dirk Kuyt to hand United their 19th league title.

 

Yes - how ironic is that?:rolleyes:

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