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The Official Club Football 2014-2015 thread

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The semi-finals have historically been played all over the country plus it takes away from reaching the final and going to Wembley when you've already been there.

 

Ah I see. Fair point.

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Gomez could be anyone, he's the new Luca Toni. He's not necessarily terrible but he certainly is not a gifted footballer, he's surrounded by players who are great at delivering, when you have Ribery, Muller, Robben etc. around you it's a hell of a lot easier. Most of his goals are tap ins, and although he does put some half chances away nicely its because he's full of confidence.

 

He'd do worse then Carroll at Liverpool, and that's saying something.

 

I think Carroll has done very well for Liverpool since January. In fact he's the only player not worth criticising for Liverpool since we've plunged downwards in the form ranks since then. The stats are something like in the last 9 games he's started Liverpool have won something like 6 or 7 and drawn 2 or 3. So goodness knows why Kenny won't start him. Just a shame that when he gets a good break of form, everyone else at the club completely drop the ball. We'd take anything though right now like Mario Gomez to just score some bloody goals.

 

John Aldridge made a good point that our defending has been appalling of late. Teams are not creating much chances against us but the trend of late has been, if you are creating chances against Liverpool then you will almost certainly score.

Well I think my counter-point when it comes to Carroll's performance is pretty self-explanatory, but still, he hasn't been scoring!

 

Sorry but it had to be said, his goalscoring record is Heskey bad, and to be honest, from when I've watched Liverpool this season I think he hasn't been awful or anything, but his performances aren't good enough to warrant scoring no goals as their striker. You look at Dirk Kuyt, a perfect example of someone whos scoring record is near to awful, but he makes up for it with constant work rate and getting involved, and this is why he's forgiven for not getting a goal every other game (For the record I completely disagree that Kuyt should be a valued player, but this appears to be how fans and the managers have felt about him).

 

With Andy though, hey may give 100%, he may show signs of trying to make chances for himself, but there comes a point where you can't keep relying on someone who's not delivering. I think if he's still having a torrid time (I think its standing at 1 goal for every 6 games he plays in- including substitutions to be fair) by next Christmas, he'll be out, and probably for in excess of 20million less then what you paid for him.

 

In fact the huge loss is probably the only reason for needing to keep him, it's probably not financially viable to approve of it.

i hope we win on Saturday... that will be 15 wins out of 15 at home this season if we do. no 16 our of 16

Oh really Daryl?! Because I thought you would be hoping the team you support loses their next match! Thanks for sharing!

 

Also to add to the discussion, I also wish my team wins their next game.

 

So, does anyone else support a team, and would you prefer they win their next game?

Well I think my counter-point when it comes to Carroll's performance is pretty self-explanatory, but still, he hasn't been scoring!

 

Sorry but it had to be said, his goalscoring record is Heskey bad, and to be honest, from when I've watched Liverpool this season I think he hasn't been awful or anything, but his performances aren't good enough to warrant scoring no goals as their striker. You look at Dirk Kuyt, a perfect example of someone whos scoring record is near to awful, but he makes up for it with constant work rate and getting involved, and this is why he's forgiven for not getting a goal every other game (For the record I completely disagree that Kuyt should be a valued player, but this appears to be how fans and the managers have felt about him).

 

With Andy though, hey may give 100%, he may show signs of trying to make chances for himself, but there comes a point where you can't keep relying on someone who's not delivering. I think if he's still having a torrid time (I think its standing at 1 goal for every 6 games he plays in- including substitutions to be fair) by next Christmas, he'll be out, and probably for in excess of 20million less then what you paid for him.

 

In fact the huge loss is probably the only reason for needing to keep him, it's probably not financially viable to approve of it.

 

I believe Carroll is the same player we signed from Newcastle but it doesnt seem like it because of the way we play. Newcastle accomodated his style perfectly whereas we play differently so it makes Carroll look bad. He doesnt get many chances to score but he does work hard. As for Kuyt, I think he is one of our most valuable players. He works hard, is fully committed, great professional, scores important goals and is just an all round nice guy.

 

PS: Schalke 4-2 Bilbao was a great game. I dont know how Bilbao won as Schalke seemed to dominate the game but Bilbao weren't undeserving. They were clinical. Llorente was brilliant. Iker Muinain (not sure if I spelt it right!) is a fantastic player. He's only 19 but he scored tonight and against Utd. Fast, clever and stylish. Just the kind of player we need.

Yeah I've always said that our system was perfect for Carroll, not proud to admit this but in the Championship days/start of last season we were about the long ball, and that was perfect for him. Now we focus on a tight passing game, it's a lot nicer to watch, and I don't even think Carroll could play for us these days (Don't get me wrong we'd bite your hand off to get him back though haha, even if we do have 2 briliant strikers at the moment).

 

Ah nice someone else saw the Schalke match, I know you meant Schalke 2-4 Bilbao if anyones a bit confused reading that. What about Raul though?! He just doesnt stop. His half volley was controlled brilliantly. He's still a prick though, fuck knows what he was complaining about after he scored the 1st, but you could tell the guy he was whining to is just used to his crap, he just turned away.

 

Bilbao didn't play well at all, but as you say, they made their chances count. Feel a bit sorry for Schalke though, huge task now in the 2nd leg.

Ha, yeah i did mean 4-2 to Bilbao. It should have been 4-2 to Schalke. Raul is amazing but that whole legend thing seems to go to his head a bit. I was a bit disappointed with Huntelaar.

Carroll would have been better staying at Newcastle fighting for his people at his club, he doesn't seem to have the same fire in him at Liverpool. I was delighted when we signed him and still have faith in him though.

 

Who could have foreseen Newcastle's rise and Liverpool's stuttering a year ago?

Sad sad news about Stiliyan Petrov. Hope he's better and is back playing soon.

Oh really Daryl?! Because I thought you would be hoping the team you support loses their next match! Thanks for sharing!

 

Also to add to the discussion, I also wish my team wins their next game.

 

So, does anyone else support a team, and would you prefer they win their next game?

 

There has been times when we have wanted our team to get beat, and even go down.

Yeah I've always said that our system was perfect for Carroll, not proud to admit this but in the Championship days/start of last season we were about the long ball, and that was perfect for him. Now we focus on a tight passing game, it's a lot nicer to watch, and I don't even think Carroll could play for us these days (Don't get me wrong we'd bite your hand off to get him back though haha, even if we do have 2 briliant strikers at the moment).

 

Ah nice someone else saw the Schalke match, I know you meant Schalke 2-4 Bilbao if anyones a bit confused reading that. What about Raul though?! He just doesnt stop. His half volley was controlled brilliantly. He's still a prick though, fuck knows what he was complaining about after he scored the 1st, but you could tell the guy he was whining to is just used to his crap, he just turned away.

 

Bilbao didn't play well at all, but as you say, they made their chances count. Feel a bit sorry for Schalke though, huge task now in the 2nd leg.

 

It's almost strange to say....but are you a better side without Carroll?

Caroll is not that bad, its just KD does not know how to use him

It's almost strange to say....but are you a better side without Carroll?

 

It is strange as we were all devastated when he left, but now, he'd be a 3rd striker. If you mean that the departure of Carroll means we've started playing more attractive football which has more of a direction and therefore consistent performances, instead of gambling by lobbing the ball up to Andy, yes in that way, probably. We are definitely a better team now that goes without saying, and we probably wouldn't have made purchases such as Cabaye and Cisse (Already looking like a great buy) without the sale of Carroll.

city inflated his price, by mere speculation that we was goona obtian him.... hahaha

There has been times when we have wanted our team to get beat, and even go down.

 

Yet you claim to have SUPPORTED them since 1989.

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Manchester City manager Roberto Mancini does not trust Balotelli

 

Manchester City manager Roberto Mancini admits he does not trust striker Mario Balotelli, but will continue to play the enigmatic Italian.

 

Balotelli made a surprise appearance at a press conference at former club Inter Milan this week, and was pictured arguing with Mancini on Wednesday. "No, I don't trust Mario. No-one trusts Mario," Mancini told BBC Sport. Mancini also hit back at Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson saying Carlos Tevez's return is "desperate".

 

On Wednesday, pictures were circulated of an apparent bust-up between Mancini and Balotelli at City's Carrington training complex. Mancini played down the row, but admitted he did not know what to expect from the unpredictable 21-year-old.

 

"He can do everything. He can score two goals against Arsenal next week. But he can also take a red card. Until now he did well and in the last eight games he could be important for us. But trust him? Never."

 

City are three points behind leaders United with the Manchester clubs battling it out to win the Premier League title. Balotelli chose to spend two days off in Italy last week and gatecrashed new Inter Milan boss Andrea Stramaccioni's first press conference. Mancini clarified his striker's presence at the press conference, but admitted Balotelli needed to grow up, with the incident the latest in a string of bizarre antics.

 

"At the press conference he was there like a journalist. It is better you ask him why but he had two days off," said Mancini. "I can't put him in his house for two days. Probably the moment will arrive when he will know what he should do when he has two days off. I hope he will grow out of it because he needs to know this is his job. He needs to work and rest. But he is young."

 

Meanwhile, Mancini disputed Ferguson's suggestion that bringing back Tevez was an act of desperation. "It is not important for me what Sir Alex says," said Mancini.

 

"I have big respect for him. I'm sure what I say is not important to him. I think the only thing that is important for him and for me is to win the championship. Carlos Tevez is a Manchester City player. He wanted to leave the club in January, but this was not possible. Now he is again a big player for us. Desperation for what? We were without Tevez for seven months and dominated this championship. I don't think so. He is a City player and maybe he can help us in the last six or seven games."

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17570030

Things hotting up at the bottom, Wigan, Wolves both winning, QPR with a point

 

and now 1-3 to Sunderland, maybe mancini doesn't trust the other 10 either?

Wolves 1-1 Bolton now

 

and

 

QPR 2-1 Arsenal

 

things are changing constantly at the bottom

hahahaahaha ballotelli throwing a complete hissy over Kolarov not letting him take a free kick.

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