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Guitarist Joe Satriani sues Coldplay for plagiarism

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Well Cpolio.. This is a Coldplay forum, so this forum just sucks the way it works.. It is a Coldplay forum, you know.. And since Coldplay suck/etc/etc

 

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Well Cpolio.. This is a Coldplay forum, so this forum just sucks the way it works.. It is a Coldplay forum, you know.. And since Coldplay suck/etc/etc

 

/sarcasm

 

yeah I know what you mean, everything around us suck :rolleyes:

So you are saying that Coldplay had chosen option 2 and changed their sound in what the record label wanted? I don't think so...:\

 

You really think you can change what we think? I think that's just a waste of time...

 

 

Edit: Then why do you even care indiefan? Stop wasting your and our time..

 

? I'm not trying to change what people think.

 

Nor did I say Coldplay changed their sound on a major label. (althogh its likely as its such a common thing). I have not listened to 'old Coldplay' enough to know that.

 

It is pretty likely though. There are about 1 million examples.

At least I am posting in the right forum, posting about Coldplay since it's what mainly this forum is about, it aint about Coldplay haters.

 

Seriously I don't know what you're doing in here if you feel so disgusted at Coldplay's music and members.

 

 

EDIT: I second Pris' post.

 

See... now here I am in a forum called Coldplay: The Band, The Music and what am I talking about? Well. Coldplay. The band. And about their music. Go figure. So why am I here? Welllll.... shall I repeat? To 'talk' about Coldplay the band, and their music. Its just that simple.

This needs to get put in the JS thread cause like that thread this thread is complete crap......people need to get a life!

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Oooh, you put a Hey Rosetta! site link in your signature. Nice.

 

 

 

Exactly! You are correct. That never made sense to me either... People can be so dumb about that.

 

Speaking of dumb, how stupid do you have to be to insult your friend's decent taste in music and sig links when you're talking to me?

So you joined a Coldplay fansite to tell us all how much they suck? :huh:

 

'Tis the life of a troll. Busy busy.

See... now here I am in a forum called Coldplay: The Band, The Music and what am I talking about? Well. Coldplay. The band. And about their music. Go figure. So why am I here? Welllll.... shall I repeat? To 'talk' about Coldplay the band, and their music. Its just that simple.

 

:snore:

 

This needs to get put in the JS thread cause like that thread this thread is complete crap......people need to get a life!

 

seconded!

 

So you joined a Coldplay fansite to tell us all how much they suck? :huh:

 

'Tis the life of a troll. Busy busy.

 

Who let the trolls out? who? who? who? :lol:

seconded!

 

Who let the trolls out? who? who? who? :lol:

 

haha.....hey Carla how are u??

:snore:

 

 

 

seconded!

 

 

 

Who let the trolls out? who? who? who? :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Oh, i needed that laugh :D

 

Thank you Carla :kiss:

haha.....hey Carla how are u??

 

cool Vivi how are you??? :hug:

 

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Oh, i needed that laugh :D

 

Thank you Carla :kiss:

 

 

:lol:

 

 

Anytime Pris! :hug::kiss:

Quote:Originally Posted by indiefan23;2893306

 

Well, JS's fan community consists of every single credible musician alive. Or, if they're not fans they at least respect him. The same can NOT be said for Chris Martin no matter how many people who have no idea who one of the best guitar players of ALL TIME like him.

 

 

 

This sounds so utterly snobbish and outside the point.

 

 

Oh, its quite snobbish. However, the fact reamins that its true.

 

Chris Martin is a very talented songwriter whereas JS is a virtuoso guitarist. But an elitist fan community doesn't make his music better, by what I've heard between the two, I find Coldplay music to be much more creative and interesting in most respects.

 

Uh, creative? Is that why Martin ripped off JS? Its great you like Coldplay, I know that. But I'll reiterate: every credible musician or critic alive (including Chris Martin) at least respects Joe Satriani if they don't like him. Coldplay does not have that respect. And that absolutely counts wether its elitist or not.

 

You clearly disagree, and I respect that. But it's rude to invade someone else's forum and bash their band as you already have.

 

I guess I'm rude. Sorry. But I don't really disagree. Satriani is amazing but lacks what I truly look for in music. Hey, he plays for himself. I'm pretty sure if he wanted to write pop songs and make millions he could. Its not difficult. See: John Mayer. Or, see the satriani song popized by Coldplay above. The true fact of the matter is that Satriani is not massive because he plays guitar. If he had a vocalist he would sell way more albums. Thats fact.

 

 

BTW your arrogance is pervading even more. Thousands of people can shred on a guitar, but Van Halen would've been bigger than the Beatles if originality and creativity didn't matter. and "If I could fly" strikes me as utterly stale and uninspired in comparison.

 

In comparison to what? The Beatles? yes. Coldplay? Considering the songs sound the same I think you're on the losing end there. Thousands of people can't Shred like Satriani or Vai BTW. Those types are few and far between.

cool Vivi how are you??? :hug:

 

Im pretty good...I had a test today and um i dont think i did all that good!:lol:

Im pretty good...I had a test today and um i dont think i did all that good!:lol:

 

I failed in a test last week... we gotta study hard next time!:D

 

You're sick? what do you have?:\

Excuse me?! Did you just really call Coldplay mainstream?:dozey:

I don't think they are "mainstream" at all, VLV isn't a mainstream song, it just was a big hit. And they totally deserved that:smug:

Miley Cyrus and Britney Spears are mainstream, with their crappy mainstream music..

 

You're kidding right? Umm... if a song is #1 it is 'mainstream'. When have Coldplay 'not' been mainstream? Like, 10 years ago?

 

Show of hands everyone... everyone who was a fan on here 'before' Yellow, please speak up. Why so quiet? Coldplay and VLV is the personification of music manufactured for and consumed by the mainstream.

You're kidding right? Umm... if a song is #1 it is 'mainstream'. When have Coldplay 'not' been mainstream? Like, 10 years ago?

 

Show of hands everyone... everyone who was a fan on here 'before' Yellow, please speak up. Why so quiet? Coldplay and VLV is the personification of music manufactured for and consumed by the mainstream.

 

Give up, please you've gotten your 5 mins of fame.

 

 

What else do you want? You're not a JS fan yourself, so get over it, will you?

maybe he's stealing someone else's spelling that he likes better :D

 

Goddamn, I nearly pissed myself while laughing about this comment! :lol::lol::lol:

Sorry for "pissed" but I didn't find another word. :D

Ummmmm who the fuck moved this from the Lounge. Why the hell do they all get to live the troll free life? I demands it be returned at once! :angry:

 

Better yet just merge it into the Radiohead thread....that'll learn em. :P

You're kidding right? Umm... if a song is #1 it is 'mainstream'. When have Coldplay 'not' been mainstream? Like, 10 years ago?

 

Show of hands everyone... everyone who was a fan on here 'before' Yellow, please speak up. Why so quiet? Coldplay and VLV is the personification of music manufactured for and consumed by the mainstream.

#1 doesn't mean that you are instant mainstream, mate.. Coldplay doesn't aim to get that #1 spot. They would certainly be mainstream, if they make dumb lyrics without any meaning (Like being in some kind of "circus" *Cough Britney Cough*

But Coldplay doesn't so they are not mainstream at all:smug:

 

 

 

Modern life is rubbish, just like many people/trolls here on this earth..

Oh, its quite snobbish. However, the fact reamins that its true.

 

Which part, the elitist snobbishness? Oh, I agree. I prefer, (or try) not to judge bands on their fanbase (otherwise you wouldn't be doing Joe any favors ;)). Influence I respect, of course...

 

Uh, creative? Is that why Martin ripped off JS? Its great you like Coldplay, I know that. But I'll reiterate: every credible musician or critic alive (including Chris Martin) at least respects Joe Satriani if they don't like him. Coldplay does not have that respect. And that absolutely counts wether its elitist or not.

 

For the last time, No one in Coldplay ripped off Satch, but if he did, I'd find what he did with the song to be pretty cool/unique.

And reiterate til your fingers cramp but Coldplay has illustrated time and time again the ability to reinvent themselves and experiment with many different styles and sounds, even in the course of a single album, much less their career.

And look, I'm not trying to discredit Satriani, Even though I dislike a lot of the stuff he's done and said over the course of this controversy I definitely respect him as a very talented guitarist.

 

And so what if Coldplay doesn't get the respect they deserve? I have enormous respect for Radiohead, but I'll be damned if most of the guys I've encountered at atease aren't complete !@#$'s...

 

 

 

In comparison to what? The Beatles? yes. Coldplay? Considering the songs sound the same I think you're on the losing end there. Thousands of people can't Shred like Satriani or Vai BTW. Those types are few and far between.

 

If you went through Coldplay's catalogue from their Safety E.P. to their latest E.P., you'd see their music spans many styles, genre's and is constantly changing. Much like U2, and yes, the Beatles in many respects. The fact you dismiss all their songs as "sounding the same" proves to me you have no authority to speak on the matter. I'd even go so far as to suggest they're far more varietous and original in their musical resume' than Satch, but we'll have to agree to disagree...

 

Personally I'd trade all the shredding in the world for some tangible, beautiful music. (and of course, music is often both)

 

I believe it was Clapton who placed importance on the spaces between his notes...

See, I see a lot of arguments going on about this... All I have to say is,

WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD SERIOUSLY THINK COLDPLAY WOULD DO THIS?? Plagiarize someone elses shit.

 

Seriously... in the famous words from Juno, "Why don't you go back to night school in Mantino & learn a real trade??"

See, I see a lot of arguments going on about this... All I have to say is,

WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD SERIOUSLY THINK COLDPLAY WOULD DO THIS?? Plagiarize someone elses shit.

 

Seriously... in the famous words from Juno, "Why don't you go back to night school in Mantino & learn a real trade??"

Exactly!:smug:

The thing people need to realize is that every artist under the sun has ripped off another artist. Either intentionally or unintentionally. George Harrison did it, Elvis Presley did it, even King Crimson ripped off Yes (and I have lots of respect for both bands.) The Mars Volta ripped off King Crimson as well, and I love The Mars Volta.

 

Whether Coldplay 'borrowed' something for one of their songs is inconsequential to me. I honestly don't give a crap. Viva La Vida is a great song, and if Coldplay were inspired by a riff from an artist I haven't even heard of, that's fine with me.

 

Bono himself even said it, "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief." Music inspires other music.

Aw man, we'd gone so long without any of these "ZOMG PLAGIARISM" idiots popping up! Can a mod please just move this to the designated thread so we can be done with it?

 

Plus, it drives me crazy when we have threads with glaring typos in the titles :freak:

 

PS- this thread was a little funny in the beginning, at least, 'cause he seemed to think that he was delivering groundbreaking news or something :lol:

Speaking of dumb, how stupid do you have to be to insult your friend's decent taste in music and sig links when you're talking to me?

 

Erm... Pardon? I don't believe that I was insulting any music taste. I guess I don't get the joke. Anyway, I don't see what's wrong with quoting different people at once. When I said that "people [could] be so dumb about that," I was not referring to you or anyone particular.

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