February 9, 200917 yr ohhh I saw that video before... that's a band from Argentina.. an old band anyway this is for Satriani :laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3: just perfect thanks Debs for the video, really good weapon to use whenever I hear someone saying they ripped off Satriani
February 9, 200917 yr ohhh I saw that video before... that's a band from Argentina.. an old band anyway this is for Satriani HA... HA... HA... HA... HA... HA... HA... HA... HA... !!!!!! :laugh3:
February 9, 200917 yr ohhh I saw that video before... that's a band from Argentina.. an old band anyway this is for Satriani I can imitate this thing PERFECTLY in real life
February 10, 200917 yr There's a spanish comment to the video that says that the creator changed the Enanitos Verdes song to make it fit to the Satriani song ... but honestly I've listened to the Enanitos song before and it's more than just strikingly similar. And I remember listening to an interview with Chris where he said he got up one night and had this melody "I used to ruuule the world" in his head and he thought about either going to sleep or staying awake and "pursuing" this melody ... So imagine Chris gets up one night thinking "I really have to copy that Satriani song ... it's awesome" ... Which version is more probable? :inquisitive:
February 10, 200917 yr There's a spanish comment to the video that says that the creator changed the Enanitos Verdes song to make it fit to the Satriani song ... but honestly I've listened to the Enanitos song before and it's more than just strikingly similar. And I remember listening to an interview with Chris where he said he got up one night and had this melody "I used to ruuule the world" in his head and he thought about either going to sleep or staying awake and "pursuing" this melody ... So imagine Chris gets up one night thinking "I really have to copy that Satriani song ... it's awesome" ... Which version is more probable? :inquisitive: And in the other video, the author changed the Coldplay song to fit the Satriani one.
February 13, 200917 yr Satriani vs Coldplay: MusicRadar's opinion The MusicRadar team airs its views on the court case of the year ...although none of us can decide who has the coolest sunglasses As a trusted and ultra-professional news-source, MusicRadar has tried its very best to stay completely neutral whilst reporting the ongoing lawsuit between Joe Satriani and Coldplay. But of course, being music-lovers, each MusicRadar staff member has their own opinion on the case, making for much debate in the office. Here, then, are the opinions of the team, aired in public for the first time. Michael Leonard reckons… I have read/studied musicologists' analyses of both songs and listened to both more than I'd usually choose – you too can watch a generic chord progression being analysed to death – and I'm still unconvinced of the songs' degree of similarity. What I do believe is any similarity is probably coincidence. When Coldplay used a riff from Kraftwerk's Computer Love on Talk (2005), they made sure they contacted the reclusive synth pioneers and cleared its use. I think if they'd knowingly lifted from If I Could Fly, they would have done the same with Satriani. Making trade fair, and all that. I also don't believe Chris Martin likely listens to Satriani for inspiration. The entire works of U2 and field songs by Ethiopian coffee farmers, maybe, but not instrumental shred albums. So when Martin claims the melody came to him one night, I believe him. Even so, the law is currently on Satriani's side. Coldplay's main mistake was ignoring his claim for so long, because they thought it was "ridiculous". The outcome? Coldplay will want to avoid a courtcase. Proving 'coincidence' in a court is tough – and any copying is plausible, as Satriani is a major artist on a major label – so I expect that this will now be settled out of court. Satriani will get some money, a lot of money, and may be begrudgingly offered a co-write credit. And 25 years from now, the name of the song that will likely end up credited to Berryman/Buckland/Champion/Martin/Satriani will just be a staple of music pub quizzes. One thing is for sure. The originality of tunes on Satriani's next album will be pored over in more detail than he's used to… ML Chris Wickett reckons… Fair play to Joe Satriani – he's got every right to defend his IP if he thinks someone is taking the piss. But, equally, fair play to Coldplay – if they feel they wrote a cracking tune and someone's inexplicably suing them for it, they've got every right to tell that person to go do one, frankly. But I'm still not convinced the two songs are even that alike. The square-pegs-into-circular-holes YouTube hash-up might highlight similar melodies, but hear each section in context and they've a completely different feel. Speaking from my own experience, I own both albums and had been familiar with If I Could Fly for years before my first listen to Coldplay's Viva La Vida – and on that listen, I didn't recall the Satch track at any point. I just find it damn near impossible to believe that Coldplay would have even heard the track in question, and even harder to believe that they actively decided to crib from it. The similarity – and it's an insignificant one – is a coincidence. CW http://www.musicradar.com
February 13, 200917 yr Making trade fair, and all that. Hehe nice words. I think Coldplay will want to avoid a co-write credit at all costs :thinking:.
February 14, 200917 yr The MusicRadar team airs its views on the court case of the year ...although none of us can decide who has the coolest sunglasses As a trusted and ultra-professional news-source, MusicRadar has tried its very best to stay completely neutral whilst reporting the ongoing lawsuit between Joe Satriani and Coldplay. But of course, being music-lovers, each MusicRadar staff member has their own opinion on the case, making for much debate in the office. Here, then, are the opinions of the team, aired in public for the first time. Michael Leonard reckons… I have read/studied musicologists' analyses of both songs and listened to both more than I'd usually choose – you too can watch a generic chord progression being analysed to death – and I'm still unconvinced of the songs' degree of similarity. What I do believe is any similarity is probably coincidence. When Coldplay used a riff from Kraftwerk's Computer Love on Talk (2005), they made sure they contacted the reclusive synth pioneers and cleared its use. I think if they'd knowingly lifted from If I Could Fly, they would have done the same with Satriani. Making trade fair, and all that. I also don't believe Chris Martin likely listens to Satriani for inspiration. The entire works of U2 and field songs by Ethiopian coffee farmers, maybe, but not instrumental shred albums. So when Martin claims the melody came to him one night, I believe him. Even so, the law is currently on Satriani's side. Coldplay's main mistake was ignoring his claim for so long, because they thought it was "ridiculous". The outcome? Coldplay will want to avoid a courtcase. Proving 'coincidence' in a court is tough – and any copying is plausible, as Satriani is a major artist on a major label – so I expect that this will now be settled out of court. Satriani will get some money, a lot of money, and may be begrudgingly offered a co-write credit. And 25 years from now, the name of the song that will likely end up credited to Berryman/Buckland/Champion/Martin/Satriani will just be a staple of music pub quizzes. One thing is for sure. The originality of tunes on Satriani's next album will be pored over in more detail than he's used to… ML Chris Wickett reckons… Fair play to Joe Satriani – he's got every right to defend his IP if he thinks someone is taking the piss. But, equally, fair play to Coldplay – if they feel they wrote a cracking tune and someone's inexplicably suing them for it, they've got every right to tell that person to go do one, frankly. But I'm still not convinced the two songs are even that alike. The square-pegs-into-circular-holes YouTube hash-up might highlight similar melodies, but hear each section in context and they've a completely different feel. Speaking from my own experience, I own both albums and had been familiar with If I Could Fly for years before my first listen to Coldplay's Viva La Vida – and on that listen, I didn't recall the Satch track at any point. I just find it damn near impossible to believe that Coldplay would have even heard the track in question, and even harder to believe that they actively decided to crib from it. The similarity – and it's an insignificant one – is a coincidence. CW http://www.musicradar.com I can't find that article...? It's gone! It says can't be found. http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/satriani-vs-coldplay-musicradars-opinion-196218 I clicked your link on home page...
February 15, 200917 yr ^ The article must have been removed. The link still appears if you search google news, but you get an Error-Article Not Found message once you click on it. http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&um=1&tab=wn&scoring=n&q=coldplay+satriani
February 15, 200917 yr ^ The article must have been removed. The link still appears if you search google news, but you get an Error-Article Not Found message once you click on it. http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&um=1&tab=wn&scoring=n&q=coldplay+satriani The same..., but thanks Aprophet As you say it has been removed. I suppose It only exists in google research engine database.
February 15, 200917 yr why was the article removed? I suppose someone hitted their head and told them: 'do you remembrer the NEUTAL thing?'. :( .They still can have their oppinion but not post it in musicradar.com if that its their policy, Or maybe they only wanted to avoid possible legal problems. But this is only my assumption
February 15, 200917 yr Interestingly, their front page has a video exclusive about satriani unveiling a new amp. http://www.musicradar.com/
February 15, 200917 yr The Satriani song in question uses several riffs that Mike and the Mechanics used in many of their songs during the mid-to-late 80's. I hear more than one nod to "All I Need is a Miracle" and even bits of the melody line to the Genesis track "Since I Lost You" written / recorded in 1991. Maybe we can get Mike Rutherford and Phil Collins to file a lawsuit against Satriani. And Satriani's "dagger through my heart" comment is SO melodramatic. Geesh....Mr. hardcore rocking guitarist is somehow brought to his knees because another band has a hit song. Can you say "PAYDAY"???? Satriani has loads of talent and I respect him as musical player. In terms of his musical ETHICS, well....that's another story. Sounds like he was sitting around just waiting for an opportunity to pounce. Or perhaps his lawyer was. Either way, this stinks for the music industry as a whole. Creativeness will be given even greater scrutiny thanks to ridiculous lawsuits like this one. Perhaps Chuck Berry's agent should sue EVERYONE who has ever played a guitar. After all, his guy created a lot of what's still being used today....:wink3:
February 15, 200917 yr Interestingly, their front page has a video exclusive about satriani unveiling a new amp. http://www.musicradar.com/ ... getting angry ...
February 15, 200917 yr off topic but i didnt know debs was a member of coldplaying!! and for so long as well haha good 2 have ya on this forum anyways... as for mo batriani hes a person whos trying to get money from a successfull band...i have a tune that came with my sony ericson phone that has a similer tune...he might sue them next and (ive sed it before) Brian Eno for looking slight like him
March 3, 200917 yr Nothing. Satch and his disgusting lawyer threatened mean tricks, Coldplay had a lawyer respond, Satch and disgusting lawyer backed off having got themselves lots of lovely publicity :dozey: Now we just wait.
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