have they seen this one here!!???

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpB_40hYjXU]YouTube - Axis Of Awesome 4 Chords[/ame]

^epic. and the thing is, Viva la Vida is just a slight variation on C, D, G, Em. Mathematically speaking there have to be hundreds of popular songs with similar progressions.

 

btw that vid reminds me a whole lot of this. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM]YouTube - Pachelbel Rant[/ame]

Another one making money off this :(

Coldplay makes an awesome song, and all these people try to grab a piece of it. :(

 

I know. It's like these people are bloodsucking vultures, feeding off of Coldplay's success.

 

Like I said before, I had never heard of this Joe Satriani before he started suing Coldplay. I think he's just pissed off that his song wasn't a #1 hit like Coldplay's.

People who hate Coldplay will find any reason to bring them down. It seems to me, that a good majority of the people who hate them are generally assholes themselves. If you tell them 'I love Coldplay', they'll proceed to rip into them and generally get really pissed off and say a whole bunch of mean shit to you personally.

Another one making money off this :(

Coldplay makes an awesome song, and all these people try to grab a piece of it. :(

 

exactly. it's bullshit. absolute bullshit. :dozey:.

I agree with the most people who are posting here, I'm not even going to watch these vids, they'll just make me angry:veryangry2:

 

Why don't they just leave Coldplay alone, I don't know why it's such an enjoyment for some people to trample them down ... :sick:

This Song:

 

This song has nothing tricky about it

This song ain't black or white and as far as I know

Don't infringe on anyone's copyright, so . . .

 

This song we'll let be

This song is in E

This song is for you and . . .

 

This tune has nothing Bright about it

This tune ain't bad or good and come ever what may

My expert tells me it's okay

 

As this song came to me

Quite unknowingly

This song could be you could be . . .

 

This riff ain't trying to win gold medals

This riff ain't hip or square

Well done or rare

May end up one more weight to bear

 

But this song could well be

A reason to see - that

Without you there's no point to . . . this song

i hate joe satriani... hes just jealous because before i loved coldplay... ive never heard of him before lol so obviously hes just trying to get a free ride to frame at the expence of making lies about coldplay... discusting :angry:

coldplays way too original too steal anythingchris martin has said many times before, instead of ranting and raving about how they didnt steal anything hes just simply saying they didnt steal anything and i thinnk coldplays taking the higher road ;) keep up the good work fells :)

ughh stupid mean people >:/

 

I agree with the most people who are posting here, I'm not even going to watch these vids, they'll just make me angry:veryangry2:

 

Why don't they just leave Coldplay alone, I don't know why it's such an enjoyment for some people to trample them down ... :sick:

 

 

 

i know i know, i don't understand what makes them feel better.

its stupid. the videos a waste of time i always get pissed off when i watch something bad about them like that gay Bill O'Reilly thing with coldplay and violet hill (my favorite song might i add) calling him an idiot i was like what the :censored:

Guitarist accuses Coldplay of plagiarism

 

12/05/2008 2:01 AM, Reuters

 

Rock guitarist Joe Satriani has sued British band Coldplay, accusing the Grammy-nominated stars of plagiarizing one of his songs.

Satriani's copyright infringement suit, filed on Thursday in Los Angeles federal court, claims the Coldplay song "Viva La Vida" incorporates "substantial original portions" of his 2004 instrumental "If I Could Fly."

 

The 52-year-old guitar virtuoso is seeking a jury trial, damages and "any and all profits" attributable to the alleged copyright infringement.

Coldplay, whose soaring atmospheric tunes are often compared to those of Irish rock band U2, received seven Grammy nominations on Wednesday, second only to rapper Lil Wayne.

 

Among its mentions were nominations in the key record and song of the year categories for "Viva La Vida," which comes from the band's chart-topping album "Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends."

 

The song is credited to the band's four members, singer Chris Martin; bass player Guy Berryman; guitarist Johnny Buckland; and drummer Will Champion. The title was inspired by a painting by Mexican artist Frida Kahlo.

 

The Satriani track comes from his album "Is There Love in Space?" Further comment from Satriani's attorney, or reaction from Coldplay's management was not immediately available.

 

(Reporting by Dean Goodman; editing by Todd Eastham)

 

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61915910

 

This is a load of shit!!!!:veryangry2::veryangry2:

 

Who is this Joe Satriani, anyway??????:o:o:o

 

 

EEEXACTLYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had no idea who the hell joe satriani was before coldplay lol!

like obviously your not the popular, i think hes just pursuing this in court because he wants the free publicity ... what a loser lol:angry:

I'm tired of this Joe Satriani sh...stuff. Going by his logic, you could find similarities between just about ANY two songs in the world. Not to mention, there are only so many notes/chords/whatever in music. There's bound to be some song whose chord progression is very similar to some other song recorded long before it.

 

Another thing, whenever Coldplay sampled another song or whatever, they themselves admitted it. Like, they said The Hardest Part was their tribute to R.E.M. Heck, they actually requested permission from Kraftwerk to sample one of their songs for "Talk." If they needed his tune, they'd have asked him for it, or credited him for it.

 

And this isn't just the Coldplay fan in me saying this, I'm trying to look at this from a competely impartial POV.

 

And btw, Viva La Vida (the single) was released in May 2008, was #1 in June... and Joe Satriani sues them in December. What took him so long? Had he not heard the song earlier, even when it was #1 on the US Charts (a first for Coldplay), or did he actually listen to the song earlier itself, but was waiting to see how well it would do?

Dang. When sumbody became successul, when sumbody is at the top........there will be others who wanna take them down.The wise sayings are true.

 

 

 

Satriani should chill, man.

I personally didn't think coldplay copied him but you have to be kidding me if you think Joe Satriani is a nobody. He is one of the best guitar players in the world. Him playing with G3 has to be some of the most amazing stuff I've ever seen.

I never doubted he was a good guitarist, I had actually listened to his older stuff years ago, but the lawsuit makes me question the person that he is. It's less about his musical talent and more his ulterior motive for suing.

The fact is, everyone steals from everbody else!!!!!

 

I am surprised that the Jimi Hendrix estate hasnt sued Prince for plagiarism, or even the James Brown estate for that matter!!

 

Then look at the late Michael Hutchence!! He definately stole from the late Jim Morrison!!!!

 

Really, in all reality, theres not one geniune, individual performer out there, and there never has been IMO!!!!!:):)

 

 

dude im being forced to learn music theory, and were learning intervals and stuff. some intervals sound like songs for example fur elise and the jaws theme! :o i was like shocked that so many songs have the same intervals :angry:so if joe satriani wants to play:sneaky: , im sure they can find other songs that are exactly like his that he copied!!!:inquisitive:

by the way jaws and fur elise is A minor second/half step.:rolleyes:

 

JOE SATRIANI SUCKS ;)

COLDPLAY IS AMAZINGGG :D

Joe Satriani hoping for a 'quiet ending' to Coldplay plagiarism case

 

Joe Satriani hopes that the pending copyright case with Coldplay will be settled "quietly behind closed doors," he claimed today via an online article in Australia's Sunday edition of the Herald Sun.

 

"It's one of those things that I am not really at liberty to discuss the juicy parts," he says, as the case makes its way through the US courts. "It's not really something that should have been public. It's a minor tiff between musicians that had we been in the same band it never would have made it out of the rehearsal room. But it's complicated by the fact that we are not in the same band. But neither Coldplay nor myself are comfortable discussing the details and we hope we can take care of it quietly behind closed doors."

 

The legal dispute remains unresolved since Satriani filed suit in December, although Coldplay members have hotly denied his contention. But Howard King, Satriani's lawyer, said Coldplay has hired a high-profile legal firm in California to handle the suit after it became clear that the group's appearance at the 2009 Grammys in Los Angeles could be marred by the embarrassment of having the legal documents served on them publicly.

 

"We did have some service challenges, but once we made it known we were going to serve them at the Grammys ... they had a lawyer contact us, who agreed to accept service on their behalf," King said.

 

Both sides have set a tentative trial date for spring 2010, but King said they'll also hold "private mediation" talks in late July. "Cases like this either go to trial and have unpredictable and sometimes devastating results for one side or the other ... or get resolved behind closed doors. There is going to be an attempt in late July to see if the case is capable of being resolved behind closed doors," King said. Russell Frackman, representing Coldplay, had no comment.

 

http://www.coldplaying.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6382

Well Joe's attorney has been more than happy to discuss the juicy details and Joe's bandmates have made some underhand comments about looking forward to snatching some of Gwyneth Paltrow's money.

 

It's Coldplay who are trying to deal with it quietly...not Satriani, however much he insists he is :dozey:

^i agree.

:rolleyes:

Oh come on, Satriani and his lawyers have made such a big deal out of this.Please.

Joe Satriani really let me nausea, villain!:angry:

Well Satriani.

 

YOU were the one who made this a big hoo-ha and paparazzi circus act in the first place.

I'd never heard of Joe Satriani either, but the fact is that he's an amazing guitarist. But the fact that he's good at what he does (and is in a band called Chickenfoot. Chickenfoot?!!) does NOT give him a reason to sue Coldplay. He wants to take them down because he's jealous that they're so famous.

Chickenfoot are coming to Houston. I was thinking of sending over some drinks for their douche bag guitarist.

:stunned: :lol:

The song remains the same

 

 

Rock artists find it's a fine line between borrowing and stealing

 

If you want to accuse Coldplay of musical plagiarism over its 2008 hit song “Viva La Vida,” get in line.

 

The top English pop-rock band, which performs here Thursday at Cricket Wireless Amphitheatre, was sued late last year by veteran San Francisco guitarist Joe Satriani, who alleged that “Viva La Vida” brazenly took from his 2004 song, “If I Could Fly.”

 

Coldplay was also accused last year of copying parts of “Viva La Vida” from an obscure 2008 number by Brooklyn's Creaky Boards, called – fittingly – “The Songs I Didn't Write.”

 

Coldplay, Satriani and the Creaky Boards' songs all bear, in varying degrees, similarities with 2002's “Frances Limon” by top Argentinian rock band Los Enanitos Verdes. In turn, “Frances Limon” owes a debt to the instrumental section from Toto's 1982 song, “I Won't Hold You Back,” although no one from Toto appears to have taken any legal action, at least not yet.

 

More recently, Yusuf Islam (the former Cat Stevens) said in May that the same Coldplay hit also bears a striking similarity to his 1973 song, “Foreigner Suite.”

But sound-alike songs are nothing new in rock, a style in which imitation has long been a way of life and, on occasion, very high-priced lawsuits. The electronic sampling that is de rigueur in hip-hop aside, rock's reliance on instrumental structures often derived from basic 12-bar blues is the source of both the music's visceral impact and its stylistic limitations.

 

With a finite number of chords, time signatures and topics to write about, achieving originality in rock has become increasingly challenging. Even the most acclaimed artists, from The Beatles and Bob Dylan to Prince and current buzz band Dirty Projectors, borrowed from others as they learned to create and develop their own styles.

 

“You have to separate between bands that are accidentally sounding like someone and bands that are ripping someone off,” said White Stripes' leader Jack White, who performs here in late August at Street Scene with his latest band, The Dead Weather.

 

White has frequently been criticized for borrowing – vocally and guitarwise – from Led Zeppelin in particular, but he dismisses such comments as “a lazy reference” by journalists.

 

What separates the greats from the pretenders and wannabe's in music is the ability to absorb various influences and use them as building blocks to make something distinctly your own.

 

“You can absolutely steal ideas from anybody, as long as you twist them into something original,” said acclaimed English singer-songwriter Richard Thompson. “If I regurgitated Ralph Vaughan Williams, or Hank Williams, I'd have to throw it away. But if I added something as interesting of my own, then fair enough.”

 

Adding something of his own is exactly what David Bowie did when he wrote songs for Iggy Pop's 1977 album, “Lust for Life,” which he also produced.

“(Bowie) was tired of me, tired of rock 'n' roll and wanted to get the (album) production contract over,” Pop recently told the English music magazine Uncut. “He said, 'Right, we're going to rewrite any damn song.' I won't say which songs by other people but I think it's a hilarious attitude. He was like, 'I could do that (song), and I could do that better!' He reeled off about five of those (in) about five hours.”

 

Depending on how conspicuous the musical “rewriting” is – and how commercially successful the result – legal action may follow, as artists as varied as Janet Jackson, Rod Stewart, Steely Dan and the late George Harrison discovered.

In 1976, Harrison's 1970 hit “My Sweet Lord” was ruled to have “unintentionally copied” “He's So Fine,” a 1962 song by the American R&B vocal quartet The Chiffons. Harrison had to pay $587,000. In a strange twist, The Chiffons subsequently recorded their own version of “My Sweet Lord,” while the music publishing company that won the judgment against Harrison was later taken over by ex-Beatles' manager Allen Klein (who died last Sunday).

 

Coldplay's embattled “Viva La Vida” is being featured nightly on the band's current tour, which is named after the song. The group, not surprisingly, is seeking to downplay the controversy.

 

In late May, Coldplay singer Chris Martin wrote on his band's Web site: “Yeah, some people are suing us at the moment and although it was initially a bit depressing, now it's become really inspiring. You think, 'Right, if everyone's trying to take away our best song, then we'd better write 25 better ones.' ... Now we've got more to prove than ever before.”

 

Coldplay drummer Will Champion sounded more defensive in a May interview with the English newspaper the Guardian.

 

“For some reason, God only knows why, it's the successful songs that seem to be the ones that are accused of being stolen,” Champion said. “There are elements of our music that I've heard in other people's music, but it's kind of ... I don't know. It's interesting, but a very difficult thing to define.”

 

The difficulty may lie in the numbers, a point Champion made in the same interview. “There are only eight notes in an octave and no one owns them,” the mathematically challenged drummer said. “And there are probably about 12,000 songs that feature the exact same chord progression. I think it lies on an intent to steal, which we certainly have never done and never would.”

 

Intent, or lack thereof, may have played a role in Islam (the former Cat Stevens) backing off his previously announced intention to file a suit of his own against Coldplay, which he said would have been determined by “how well Satriani does.”

“They did copy my song, but I don't think they did it on purpose,” Islam told the London-based Daily Express last month. Islam was less forgiving in 2003, when he successfully brought legal action against Flaming Lips for using the melody of his 1970 song “Father and Son” for its 2002 song “Fight Test.” (Creaky Boards, meanwhile, retracted its plagiarism charge against Coldplay, without explaining why.)

 

Of course, intent can be hard to prove. Ditto the sometimes fine line between flattery and thievery, as evidenced by the dozens of songs based on rock pioneer Bo Diddley's 1957 anthem, “Hey! Bo Diddley.”

 

Last month, two members of Men at Work became embroiled in a suit in their native Australia. The imbroglio stems from charges that the band's biggest hit, “Down Under,” reproduces the melody of the opening verse to the popular children's song “Kookaburra.”

 

Then, there's the signature guitar riff to the Rolling Stones' 1971 classic “Brown Sugar.” It has appeared, almost note for note, at the start of the Dandy Warhols' “Bohemian Like You,” The Specials' “Little Bitch” and “The Loser” by Chicken Shack.

 

But each of those songs have their own added twists. That may be why there were no suits filed by the often litigious Stones, who more than a decade ago shared songwriting credits with k.d. lang and Ben Mink after the legendary English band learned that its song “Anybody Seen My Baby?” bore an uncanny resemblance to lang and Mink's Grammy Award-winning “Constant Craving.”

Then there are such performers as Lenny Kravitz and the Black Crowes, whose songs sometimes appear to be a composite of several songs by several different artists. The Strokes' 2001 breakthrough hit, “Last Nite,” achieved a trifecta of sorts by combining elements of Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers' “American Girl,” Iggy Pop's “Lust for Life” and The Jam's “Town Called Malice.”

 

Sometimes, though, candor makes all the difference. Neil Young memorably demonstrated this in 1974 with “Borrowed Tune,” which featured a melody he “borrowed” from the Rolling Stones' 1966 chestnut “Lady Jane.” Tellingly, Young's song includes the climactic verse: I'm singin' this borrowed tune I took from the Rolling Stones / Alone in this empty room, too wasted to write my own.

 

http://www.signonsandiego.com/