an angel Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Why? Are you asking me why it shouldn't be legal under extreme cases? Because it's not the baby's fault it was conceived, no matter how it was conceived, so it shouldn't be killed. I really hope you just made that statement based on actually truly believing that it shouldn't be legal under any circumstances, rather than on just wanting to be 100% pro-life. Because that's certainly not how it sounded. I didn't mean for it to sound like that, sorry, and yes I do believe that. Read what I wrote two pages ago if you're not convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reilly Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Are you asking me why it shouldn't be legal under extreme cases? No I made myself clear several times, I'm getting annoyed. You said that a foetus is no less than a human being, you said that killing a human foetus is murder, and then you said that you sat on the fence about whether a rape baby is a different human being then the rest of us. You make no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an angel Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I never ever said that a fetus that was conceived by rape was less of a human than anyone else. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an angel Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 And anyway you asked me why I'm not sitting on the fence anymore, and I told you why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reilly Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 OK so you aren't sitting on the fence anymore, so at least you have a clear opinion now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenflor Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I know I'm jumping in to this late, but... Mkay, so it's okay to end the life of a human because it's simply inconvenient for you? And like I've said, there's adoption. Just because the mother doesn't want the child doesn't mean that no one else would. And did you know that many, many women regret having abortions later in life? It's not always the best choice at all. No, it's not always the best choice, but then NOTHING is *always* the best choice. Yes, there are many women who regret having had an abortion, but I'm sure there are just as many who made that decision and have had happier, more productive lives because of it. and, in general, I think it's important to note that just because someone is pro-choice (as I am), doesn't mean they are anti-life. I don't know what I would have done if I had been faced with a pregnancy early in my life... but I do know that I wouldn't want someone else making that decision for me, based on their perception of my circumstances. I completely agree with what Lauren said a couple of pages ago regarding the Supreme Court's decision on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorrificAttack Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Exactly, it's such a selfish attitude to shout "MURDER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reilly Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I can tell you now, all that post leads up to is murder. People are idiots. I can't believe we have this many idiots in the lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an angel Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hang on a second, are you saying I'm an idiot? Because my opinions differ from yours? I'm sorry, but that's not cool. I've explained why I believe an unborn baby is a human clearly and with a lot of evidence to back it up. I don't blindly believe the things I believe. No one has even responded to what I said about whether they think it's okay to kill a fetus when it has a beating heart and in most cases can feel pain. -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reilly Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I don't think you're an idiot kels, but in terms of your views of abortion, you've backtracked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenflor Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 No one has even responded to what I said about whether they think it's okay to kill a fetus when it has a beating heart and in most cases can feel pain. -.- It's considered an embryo until around the 12th week, at which point it becomes a fetus. In any case, I don't think it's okay to kill anything. That's not the point (at least for me) of being pro-choice. My point is, it should not be up to the government to determine the course of my life for me. Women have abortions for so very many different reasons. Some I completely agree with, others I don't. I just don't think it's my place or anyone else's to tell them they can or can not do it, when it's something that so dramatically impacts their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Track Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 It varries from case to case but overall I'd have to say that forbidding it would not be right. Part of being a free country is not having the angry masses make decisions over your body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reilly Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 At least you're both aware that being "Pro-life" is a political statement and not just a moral and personal thing. I've got the feeling some people want to be pro-life to show how much of a great humanitarian they are, without realising what the term actually entails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaLouiseSmyth Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Pro - Choice definitely. Simply for if i was in the position that got pregnant young, i would may want to go to college and get a career. so the option of an abortion being there would be good. I don't know if i would personally get one, but i would never rule it out. Saying all that i live in Ireland, it's illegal here sooo.... i can't really choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Pro-Choice Always have been really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColderPlayer Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I am Pro Choice - I do not see why it is a debate, merely because we live in a democracy, and we chose to have the right - just because you are pro-choice it doesn't mean you will opt to abort, it merely means you are free to choose. My two bobs! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorrificAttack Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I am Pro Choice - I do not see why it is a debate, merely because we live in a democracy, and we chose to have the right - just because you are pro-choice it doesn't mean you will opt to abort, it merely means you are free to choose. My two bobs! :) Yeah but some people class it as "murder" which means that they would see your point as saying Murder is free choice and should just be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 It is murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keddie Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I believe everyone should have a right to their own body. People should be allowed to use drugs, kill themselves or whatever they like to their own body. However when you have another human life involved that's when your freedoms should end. What's life? When we start debating what "life" that generally leads to horrible atrocities in human history. Jews aren't really human so it's ok to murder them, Africans are less human so we can enslave them..... Life has different meaning to everyone. So how can we define life? I think this statement covers everything, really. Probably the best question there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colduser Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I am a man so I really have no business putting forth my opinion. However, for what it's worth, I am pro-choice. Women should be free to do what they want with their bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Oh fuck off and die you utter piece of shit ****. I know that's really immature and stupid but that comic is fucking stupid as well and so are you. It actually is comforting to know that the things I post can still piss you off so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 My two bobs! :) I read this as boobs :disappointed: -5 credibility points for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I did too but I had the self-respect to not say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs. chris martin Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 it's called pro-CHOICE for a reason. i personally think abortions are disgusting & never in my life would i ever to get one. but who am i to tell a woman she can't rid herself of this traumatic reminder of the time she was raped, or to allow a child to be born as a crack baby or into a loveless home where the parents would resent it. you ever watch "the cider house rules"? if you make abortions illegal that won't stop women from having them. they'll just have these back-alley abortions that are completely unsafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnspieler1012 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 i personally think abortions are disgusting & never in my life would i ever to get one. but who am i to...allow a child to be born as a crack baby seeing as your mood is 'crackhead' one of two things need to change before you get preggers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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