IMO, X&Y is 100 times more commercial than VLV.

I can't hear this stuff anymore.

"VLV is commercial..."

 

That isn't thruth. They selled AROBTTH and X&Y also about 10 million times!

 

Except Viva la Vida and Lost, maybe also Lovers in Japan, there isn't any other typical "pop-song" on this album. All the other songs are just like a perfect painting.

 

I understand if someone say: "ok, I liked the unfinished style of AROBTTH more than the seemingly perfection on VLV" - but don't tell this "Commercial"-stuff, please.

 

What's the problem to say "commercial"? I don't see any problem with that word and for me it's not a bad thing, just a fact and an opinion.

I'm not criticizing! Well, I'll change the word next time!

I have a huge problem with Chris saying 'We're trying to make a masterpiece'. Sure, if Coldplay don't believe that they've created their best work yet, good luck to them. But the great albums aren't usually intended to be the great albums. Radiohead wouldn't have said 'Okay, we've made two pretty decent albums that have sold and rated pretty damned well, but now let's make an album that's considered to be one of the greatest rock albums of ALL TIMEE!' The same goes for The Beatles with Sgt Pepper's, Abbey Road, etc., nor did Green Day with Dookie or American Idiot. Masterpieces come out of creativity; music comes from the heart. Not trying to go down in history.

 

Anyway, I hope Coldplay build on the sound they had going on VLV with Eno and others for the new album.

 

I disagree. The thing about Coldplay that make them seem better than most bands out there is that none of their albums sound the same; each album has its own distinct sound. Listen to AROBBTH, then listen to Viva... two very different albums. I don't want an album that sounds the same as another... I want it to be unique.

I have a huge problem with Chris saying 'We're trying to make a masterpiece'. Sure, if Coldplay don't believe that they've created their best work yet, good luck to them. But the great albums aren't usually intended to be the great albums. Radiohead wouldn't have said 'Okay, we've made two pretty decent albums that have sold and rated pretty damned well, but now let's make an album that's considered to be one of the greatest rock albums of ALL TIMEE!' The same goes for The Beatles with Sgt Pepper's, Abbey Road, etc., nor did Green Day with Dookie or American Idiot. Masterpieces come out of creativity; music comes from the heart. Not trying to go down in history.

 

 

well, Chris actually said "our masterpiece" which i think significantly differs from just "a masterpiece." they're not necessarily trying to make "one of the greatest rock albums of ALL TIMEE!," or even trying to be better than anyone else, they just want to do the best work they can by their own standards.

of course, i keep saying 'they' and i suppose technically i should just say 'Chris' since he is usually the one saying all that stuff about being "hungry" and wanting to improve all the time. :P

I have a huge problem with Chris saying 'We're trying to make a masterpiece'. Sure, if Coldplay don't believe that they've created their best work yet, good luck to them. But the great albums aren't usually intended to be the great albums. Radiohead wouldn't have said 'Okay, we've made two pretty decent albums that have sold and rated pretty damned well, but now let's make an album that's considered to be one of the greatest rock albums of ALL TIMEE!' The same goes for The Beatles with Sgt Pepper's, Abbey Road, etc., nor did Green Day with Dookie or American Idiot. Masterpieces come out of creativity; music comes from the heart. Not trying to go down in history.

 

I don't think he means to say that the next album is going to be a masterpiece, the only thing he's saying is that they still have the motivation and the drive to go on, they don't feel like they've already accomplished everything yet so they still have the drive to try to make better things. In that way, Coldplay is always trying to make a masterpiece, they did when they started and they will after this, and I'm certain they'll never feel like they've did it.

And I'm pretty sure that other bands have the same thing going; wanting to make the best music and do better than before. Because if you don't want that, where is the reason to keep making music?

 

And I don't see how this comment leads you to think that Coldplay is just trying to go down in history with this next album instead of being creative and making music from their hearts, because that's just not Coldplay. They always talk about creativity and how the best songs come from nowhere and how they try to make what they love.

 

And besides that, Chris says a lot of things, and we shouldn't take it all to seriously, he'd be scared by how seriously we take every word he says, because it's not like he thinks it all through, he's in an interview and just says what comes up and probably doesn't agree with himself anymore afterwards half the time.

well, Chris actually said "our masterpiece" which i think significantly differs from just "a masterpiece." they're not necessarily trying to make "one of the greatest rock albums of ALL TIMEE!," or even trying to be better than anyone else, they just want to do the best work they can by their own standards.

of course, i keep saying 'they' and i suppose technically i should just say 'Chris' since he is usually the one saying all that stuff about being "hungry" and wanting to improve all the time. :P

 

That's a good point... I think I just misread it or analyse it to mean that they're trying to make a masterpiece rather than their masterpiece.

 

Nonetheless, they should be trying to make music that comes from the heart, rather than music that sells records. I know that's an incredibly biased thing to say, as any band that tries to 'make it' is trying to sell as many records as is humanly possible. It just seems that Chris is trying more than ever to sell records rather than make music, which to me is not what Coldplay is about. I dunno... that's just me, maybe ;)

I don't think he means to say that the next album is going to be a masterpiece, the only thing he's saying is that they still have the motivation and the drive to go on, they don't feel like they've already accomplished everything yet so they still have the drive to try to make better things. In that way, Coldplay is always trying to make a masterpiece, they did when they started and they will after this, and I'm certain they'll never feel like they've did it.

And I'm pretty sure that other bands have the same thing going; wanting to make the best music and do better than before. Because if you don't want that, where is the reason to keep making music?

 

And I don't see how this comment leads you to think that Coldplay is just trying to go down in history with this next album instead of being creative and making music from their hearts, because that's just not Coldplay. They always talk about creativity and how the best songs come from nowhere and how they try to make what they love.

 

And besides that, Chris says a lot of things, and we shouldn't take it all to seriously, he'd be scared by how seriously we take every word he says, because it's not like he thinks it all through, he's in an interview and just says what comes up and probably doesn't agree with himself anymore afterwards half the time.

 

Yeah, you're right... like I said, I think I'm just misreading or analysing too much.

That's a good point... I think I just misread it or analyse it to mean that they're trying to make a masterpiece rather than their masterpiece.

 

Nonetheless, they should be trying to make music that comes from the heart, rather than music that sells records. I know that's an incredibly biased thing to say, as any band that tries to 'make it' is trying to sell as many records as is humanly possible. It just seems that Chris is trying more than ever to sell records rather than make music, which to me is not what Coldplay is about. I dunno... that's just me, maybe ;)

 

i can see what you mean.

but i don't think any of them would ever try to just make music that sells records. they might try to make music that is more mainstream or whatever and that maybe a greater amount of people will like, but i think that would be because they want to connect to as many people as possible, you know? :shrug:

 

i obviously can't control anyone else's thoughts or feelings towards Coldplay's actions and whatnot, but i personally believe that they will always be putting all of the effort they can into their work and that's good enough for me. :P

I'm not worried by those song titles at all really. I wasn't a fan before viva because I didn't really know them before that, but I'm sure I would've found Strawberry Swing a lame name on it's own, and a lot more probably, also Cemeteries of London and Death and all of his Friends sound way to 'goth' and dark on their own. But song titles only get meaning with the songs, I love those names now and feel like they're brilliant names, but that's because they really fit with the songs. So yeah song names say completely nothing about the music.

 

For me personally, I trust Coldplay and I 'know' them well enough to be certain that they'll be true to themselves and won't release anything they're not very excited about. And I'm very certain that if they're very excited about it that I'll like it. It might sound stupid, but it's like when a very good friend recommends something and you're certain you'll like it because you simply like the same kind of things. So I really feel no worries at all, just excitement and curiosity.

i can see what you mean.

but i don't think any of them would ever try to just make music that sells records. they might try to make music that is more mainstream or whatever and that maybe a greater amount of people will like, but i think that would be because they want to connect to as many people as possible, you know? :shrug:

 

Yeah, that's probably it... we'll see what the album is like, hey? Personally, I think it'll be great :)

 

i obviously can't control anyone else's thoughts or feelings towards Coldplay's actions and whatnot, but i personally believe that they will always be putting all of the effort they can into their work and that's good enough for me. :P

 

Me too :)

i can see what you mean.

but i don't think any of them would ever try to just make music that sells records. they might try to make music that is more mainstream or whatever and that maybe a greater amount of people will like, but i think that would be because they want to connect to as many people as possible, you know? :shrug:

 

i obviously can't control anyone else's thoughts or feelings towards Coldplay's actions and whatnot, but i personally believe that they will always be putting all of the effort they can into their work and that's good enough for me. :P

 

I honestly think they'll purely try to make the music they find best and they won't compromise that for the sake of having a greater amount of people to like it. If it happens to be mainstream than it's mainstream, if it happens to be heavy metal it's heavy metal (:lol:) but it being something is just a coincidental consequence of them trying to make the perfect music.

Yeah, that's probably it... we'll see what the album is like, hey? Personally, I think it'll be great :)

 

me too, especially since i loved Christmas Lights so much. i know that it was just a one-off thing and that the songs on LP5 might be totally different, but let's face it: that song was recorded while they were recording LP5, and so i think it's safe to say that there is probably some bit of LP5 that got put in there.

 

I honestly think they'll purely try to make the music they find best and they won't compromise that for the sake of having a greater amount of people to like it. If it happens to be mainstream than it's mainstream, if it happens to be heavy metal it's heavy metal (:lol:) but it being something is just a coincidental consequence of them trying to make the perfect music.

 

oh, yes, i do think that they make music... well, for themselves first and foremost. after all, they are always talking about how in the studio it's easy to forget that other people exist. :P but i just meant that if they do try to appeal to more people, it's not just to make money it's to sort of touch more people's lives or something else that doesn't sound so cheesy. :P

oh, yes, i do think that they make music... well, for themselves first and foremost. after all, they are always talking about how in the studio it's easy to forget that other people exist. :P but i just meant that if they do try to appeal to more people, it's not just to make money it's to sort of touch more people's lives or something else that doesn't sound so cheesy. :P

 

I agree with that (: And I agree with Christmas Lights being amazing :heart: I love that song so much, and ofcourse it has such special meaning to me after having been on the boat trip :heart: I can't wait for LP5 :dance:

 

btw, I love your avi: House/Hugh Laurie is awesome :heart:

I agree with that (: And I agree with Christmas Lights being amazing :heart: I love that song so much, and ofcourse it has such special meaning to me after having been on the boat trip :heart: I can't wait for LP5 :dance:

 

btw, I love your avi: House/Hugh Laurie is awesome :heart:

 

you were on the boat trip? lucky!

 

and thanks :blush: Hugh Laurie is totally my favorite actor :wacky:

you were on the boat trip? lucky!

 

and thanks :blush: Hugh Laurie is totally my favorite actor :wacky:

 

Yeah I know, I feel so blessed to have been on that boat trip!

 

He's mine too! I just really love him (:

I really like the new song titles!

I'm just excited that there's going to be another album, and probably soon! :D

lol what if it's a pun and the title of the album is called Masterpiece? wasnt it supposed to start with an M anyway? If it was the title it makes me think of art and songs like Famous Old Painters. It also kind of works with their art/graffiti concept where a "masterpiece" could be a description of ones feeling of a piece of artwork. This is probably really far off but its late so give me a break :)

lol what if it's a pun and the title of the album is called Masterpiece? wasnt it supposed to start with an M anyway? If it was the title it makes me think of art and songs like Famous Old Painters. It also kind of works with their art/graffiti concept where a "masterpiece" could be a description of ones feeling of a piece of artwork. This is probably really far off but its late so give me a break :)

 

Nope that actually sounds possible :D

hey but didn't they say it would be two words?:thinking:

so masterpiece...somthing

lol master and piece. tricky tricky haha

If this turns out to be it I'm going to laugh. Not because its bad but just because I figured it out due to a lack of sleep :D

For me personally, I trust Coldplay and I 'know' them well enough to be certain that they'll be true to themselves and won't release anything they're not very excited about...

That's true. Isn't LP5 the longest recording in their history? It suppose to be released in December of 2009 (and Christmas Lights definitely from "initial version" of LP5), and they spent another year to re-write and polish it. It should be good. At least.

 

Btw I don't like Christmas Lights, it sounds like VLV follower in a bad meaning.:thinking:

The Great Debate continues...

lol what if it's a pun and the title of the album is called Masterpiece? wasnt it supposed to start with an M anyway? If it was the title it makes me think of art and songs like Famous Old Painters. It also kind of works with their art/graffiti concept where a "masterpiece" could be a description of ones feeling of a piece of artwork. This is probably really far off but its late so give me a break :)

 

If they call LP5 Masterpiece, they/Chris can forget about ever having a nice word said about them in press ever again! :lol: I mean, Chris already has the erroneous reputation of being a self-centered, cocky douche, so a name like that would just confirm all the haters' suspicions :P. I feel like even Kanye wouldn't call an album that :lol:.

 

That's a good point... I think I just misread it or analyse it to mean that they're trying to make a masterpiece rather than their masterpiece.

 

Nonetheless, they should be trying to make music that comes from the heart, rather than music that sells records. I know that's an incredibly biased thing to say, as any band that tries to 'make it' is trying to sell as many records as is humanly possible. It just seems that Chris is trying more than ever to sell records rather than make music, which to me is not what Coldplay is about. I dunno... that's just me, maybe ;)

 

I agree and disagree. I don't think any of them are intentionally making music that sells the most records, I don't think their popularity is anywhere on their goals list. But I do think that because they've found themselves so massively popular since 2005 or so, it's had an effect on what they produce. Since becoming celebrities (or one celebrity, I guess), I think they've had more factors to consider when writing music and putting together albums and putting on concerts and making videos. I guess fame changes people and things inevitably, but I guess I feel like the massive commercial success has made them evolve very quickly. If they'd continued to be mildly popular like they were in 2002-03ish rather than exploding into what they are now, I wonder if they still would have come out with X&Y and VLV in the same way.

 

I didn't word any of that as nicely as I would have liked, so I'm expecting to get attacked now :lol:

TITLES mean nothing to me.... I am in it for the music.............. I don't care if they have a title called "Hairy balls"

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^ I agree with you, :shocked2:

come on now, tennis balls are kinda hairy, y'all (^ and ^^) get your mind outta tha gutta

 

 

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