SERIOUS OPINIONS

[admnistramation]

I admonished the Oracle without sounding like a complete ass. I asked why Chris was writing such shallow music and why the band thinks the fans can't perceive depth.

[Vitamin Z]

I like it - very catchy, and I can see this being quite a popular song globally.

 

Yes, it's not as meaningful as songs from the AROBTTH/Parachutes era but it's still fantastic! For anyone whining that it's too poppy - we know we have awesome classic Coldplay tracks on there, especially Charlie Brown, and it makes sense for Coldplay to release something more mainstream as a single.

 

I think sadly the people with negative opinions are much more vocal than those with positive.

[Guest Osaka Sun]

I... I'm gutted. The Coldplay I know and love are nowhere to be heard on this track. There's a nice bit after the first verse with the piano but that's the only thing I like about the song. The lyrics are a bit generic and it's so damn overproduced.

 

Why, why, why would you put in 'Every tear's a waterfall' in there? Why?

 

It just feels like instead of them making wonderful, heartfelt music that I can relate to they've ended up adding to the massive amount of forgettable, mainstream, radio music that doesn't pull on my heartstrings at all.

 

It's with trepidation that I await the album now.

 

:cry:

[MyFavouriteMemory]

I thoroughly enjoy the lyrics that they tweeted... But as for lyrics I like in this song, that's kind of it. Which makes me sad. Musically it's okay. Not Amazing. Which also makes me sad.

 

I think I would love a stripped down version of this a lot more. Im kinda disappointed. Its an alright song, id give it a 6/10. But for my favorite band.... a very poor effort.

 

Other thoughts: Expected is not Espected.

A live version might be better.

 

And in the night, the stormy night away she flied

(Does it seriously say flied? Like is that real? Flew.Flew.Flew.Sigh)

 

But goodnight

[austengirl]

When Viva la Vida was released, everyone pre-VLV hated it, yet it became a very popular album

When ETIAW was released, everybody hated it, yet it became a very popular song

Now Paradise is released, everybody hates it, yet....

 

 

Exactly. This song will be a huge hit, and the haters can go on hating.

[AnnaElisabeth]

Exactly. This song will be a huge hit, and the haters can go on hating.

 

I don't think it's about whether or not it's going to be a hit or not. It's def going to be a hit - it's mainstream enough for non-fans to like it and Coldplay are big enough to get a lot of airplay.

 

The "hate" (which I think is honest disappointment and expressing of opinions) is because this is not very "them". :shrug: I just expected more.

[Strawberry Swinger]

Why are you a hater if you don't like a song? Grow up, and be more confident about your damn opinion.

[DukeNewcomb]

I don't think it'll be a hit... it's trying very hard to be catchy, but isn't really managing to be...

[JM-42]

When Viva la Vida was released, everyone pre-VLV hated it, yet it became a very popular album

When ETIAW was released, everybody hated it, yet it became a very popular song

Now Paradise is released, everybody hates it, yet....

 

sorry but I was here when VLV (the song) was released and the general response was pretty positive. However, this time we're having mixed opinions (because not everyone dislike it) and I do believe that this song will have a positive response from the mainstream media, it's catchy and very radio-friendly.

[cephaus]

Yeah, you're absolutely right. And I agree with you on every word. I used to listen to Coldplay and always found something to relate to. It was not only really beautiful music, it was meaningful lyrics. And so it was from Parachutes to Viva la Vida. And now we got this. :cry::cry::cry:

WHY, Chris, why do you think that I will relate to this lyrics? Is this poetry, is this art? It's so cheesy... I don't know. Ooooooh- s and a repeating sentence of five words, about a girl expecting the world. Yeah.. metaphors? None.

I'm really disappointed, because I know that the boys put a lot of work in this album, and I waited for it for 3 years.

And it's not I'm not accepting the new direction. I didn't dismiss ETiAW, because I thought it was a one-off thing, and I could forgive one cheesy single. But this, representing the whole album? I don't know what to say.

 

I don't know where would they go with this whole new direction. Clearly they don't get support from most of their old fans. With Viva it was about new things they were trying, with this album it's about really cheesy, plain lyrics and primitive music. I can't belive I'm saying that, because I do love this band, but they need to be told off. Never forget who you are and where do you come from. Coldplay, you are a rock band and you come from britpop.

 

And yeah, Chris, go on hanging out with pop stars spotting your earrings or whatever. It clearly adds to your ability to write great lyrics.

 

 

As I mentioned earlier, I think they're at a stage where it's really become popularity over quality, instead of quality over popularity.. Writing a song for the sake of wanting it to be a big hit, concentrating so hard to "re-make" a Viva La Vida 2.0 with all the singalong gimmicks. Not that Paradise is a bad song, it's a good pop song but Coldplay can really do better. And anyway I didn't know that wanting to get better = being more commercialised.

 

And I agree, I think the band have really started to drift away from what made them originally Coldplay and so unique. Which is sad because it was really, really amazing and what attracted millions of people to listen to them in the first place.

 

Don't get me started with the news about Princess of China (Feat. Rihanna). I really have no idea what to say about that.

 

This whole MX-era feels really off for some reason, and not in a good way. I'm not sure if it's the way everything is being handled (in terms of promotion and marketing) but yeah, it gives me the vibe that the band (or their management) are kind of confused about what they're trying to do.

 

Lastly, I agree that bands should continue to evolve over time to remain fresh and exciting. But if you look at what we're presented with now (so far, at least) and look at what Coldplay was able (and is still capable) to achieve, there's no way you can say that this is progress.

 

It's still evident that they're working hard though, and while I think that experimentation to make new sounds and all are fab, they've really got to be utilised properly to build on Coldplay's strengths, not deprove it.

[Strawberry Swinger]

Want a serious opinion?

 

IT'S CRAP.

 

good one, and pretty honest.

 

First time I've been disappointed in awhile when it comes to Coldplay. Oh and I feel sorry for everyone who still doesn't like VLV... honestly, I think it's their best album. It is flawless. So yeah, I'm disappointed that they went from THAT... to this.

 

 

I agree with you completely. I can't understand someone likes this more than VLV unless they are reaaaally into commercial stuff a lot. I think VLV is their best album too, maybe not my favorite as it is A Rush but VLV is very close. It shows some balls really and a lot of hard work.

 

 

Yeah, you're absolutely right. And I agree with you on every word. I used to listen to Coldplay and always found something to relate to. It was not only really beautiful music, it was meaningful lyrics. And so it was from Parachutes to Viva la Vida. And now we got this. :cry::cry::cry:

WHY, Chris, why do you think that I will relate to this lyrics? Is this poetry, is this art? It's so cheesy... I don't know. Ooooooh- s and a repeating sentence of five words, about a girl expecting the world. Yeah.. metaphors? None.

I'm really disappointed, because I know that the boys put a lot of work in this album, and I waited for it for 3 years.

And it's not I'm not accepting the new direction. I didn't dismiss ETiAW, because I thought it was a one-off thing, and I could forgive one cheesy single. But this, representing the whole album? I don't know what to say.

 

I don't know where would they go with this whole new direction. Clearly they don't get support from most of their old fans. With Viva it was about new things they were trying, with this album it's about really cheesy, plain lyrics and primitive music. I can't belive I'm saying that, because I do love this band, but they need to be told off. Never forget who you are and where do you come from. Coldplay, you are a rock band and you come from britpop.

 

And yeah, Chris, go on hanging out with pop stars spotting your earrings or whatever. It clearly adds to your ability to write great lyrics.

 

 

I agree with this too,soooo much. The instrumental of the song is really nice, to be honest and realistic - it has some great details and it is just very uplifting.But the 30 second preview of the song is actually everything that you can hear in it, singing and lyrics wise. I just thought that there would be a CHORUS. A normal one,but I guess that Chris is trying so hard to escape from it and now it is clear that no song on the album will have a real chorus. I get experimentation and stuff but it just makes the songs less authentic when put together. And another thing that will make them sound the same and it is getting really repetitive and predictable are the ooooooh-ooooh-aaaah-eeeeh's in the songs. And Para-Para-Paradise, Wa-Wa-Waterfall... what is this, some new kind of trick he learned to seduce Rihanna's fans? MaMA MaMA MaMA i just shot a man down, under my umbr-ELLA-ELLA-E-E...

 

The thing that disappoints me is that I KNOW they can do better. I believe in them, and we all do in here. At the end of the day it's their damn thing what they do with their music, I just wish it wasn't this, because they were on the good way to completely break away from the rest. Now this, it sounds like anybody's song, I could actually hear Rihanna singing it.

Oh and somebody please compare this to Moving to Mars. The song that WILL NOT be on the album. angry now...

[Odvan]

Exactly. This song will be a huge hit, and the haters can go on hating.

And what? New Moon is a huge hit - is it a good movie? Or Godzilla?

[mitch323]

I think it is far too quick to dismiss the entire era as pop garbage.

Yea Paradise isn't as good as some of their earlier singles but its still a good song by the boys.

We have to remember that they are still producing songs like UATW and MTM, songs that rival the ballads of their earlier work

I think that we should all wait until the album comes out before we declare them as disappointments.

[Raja]

Thought I'd finally join the site given I spend so much of my online existence here , either ways about the song . I'm a bit meh towards it , probably gonna give it some time to grow on me . Though I do cringe when he says " Every tear a waterfall" , similar to " I'd rather be a comma , than a full stop" . Don't like those two sets of lines at all , but honestly speaking I like the song , strange as it may seem even the Para para repeating . I hated Politik when I first heard it , but it eventually grew to be one of my favorite songs, and I think Paradise could be the same for a select few , maybe not a favorite but certainly a good song.

[Clark]

Has anyone mentioned the similarity of that bridge melody with that Natalie Imbruglia song he co-wrote, Fun?

[colbourne25]

I really love the song... i think it's a grower! lovely melodies and it's something different... Bands DO NOT stay the same and you guys have to accept that... otherwise they'd be boring as bat shit!! this is progress...

 

People saying that the lyrics "every teardrop is a waterfall" nearly made them vomit is absolutely ridiculous... It's a CONCEPT ALBUM people!!!! It's supposed to relate to one another and become one story and concept... may i remind you that major minus has the lyrics :us against the world" in it!!! so get your head out of your ass an appreciate that "every teardrop is a waterfall" is a beautiful line...

 

I think that it was chosen as the single because it's the most radio friendly of the new material... but i think sandwiched in between hurts like heaven and charlie brown that the song could be very fitting to the album and the overall story...

[hooper68]

I'm undecided as yet I'll wait until I've heard it live,I must admit I was a bit surprised by just how commercial sounding it was but I'm sure the album will make up for it.

Also does anyone else think its sounds a bit like "Stop for a minute" by Keane ?

[Strawberry Swinger]

I really love the song... i think it's a grower! lovely melodies and it's something different... Bands DO NOT stay the same and you guys have to accept that... otherwise they'd be boring as bat shit!! this is progress...

People saying that the lyrics "every teardrop is a waterfall" nearly made them vomit is absolutely ridiculous... It's a CONCEPT ALBUM people!!!! It's supposed to relate to one another and become one story and concept... may i remind you that major minus has the lyrics :us against the world" in it!!! so get your head out of your ass an appreciate that "every teardrop is a waterfall" is a beautiful line...

 

I think that it was chosen as the single because it's the most radio friendly of the new material... but i think sandwiched in between hurts like heaven and charlie brown that the song could be very fitting to the album and the overall story...

 

 

no,this is NOT progress.

[DukeNewcomb]

no,this is NOT progress.

 

Seconded.

I don't get why there's people criticising the haters because it doesn't sound like their old stuff, and that they don't like the band progressing and trying different things.

 

People hate it because it's four chords, poor lyrics, excess synths, and is trying to be something they know they're not.

This isn't progress, and I can assure you the people hating this absolutely love Charlie Brown, HLH, UATW and POC, so it's useless jumping on the "you hate progress" bandwagon, because by comparison this is a POOR song.

[Batmotor]

Is Coldplay what it used to be?

 

:(

 

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[Skin&Bones]

My guess is that -- since this is a fansite -- people are going to have stronger opinions about things, hence the black & white standpoints. It's really not god-awful. It's also not the best thing to ever happen.

 

Personally, I don't see much of a downgrade. It's unfortunate they chose it as a single. There are plenty of other songs we've already heard that could've been way better singles. But I've listened to it seven times, and I came to the conclusion that I like it.

 

I'm sorry if my opinion is too centrist. I'd give it a 6 on a good day and a 5 on a bad day. I think a lot of people are trying not to like it.

[Skin&Bones]

Seconded.

I don't get why there's people criticising the haters because it doesn't sound like their old stuff, and that they don't like the band progressing and trying different things.

 

People hate it because it's four chords, poor lyrics, excess synths, and is trying to be something they know they're not.

This isn't progress, and I can assure you the people hating this absolutely love Charlie Brown, HLH, UATW and POC, so it's useless jumping on the "you hate progress" bandwagon, because by comparison this is a POOR song.

 

 

Coldplay=masters of making four chord songs. Actually, Hurts Like Heaven is based on two chords.

[DukeNewcomb]

Coldplay=masters of making four chord songs. Actually, Hurts Like Heaven is based on two chords.

 

HLH masks it's chord progression though through amazing guitar, bass and drums, and it's not just two chords throughout. Here the same four chords are repeated from beginning to end, and they're evident as hell.

[Wickett]

One thing, radio hit.

 

It's obvious that this is what they wanted. A catchy pop song right after ETIAW to get some radio time, and I definitely expect that it will get air time, because it is a simple catchy pop song that non-Coldplay fans will like better.

 

I've listened to it twice now, and it's okay. I'm sure it'll grow on me more, but it isn't at all what I expected. The lyrics are fine with me. The two worst things about it is the constant clap to beat, and the electronic hum (whatever that is). I thought Chris' vocals were very good though.

 

I definitely would have preferred something much more odd and quirky like MM. I guess I'll just have to appreciate this song for what it is, instead of trying to compare it to everything else they've made.

[Artician]

Coldplay=masters of making four chord songs. Actually, Hurts Like Heaven is based on two chords.

 

HLH masks it's chord progression though through amazing guitar, bass and drums, and it's not just two chords throughout.

Here the same four chords are repeated from beginning to end, and they're evident as hell.

 

I agree, it's the clearly noticible repetitive nature of the song that makes it somewhat, dary I say, annoying :nod:

 

BTW:

My serious opinion: I like it, but not as a Coldplay song, it just doesn't give me that Coldplay-chill, like when you listen to Green Eyes or 42 (personal opinion).

The intro is nice, but when the "hip-hop" beat kicks in it's just another pop song.

I do think including the "every tear a waterfall" lyric can be rationalized because of the "concept" album it's on.