twitchy517 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 So when listening to the album, it's pretty obvious AHT is a reprise of MX. Then I listened to UFO more and realized it too used MX. Then I recently realized Major Minus uses it too. Am I going crazy, or is it really used this often? And can anyone else hear MX in other songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James. Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 When is it played in Major Minus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryptophan Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Yeah, I think they said in an interview that U.F.O. was kind of the first song they wrote for the new era, and that the melody is used in quite some other songs. I should listen to Major Minus again, haven't heard it there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafaelchampion Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 So it's Hurts Like Heaven, Princess o China and Paradise. They are all connected. I was about to create a detailed thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauCH Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I can't hear it in MM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafaelchampion Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I posted it on an old thread: I listen to Hurts Like Heaven about a hundred times on a day and I just thought that the ending, the piano part, could give us some idea of another song. Well, today I was coming back from the university, listening to Hurts Like Heaven when I said "Hold on. I know this". Hurts Like Heaven's melody's notes and progression and Princess of China ones are the same. Well, they are not on the same key, nor the same tempo, but if you low HLH's key by a half tone and make it a little slower. You can see it's almost the same. Even it's progression is equal. Try listening like this: Written in graffiti on a bridge in a park / Once upon a time .... Do you ever get the feeling that you're missing the mark / .... as fast as I can (don't know PoC's lyrics) It's so cold, it's so cold / Got to go It's so cold, it's so cold / Got to go This is the verse, now the chorus Yooooooooooooooo... / You could have been the princess, I'd be your king. Could we have a castle and wore a ring but (*Changes the note*) ooooooooou... / Noooooooo, You let(got?) me goooooo. We also have the Lalala part that fits on the solo. And other parts too. I need to analyse it better. I just realized that PoC and Paradise are also connected: The final Oh Oh Ohh Oh Oh OOOOHH part from Paradise, which is different from the others, is also different like the end of Princess of China. When the chords change, the two songs fit completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twitchy517 Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 When is it played in Major Minus? The guitar solo. Listen to the B-side preview they have. You can really hear it in the transition between Major Minus and UFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathondetroit Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Repetition is Obvious So when listening to the album, it's pretty obvious AHT is a reprise of MX. Then I listened to UFO more and realized it too used MX. Then I recently realized Major Minus uses it too. Am I going crazy, or is it really used this often? And can anyone else hear MX in other songs? I think you're definitely on to something here… The theme of these chords repeat quite often. At some point we'll have to go through and identify exactly where each repetition occurs, but it definitely happens in most songs on this album. Take a Song such as "Every Teardrop Is a Waterfall", where the main riff is just two chords. This theme still appears. During the lyrics "You may hurt me bad, but still I'll raise the flag" it's the same chord structure that's introduced in MX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimBou Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Interesting, will have to listen for this more next time through... Of course lyrically you find a similar thing with roses, teardrops, rain, fly etc repeated across different songs. Would be interesting to go into that in more detail some time on another thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowlingfox Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Don't Let it Break Your Heart also has the same motif. Listen during "And..if I lost the map....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuestionsOfScience Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I posted it on an old thread: I just realized that PoC and Paradise are also connected: The final Oh Oh Ohh Oh Oh OOOOHH part from Paradise, which is different from the others, is also different like the end of Princess of China. When the chords change, the two songs fit completely. That's a really good find there! Never noticed that until now, the whole lyrical and melody theme is kind of reprised throughout every song...yet they all sound so different, that's very very clever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafaelchampion Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 It's called Geniality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matan Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 i dont hear it,it could be like that but i dont think so...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathondetroit Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I'm beginning to think this is something Coldplay was very conscious of while making this album. It's no secret that the simplicity of pop songs leads to artists using similar(or identical) chord structures for different songs. I'm sure that Coldplay recognized this pattern in their song writing, and decided to embrace it 100%. Rather than try and write stuff radically different than what comes natural to them, they just gave into this specific catchy hook and decided build the whole album around it. There's obviously a ton of production on this new album, and I think that really helps differentiate each track from one another. The songs are arranged and recorded so well, that it took us this long to recognize how similar they are. Between the different melodies, lyrics, instrumentation, and production, each song seems to stand out quite well on its own. Personally, I think it's quite impressive how dynamic and epic this album is despite the repetition of such simple song structures. Although, that's probably why I've liked Coldplay all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Nip 2 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I can't wait to hear this album! It sounds to mewhat you are all talking about is similar to The Who set up Quadrophenia, if anyone's heard that album. Parts (chord progressions, lyrics, solos, etc) are mixed and matched between songs. Love that album, so I'm excited.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafaelchampion Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I don't think it was conscious. I am sure of it. Like in VLVODAAHF we have some structures in different songs that we almost don't pay attention (like the drums on LiT chorus and on Chinese Sleep Chant for example). I love this. I mean, it's genial! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafaelchampion Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 OH HOLY FUCKING CRAP! IT'S EVERYWHERE! IT'S ON POC, IT'S ON MAJOR MINUS! UFO ITSELF IS AN ACOUSTIC MX! This is fucking brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonkeyz232 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 OH HOLY FUCKING CRAP! IT'S EVERYWHERE! IT'S ON POC, IT'S ON MAJOR MINUS! UFO ITSELF IS AN ACOUSTIC MX! This is fucking brilliant! I just listened to the album again after reading this thread, and I had the exact same epiphany!!!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aschall Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 seriously. r u ok????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carkidder Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 This is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James. Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I don't hear it in Up In Flames :\ I guess that one was written after all the others so it didn't get the MX treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotFever Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 MX, UFO, AHT and DLIBYH fit with that progression. HLH and Princess Of China lyrics fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postcards Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 This is great! First listens it was clear you could hear MX in the songs. :awesome: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 A recurring melody would make sense two of the preludes and UFO, but I don't hear anything in Major Minus. And the "Matching up" of lyrics? That's bollocks, sorry. EDIT: Actually, now I think of it, "Might have to go where they don't know my name" has that same melody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Nip 2 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 That's great! I didn't even notice it! I remember The Who did this on quadrophenia. Coldplay know how to make an album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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