Well, I was aware that there can be big differences between certain states, but reading this really is shocking news to me.

Over here a fired employee could sue his employer if he was fired because of his sexuality, it is a massive discrimination after all and it would soon be all over the media.

Well, I was aware that there can be big differences between certain states, but reading this really is shocking news to me.

Over here a fired employee could sue his employer if he was fired because of his sexuality, it is a massive discrimination after all and it would soon be all over the media.

 

to be honest, although people could be fired here for it, I have never heard of it happening because there would be lawsuits filed against it.

I just wish that this country would join up with the more progressive countries and allow people to be free to marry who they want to marry.

I'm not sure about the laws here so I won't write anything until I check. But, I do know that society's opinion on gay and bi people varies. A lot of them are mature enough to understand that all people should be treated equally not depending on their sexual orientation. However, teenagers usually are against homosexuality, some of them threatening and bullying gay people. Sadly, I haven't met many teenagers who see that as an issue and who support equal rights.

I'm not sure about the laws here so I won't write anything until I check. But, I do know that society's opinion on gay and bi people varies. A lot of them are mature enough to understand that all people should be treated equally not depending on their sexual orientation. However, teenagers usually are against homosexuality, some of them threatening and bullying gay people. Sadly, I haven't met many teenagers who see that as an issue and who support equal rights.

 

Thanks for your response:)

I find though that in America, being gay has become less of an issue among the youth. It's like they know someone that is and are being told that it's not the great big sin that previous generations were told it was. I think the tide is slowly going to turn in this country:)

I'm straight as can be.

Thanks for sharing.

Not a fan of some aspects of the American government myself. Im sure alot of americans agree with me, and people outside of the states.

 

The pledge of allegiance is utter bullshit.

I worked at a camp this summer, and refused to say it during morning flags.

 

There is a lot of gay hate crimes in America, and im sure in other countries. There was one just a few years ago at my uni.

 

Pledge of allegiance is fucking bullshit. There's nothing more American than sitting down during it anyway. I never stand up during it at school.

 

I heard one teacher threatened to cut out his first periods' participation grades if the students didn't stand up for the pledge. Fucking backwards.

Pledge of allegiance is fucking bullshit. There's nothing more American than sitting down during it anyway. I never stand up during it at school.

 

I heard one teacher threatened to cut out his first periods' participation grades if the students didn't stand up for the pledge. Fucking backwards.

 

Wow, what a fucked up teacher.

Wow, what a fucked up teacher.

 

*Patriot

Not surprised to see Mark's posts here..

*Patriot

 

I teach, and I would never force my students to do that.

I actually stand up, but don't put my hand on my heart or anything. They'll get you in trouble if you stay seated. I've been yelled at before.

I teach, and I would never force my students to do that.

 

I know man, I was joking.

 

What happens if you refuse?

American patriotism is ridiculous at times..

No offense intended.

I know man, I was joking.

 

What happens if you refuse?

 

Nothing. We don't have to do the pledge where I teach. It's an alternative program to get your high school diploma. Students come to work and then graduate.

American patriotism is ridiculous at times..

No offense intended.

 

None taken. It is rather obnoxious at times:)

I know man, I was joking.

 

What happens if you refuse?

 

Well in elementary school, we all got up like good little patriots and shouted it as loud as we could, even though we didn't know what "indivisible" meant. I skipped the "under God" bit because I was an atheist rebel though.

 

Didn't go to middle school but I assume that's when the kids started sitting down; first day of high school everyone stood up but then after that almost no one did, although our teacher periodically told us it was disrespectful to talk during it. More people do it this year than last because the teacher's less relaxed, and she won't let people walk around, she makes us either "sit respectfully or stand without talking." It's such a pile of shit. If you're Christian or Jewish you're technically not even allowed to pledge your allegiance to a flag anyway, which makes the "under God" bit sort of stupid, but... well I'm going to stop talking about it, it's a pile of crap, that's all. You aren't supposed to be able to get in trouble for not doing it, I don't think.

 

I don't think that teacher got in trouble though; all the students just stood up during it, I think.

 

American patriotism is ridiculous at times..

No offense intended.

 

American patriotism's crap, we were practically brainwashed in elementary school, I swear. Directly after 9/11 especially.

Well in elementary school, we all got up like good little patriots and shouted it as loud as we could, even though we didn't know what "indivisible" meant. I skipped the "under God" bit because I was an atheist rebel though.

 

Didn't go to middle school but I assume that's when the kids started sitting down; first day of high school everyone stood up but then after that almost no one did, although our teacher periodically told us it was disrespectful to talk during it. More people do it this year than last because the teacher's less relaxed, and she won't let people walk around, she makes us either "sit respectfully or stand without talking." It's such a pile of shit. If you're Christian or Jewish you're technically not even allowed to pledge your allegiance to a flag anyway, which makes the "under God" bit sort of stupid, but... well I'm going to stop talking about it, it's a pile of crap, that's all. You aren't supposed to be able to get in trouble for not doing it, I don't think.

 

I don't think that teacher got in trouble though; all the students just stood up during it, I think.

 

Good point and cool teacher. It really shouldn't matter. Separation of Church and State is what matters.

Good point and cool teacher. It really shouldn't matter. Separation of Church and State is what matters.

 

YES.

 

The government has no right to enforce what the public thinks the morals of the country should be. It's so horrible, it's like the only people who care about seperation of church/state are atheists anyway.

YES.

 

The government has no right to enforce what the public thinks the morals of the country should be. It's so horrible, it's like the only people who care about seperation of church/state are atheists anyway.

 

totally agree:)

I was passing my old elementary school the other day and I could hear the national anthem. I had totally forgotten that they would play the national anthem at my school along with the pledge. Heh.

Absolutely hilarious.

I'm straight as can be.

 

Straight up??:rolleyes:

Not surprised to see Mark's posts here..

 

That doesn't make any sense.:confused:

If that means you assumed I was gay, you're wrong.;)

I've supported this thread since its inception.:cool:

Makes sense to me.