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The Official Club Football 2014-2015 thread

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Messi had a shit world cup as Marandona played the incorrect tactics with him... thats all !

 

To be fair yes that's true but even before the World Cup he's not been amazing for Argentina.

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he said last year he only has it on loan... must be for at least 2 years.. if not forever...

 

How can he take it back? he's not even on the top 5 for Ballon this year. :laugh3:

How can he take it back? he's not even on the top 5 for Ballon this year. :laugh3:

 

 

So is it

 

David Silva

De long

Carlos Tévez

and Mario Bortelli from 2 - 5th...

 

only kidding... people have gone mental here... you would think barca have won another major cup or something

^you wish? :laugh3::laugh3:

 

but kidding aside, the top 5 are: messi, iniesda, xavi, sneijder and forlan. :D

Messi had a shit world cup as Marandona played the incorrect tactics with him... thats all !

 

Uh, no.

 

Messi was so frustrating to watch, the guy wouldn't fucking pass the ball. Maybe he had no faith in the players around him to make those 1-2's he infamously drills his way into the box for Barca, but he was a selfish little bastard during the World Cup. Tactics shouldn't make the difference between a player like Messi playing brilliant and being anonymous, same goes for various other star players during the World Cup (Ronaldo, Rooney, Torres, etc.).

Uh, no.

 

Messi was so frustrating to watch, the guy wouldn't fucking pass the ball. Maybe he had no faith in the players around him to make those 1-2's he infamously drills his way into the box for Barca, but he was a selfish little bastard during the World Cup. Tactics shouldn't make the difference between a player like Messi playing brilliant and being anonymous, same goes for various other star players during the World Cup (Ronaldo, Rooney, Torres, etc.).

 

actually, I agree with this!

He´s a BLUE !

 

 

Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko has wasted no time in stoking the fire between his new club and their cross-city rivals Manchester United.

 

The Bosnian joined City from Wolfsburg for a reported fee of £27m last week.

 

"I have heard a lot about the fans and that most of the people from Manchester are Manchester City fans," the 24-year-old said at a news conference.

 

Premier League leaders United are two points ahead of City in the table, with two games in hand.

 

Since billionaire Arab tycoon Sheikh Mansour completed his takeover in 2009, City's spending has eclipsed that of their local rivals at Old Trafford.

 

City also angered United in the summer of 2009 by displaying a "Welcome to Manchester" poster on completing the transfer of Carlos Tevez from his advisors, the Argentine striker having spent the 2007-08 and 2008-09 campaigns on loan at United, who had deemed an asking price of £25m to be excessive.

 

United manager Sir Alex Ferguson retorted by branding City a "small club" while later describing them as "noisy neighbours" after his side's controversial 4-3 derby victory in September 2009.

 

Dzeko's signing is further proof of City's financial clout and the striker added that he was relishing the prospect of playing for a club he believes are well equipped to match his own ambitions.

 

"I saw something else in Man City. It's a big club and I'm an ambitious player and I think we can have a lot of success together," he continued.

 

"It's a project. I need to say it's a very good team with a very good coach. It was three-and-a-half beautiful years with Wolfsburg and we had a lot of success, winning the league for the first time in our history.

 

"I was very happy there but I wanted to change, try something new and better and that's why I'm here."

 

City manager Roberto Mancini hailed the signing of the Bosnian international, who has scored 66 goals in 111 games in Germany, including 10 goals in 17 league games this season.

 

"I am very happy the club bought Dzeko," Italian Mancini stated. "I think he'll be a very important player for the future of this club.

 

"We wanted him in the summer because we knew he was the perfect player for us. He is different from the other players we have. Now we have a good mix. I hope he can score a lot of goals like in Germany.

 

"I think we spoke with him six months ago for the first time. We wanted to know if there was a chance to buy him but we do this now in January.

 

"It's important because now we are in a good position in the league. With one player like him we can improve in the Premier League and the Europa League. We have more chances in this moment."

 

Although Dzeko's signing is expected to trigger the departures of fellow strikers Emmanuel Adebayor and Roque Santa Cruz, the Bosnian will still form part of an impressive forward unit available to Mancini, alongside Jo, Mario Balotelli and Tevez.

Adopt Arsenal money model say UEFA

 

 

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By Phil Dawkes & Ian Dennis

 

Arsenal have been held up as a shining example by Uefa as European football's governing body prepares to implement tough new financial restrictions.

 

From the 2011-12 season clubs must break even over a rolling three-year period or risk a possible ban from Uefa European competitions.

 

Uefa compared Arsenal's approach to that of clubs with super-rich owners.

 

"What model waits for a knight rider on a horse and then rides away?" said Uefa general secretary Gianni Infantino.

 

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger's meticulous and sensible approach to spending has helped the north Londoners strengthen their finances over the last 10 years, as some of their rivals' own position has weakened.

 

Having moved to the Emirates Stadium in 2006, Arsenal now turn over more than £300m a year (including revenue from property sales) and made a pre tax profit of £35m in 2009.

 

"Ten years ago Arsenal reported less income than Chelsea, Liverpool and Newcastle," Infantino added. "Now it is more than those clubs and in 2009 more than double Newcastle's.

 

"This shows what is possible with good management and careful investment."

 

In recent years, the Premier League has seen an influx of wealthy foreign businessmen acquiring control of clubs and embarking on lavish spending on players.

 

This has left some at risk of failing to adhere to Uefa's impending restrictions.

 

With recent losses of £121m, Manchester City would appear to be the English club with most to do to satisfy Uefa's rules, although one respected football financial blogger has suggested how the club could break even.

 

City, who have embarked on a unprecedented spending in the wake of the 2009 takeover of the club by billionaire Arab tycoon Sheikh Mansour, have already sent club officials to hold talks with European football's governing body to discuss how they can comply with new regulations.

 

Uefa's head of licensing Andrea Traverso stated: "We are in talks with the club, they are aware of the rules and they probably have a strategy to raise their income.

 

 

Platini also does not foresee a problem with City after he revealed he has had personal assurances.

 

"Last year [2010] in Abu Dhabi I met up with the owner of Manchester City and he promised they would live with the rules and regulations."

 

City manager Roberto Mancini admitted on Tuesday that the £27m-signing of Bosnian striker Edin Dzeko from German side Wolfsburg was the end of his spending for the time being.

 

"This is my ideal squad at the moment. We don't need to buy another six or seven players next summer. Maybe two or three," Mancini commented.

 

"We are building a great team at the moment. Every year we want to improve, but with another two or three players next season, no more."

 

There will be some leeway, as, over the first two seasons of the rules, clubs will be allowed to overspend by a total of £37m, which will be reduced on a sliding scale for each three-year reporting period that follows.

 

In addition, clubs will be permitted an unlimited investment in stadium infrastructure and youth academies.

 

Under the new rules, Uefa would place clubs at risk of over-spending in a special category where they are closely monitored.

 

As it stands, Chelsea and both Manchester clubs would be placed in this bracket, although the Red Devils are insistent they would pass the financial fair play rules now.

 

Uefa has previously voiced its specific concern about the financial state of Premier League clubs, some of which - such as Manchester United or Liverpool, prior to their takeover in October last year - have taken on large levels of debt.

 

In addition, clubs continue to live beyond their means and risk falling into serious financial difficulty such as that which befell Leeds within the last decade and more recently Portsmouth, who in February 2010 became the first Premier League club to go into administration.

 

However, Platini insisted that the new rules are not designed to target Premier League clubs in order to curb their success in the Champions League, in which an English club reached the final for five straight years prior to the 2009-10 campaign.

 

"I want to be proud to have been pro-active, and not ignored a problem everyone was aware of, but no one wished to take on," Platini said.

 

The Frenchman also insisted that any clubs who break the rules will have to "face the music".

 

"There will be no witch hunt," he continued. "If a club does not fall in line and does not apply the same rules as everybody else, they would have to live with the consequences."

 

Uefa's latest figures illustrate that clubs across Europe have yet to curb their financial outlay in order to fall in line with the impending restrictions.

 

Its review showed that over half of 655 clubs reported a loss in 2009 and the combined deficit across Europe's 53 football nations was £1bn.

 

Spending on player wages is up almost 10%, with clubs spending 64% of their income on these and other staff expenses.

 

European Club Association chairman Karl Heinz Rummenigge and his 197 members are fully behind Uefa's new proposals. But the German has warned that any such action would be disastrous for the game and described it as "complete meltdown" for a club to be barred entry into the Champions League.

 

With 73 European clubs spending more than 100% of their revenue on wages, Rummenigge said: "[uefa] has embarked on the right path".

 

But the German added: "Something is awry in European club football and when you step on the accelerator something tends to go wrong. We need to step on the brakes and introduce rationale."

 

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So Arsene Wenger's lads may not have won anything for nearly 6 years now but this is no doubt glowing news for the North London club. I find it miraculous that he's been able to be so tight on his spending yet still comfortably find themselves in the top 4 every season. Probably the best run club in world football and with these rules that are set to come into play from next season onwards - we could be seeing Arsenal rise to the top in England and Europe.

 

It's really up to those clubs who find themselves with shocking levels of debt like Manchester United and Barcelona to sort their finances out quickly. Plus Man City have a lot of work to do.

According to Forbes the top 4 clubs in the EPL look like this

 

Man Utd - Total Value - $1.8 billion

- Debt makes up 46% of their value

- Income of $150 million

 

Arsenal - Total Value - $1.1 billion

- Debt makes up 41% of their value

- Income of $102 million

 

Chelsea - Total Value - $600 million

- Debt makes up 8% of their value

- Loss of $73 million

 

Man City - Total Value - $200 million

- they have no debt

- Loss of $56 million

 

Chelsea and Man City have very little debt thanks to their owners. Without them they would be in big trouble. The only way Man Utd is able to justify much of their spending is because they rake in half a billion per year in revenue, much much more than any other EPL club.

According to Forbes the top 4 clubs in the EPL look like this

 

Man Utd - Total Value - $1.8 billion

- Debt makes up 46% of their value

- Income of $150 million

 

Arsenal - Total Value - $1.1 billion

- Debt makes up 41% of their value

- Income of $102 million

 

Chelsea - Total Value - $600 million

- Debt makes up 8% of their value

- Loss of $73 million

 

Man City - Total Value - $200 million

- they have no debt

- Loss of $56 million

 

Chelsea and Man City have very little debt thanks to their owners. Without them they would be in big trouble. The only way Man Utd is able to justify much of their spending is because they rake in half a billion per year in revenue, much much more than any other EPL club.

excellent start for liverpool

 

Blackpool 0-1 Liverpool

 

and look at that, its Torres 3mins

wow poor ball retention makes it 1-1

 

Story of Liverpool's season. Good game though.

According to Forbes the top 4 clubs in the EPL look like this

 

Man Utd - Total Value - $1.8 billion

- Debt makes up 46% of their value

- Income of $150 million

 

Arsenal - Total Value - $1.1 billion

- Debt makes up 41% of their value

- Income of $102 million

 

Chelsea - Total Value - $600 million

- Debt makes up 8% of their value

- Loss of $73 million

 

Man City - Total Value - $200 million

- they have no debt

- Loss of $56 million

 

Chelsea and Man City have very little debt thanks to their owners. Without them they would be in big trouble. The only way Man Utd is able to justify much of their spending is because they rake in half a billion per year in revenue, much much more than any other EPL club.

 

The majority of Arsenal's debt is from the new stadium which they built themselves and didn't need hand-outs from commonwealth games ;)

Blackpool 2-1 Liverpool :o

(DJ Campbell, 70)

 

this might be a night for shocks! (that is if you consider Blackpool beating Liverpool a shock in the current circumstances)

Ipswich 1 - 0 Arsenal, 8 minutes to go. :o :D

 

And I bet the return leg will be Arsenal 6, Ipswich 0 ;)

So first 2 games back for Kenny are 2 defeats...

 

...not the best start for a legend

Blackpool doing the Double over Liverpool

 

Who would have imagined that?

Anytime Liverpool show the slightest sign of improving (1-0 at Old Trafford with a decent yet dull performance showed that) they then automatically go and lose.

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