December 6, 200817 yr Reading all the news and threads here and there is certainly interesting. It makes for good discussion (in most part) and is a bit of a change from 2.5% VAT etc etc Thank you mayurshikotra for the link to setlists. Found one from the UK leg, great! Also thanks for the greeting kmm1482. Morpheus - this is more aimed at you but as you're not available here's my dumb question for the day: Wouldn't you normally file suit in your home town? Joe is from San Francisco and I'm sure they have a court system there. Can this also be a Sony vs EMI or are they one and the same now? P.S @ anyone (and off topic) - where can I get hold of the vocal version of Life In Technicolour? I'm not an iTunes user....
December 6, 200817 yr Even if the melodies are similar, Coldplay made it famous with their song, they deserve the money.
December 6, 200817 yr :laugh3: ...ok:(..........:P That dude doesnt deserve anything!!!....... you sound like a groupie,grow up kid
December 6, 200817 yr Again read what I actually said, that statement was prefaced by saying that IF Coldplay didn't plagarize THEN they deserve every penny earned from that song.
December 6, 200817 yr That dude doesnt deserve anything!!!....... you sound like a groupie,grow up kid Ummmmm nope i dont feel like it!.......And again he doesnt deserve shit!
December 6, 200817 yr Dejan - easy on Rush of Vida geez...lol i'm a fan of the band but i can't stand the groupies! Coldplay didnt steal anthing!..... they deserve the money! That dude doesnt deserve anything!
December 6, 200817 yr Again read what I actually said, that statement was prefaced by saying that IF Coldplay didn't plagarize THEN they deserve every penny earned from that song. they already got MILLIONS from viva la vida,don't worry
December 6, 200817 yr Well since Snatchfan can't seem to respond when real musicians make points i'm goin to bed for the night.
December 6, 200817 yr Here is a interesting article http://www.spin.com/articles/coldplay-sued-plagiarism
December 6, 200817 yr This needs to get settled quickly. If you can not detect a similarity, at least in that one section (you all know what I am talking about by now), you are deaf. First, Chris Martin specifically (he writes the lyrics and this is a vocal melody that is in question) needs to be honest about whether it is a coincidence or a conscious effort that a section of Viva la Vida sounds like the Satriani song. If it is not a coincidence, Coldplay should have asked the man if they could sample his music and paid him accordingly. Now that it is after the fact, they may be court ordered to pay Satriani adequate compensation. With that said, I think we are walking a fine line between "inspiration" and "plagiarism." I do not want these issues ending up in court because it will be never ending. I can turn on the radio and find a million examples of artists who have copied (or stole from) other artists. Are we going to sue every one of them? I read a quote by Tom Petty where he said he could sue several artists (I think he referenced The Strokes) for plagiarism, however, would not do it unless he felt that the artist was directly stealing. Clearly, Viva la Vida is a completely different song than the Satriani tune. I wish Satriani would just leave it at that. Also, I think taking legal action days after the Grammy nominations is as low as you can go. For the future, Coldplay needs to operate on the honor system (if, in fact, it is intentional), and Satriani needs to do something besides tying up the courts.
December 6, 200817 yr i'm a fan of the band but i can't stand the groupies! Coldplay didnt steal anthing!..... they deserve the money! That dude doesnt deserve anything! :laugh3:...Its funny u think im a groupie cause im not even close to being a groupie.......
December 6, 200817 yr This needs to get settled quickly. If you can not detect a similarity, at least in that one section (you all know what I am talking about by now), you are deaf. First, Chris Martin specifically (he writes the lyrics and this is a vocal melody that is in question) needs to be honest about whether it is a coincidence or a conscious effort that a section of Viva la Vida sounds like the Satriani song. If it is not a coincidence, Coldplay should have asked the man if they could sample his music and paid him accordingly. Now that it is after the fact, they may be court ordered to pay Satriani adequate compensation. With that said, I think we are walking a fine line between "inspiration" and "plagiarism." I do not want these issues ending up in court because it will be never ending. I can turn on the radio and find a million examples of artists who have copied (or stole from) other artists. Are we going to sue every one of them? I read a quote by Tom Petty where he said he could sue several artists (I think he referenced The Strokes) for plagiarism, however, would not do it unless he felt that the artist was directly stealing. Clearly, Viva la Vida is a completely different song than the Satriani tune. I wish Satriani would just leave it at that. Also, I think taking legal action days after the Grammy nominations is as low as you can go. For the future, Coldplay needs to operate on the honor system (if, in fact, it is intentional), and Satriani needs to do something besides tying up the courts. Exactly...that why i think they didnt copy it cause if they would have heard it they would have asked the guy and paid him just like they did with the single Talk!....
December 6, 200817 yr Here is a interesting article http://www.spin.com/articles/coldplay-sued-plagiarism It's great that at least this article plays the songs in their original contexts, easier to show that they're completely different, especially the chorus coldplay never ripped-off, or even heard.
December 6, 200817 yr Does anyone know how long court proceedings have taken to be settled in the past?
December 6, 200817 yr Eternity by what I hear, luckily nowadays they're letting musicians record in court, so LP5 isn't in jeopardy. ;)
December 6, 200817 yr and another http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/686391/Coldplay_Accused_Of_Plagerism_On_Youtube.html
December 6, 200817 yr :laugh3: omg.. ok, see - this guitarists is actually nobodym i mean, really - nor me nor my friends ever heard of him....but well done! now that he lodged his claim, I went on youtube and discovered him :laugh3: good advertising company..didnt like it though. there is nithing to worry, absolutely no way he is going to win a case that has no grounds ( youtube comparison is edited) and no means ( coldplay are billionaries)... so... get lost "guitar legend" lol :laugh3:
December 6, 200817 yr Just as with Creaky Boards.....all the accusing will be massive publicity and make the front pages. When he gets fuck all and the band are cleared, it will appear in some little 2" colume on page 150 at the back of some music magazine and people will only remember the "Coldplay stole that guy's song" part and not the outcome part. Creaky Boards singer came out and admitted they did it for the publicity, but was that the lead story all over the internet, NO. The same will happen with this.
December 6, 200817 yr This needs to get settled quickly. If you can not detect a similarity, at least in that one section (you all know what I am talking about by now), you are deaf. First, Chris Martin specifically (he writes the lyrics and this is a vocal melody that is in question) needs to be honest about whether it is a coincidence or a conscious effort that a section of Viva la Vida sounds like the Satriani song. If it is not a coincidence, Coldplay should have asked the man if they could sample his music and paid him accordingly. Now that it is after the fact, they may be court ordered to pay Satriani adequate compensation. With that said, I think we are walking a fine line between "inspiration" and "plagiarism." I do not want these issues ending up in court because it will be never ending. I can turn on the radio and find a million examples of artists who have copied (or stole from) other artists. Are we going to sue every one of them? I read a quote by Tom Petty where he said he could sue several artists (I think he referenced The Strokes) for plagiarism, however, would not do it unless he felt that the artist was directly stealing. Clearly, Viva la Vida is a completely different song than the Satriani tune. I wish Satriani would just leave it at that. Also, I think taking legal action days after the Grammy nominations is as low as you can go. For the future, Coldplay needs to operate on the honor system (if, in fact, it is intentional), and Satriani needs to do something besides tying up the courts. Thank you.
December 6, 200817 yr This needs to get settled quickly. If you can not detect a similarity, at least in that one section (you all know what I am talking about by now), you are deaf. First, Chris Martin specifically (he writes the lyrics and this is a vocal melody that is in question) needs to be honest about whether it is a coincidence or a conscious effort that a section of Viva la Vida sounds like the Satriani song. If it is not a coincidence, Coldplay should have asked the man if they could sample his music and paid him accordingly. Now that it is after the fact, they may be court ordered to pay Satriani adequate compensation. With that said, I think we are walking a fine line between "inspiration" and "plagiarism." I do not want these issues ending up in court because it will be never ending. I can turn on the radio and find a million examples of artists who have copied (or stole from) other artists. Are we going to sue every one of them? I read a quote by Tom Petty where he said he could sue several artists (I think he referenced The Strokes) for plagiarism, however, would not do it unless he felt that the artist was directly stealing. Clearly, Viva la Vida is a completely different song than the Satriani tune. I wish Satriani would just leave it at that. Also, I think taking legal action days after the Grammy nominations is as low as you can go. For the future, Coldplay needs to operate on the honor system (if, in fact, it is intentional), and Satriani needs to do something besides tying up the courts. I agree.
December 6, 200817 yr Could us Coldplayers somehow take charge on this issue? I mean we all know that Satriani losing isnt going to be publicized at all? The media is going to tarnish the image of our favorite band. What are the odds that a few thousand angry emails(or one really good one) to magazines about not publicizing the truth will influence them to be more fair to Coldplay? I'm guessing none, but what are others thoughts? Coldplay don't deserve to be dragged through the dirt.
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