C'mon people.... Chord progressions are one thing, however when you listen to them mashed together on the YouTube link, you have to admit it is a clean ripoff of Joe's song. Dont badmouth the man, I am sure his record company is the one who made this happen. Just my take................

Coldplay has a fanbase that spans many age groups and many of the people who post on here are young, you can't come onto a Coldplay fan board and expect the conversation to be completely devoid of emotion. Many of our posters haven't heard of him. That doesn't make them ignorant or deserving of scorn, it just makes them young and not as wise as others may be.

 

I agree that pouring scorn on Satriani isn't the way to go, but is inevitable, surely. On a board of fans that love a band. Coming here and judging people you don't know as 'morons' is just as bad as them judging Satriani for suing Coldplay ;)

 

The only thing I will say is this, if Satriani doesn't think Coldplay deliberately stole the melody, if he likes them, doesn't want the publicity or need the money, then why sue? There is a reason for it...and a reason it has taken him over six months to do so. :)

People should listen to both songs separetely. The youtube video had been edited so that both songs have the same tempo and key, which they don't, so they sound more similar than they really are.

it sounds like a coincidence to me

seriously, OASIS is way worse

How do u guys know Coldplay has heard of him or even that song!.....Anything is possible so its possible that Coldplay didnt hear that song!.....I believe that they didnt cause like someone said with the Talk single they asked permissin and did all the legal things they needed to do so if they did hear that song why didnt they just ask the that guy if they could use it like they did with the song talk!..........What really pisses me off about the whole thing is that this guy had like 6 months to sue and he didnt and know hes doing it!......So that being said I THINK THE GUYS AN ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

C'mon people.... Chord progressions are one thing, however when you listen to them mashed together on the YouTube link, you have to admit it is a clean ripoff of Joe's song. Dont badmouth the man, I am sure his record company is the one who made this happen. Just my take................

 

I am pretty sure the record company could not sue without consulting the artist first, but I might be wrong. As for the similarities, there are even more similarities between Satriani and that other spanish band, so it is not a clear rip off. It´s just a very simple widely-used chord progression...

How do u guys know Coldplay has heard of him or even that song!.....Anything is possible so its possible that Coldplay didnt hear that song!.....I believe that they didnt cause like someone said with the Talk single they asked permissin and did all the legal things they needed to do so if they did hear that song why didnt they just ask the that guy if they could use it like they did with the song talk!..........What really pisses me off about the whole thing is that this guy had like 6 months to sue and he didnt and know hes doing it!......So that being said I THINK THE GUYS AN ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

 

I could not agree more, hence i think this thing will blow over very soon...and let´s cross our fingers for Coldplay snatching some of those 7 grammys ;)

people actually signed up for the forum to protect this guy? :rolleyes:

coldplay is way too big to do something as stupid as that.. because if it was intentional they must be pretty stupid to think that nobody would find out...

 

and really, i dont think that's the case. :)

so lets all chill and let this guy get his kicks from it, cuz we all know there is no way in hell he could win against the guys. :)

Remember when John Fogerty had to defend one of his own songs that he had written back in the CCR days.... It was a hell of a fight as I remember..........

 

I just wish this was not happening. Coldplay are great artists... Satriani is a guitar god....

I think morpheus is right when he says Satriani just likes to play the guitar, and it's not his intention having attention. i downloaded the Satriani's song [ i liked it ! ] and I think there's few of similarity, but it doesn't mean Coldplay plagiarised the song to Satriani. All the time is possible that a band takes a rhythm of a song of another guys, when you listen a song much time you've got it in the deepest of your head, even to the musicians. Anyway, I'm a f***ing fan of Coldplay, I don't find plagiarism, I think this matter is no gonna go far, don't get annoyed and offend to Satriani, he's one of the best guitarists...

 

Just love Coldplay! =P

C'mon people.... Chord progressions are one thing, however when you listen to them mashed together on the YouTube link, you have to admit it is a clean ripoff of Joe's song. Dont badmouth the man, I am sure his record company is the one who made this happen. Just my take................

 

Different chords, different key, different notes, different speed, different melody, different rythm. Whatever similarity there is is purely coincidental. I noticed in the you-tube comparison that they tamper with the audio speed and pitch to make it seem similar. If you tried you could probably find a dozen lesser known indie bands who came up with the same melody by pure accident (I'm mean it's essentially four or five notes), but they didn't write the biggest song in the world right now did they?

SHIT! My teacher mentioned this today, and I was like "no, that blew over a LONG time ago"... I thought he was talking about the Creaky Boards fiasco! I guess I was wrong... :uhoh:

 

...Now what? :\

It did blow over but that dumbass all of a sudden wanted to sue and he did and now its all over the news!......I wouldnt have been that pissed if he did it like 6months ago but now im really mad cause they got all this grammy noms and there getting recognized for something great they did and now hw comes and its like hes trying to take it away!!!

i hate the world

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I was thinking at it seems like Chris and the boys arent worried about it(that or they know how to hide it well!)...So if there not worried about it...we shouldnt be worried about it!

I'm sure Coldplay's management will handle this, remember how quickly they came back with the Creaky Boards? They brought up all of that evidence showing Chris wasn't at the concert, and that the song had been written beforehand... and that wasn't even a lawsuit! They'll assemble a good legal team and take this guy DOWN :P

C'mon people.... Chord progressions are one thing, however when you listen to them mashed together on the YouTube link, you have to admit it is a clean ripoff of Joe's song. Dont badmouth the man, I am sure his record company is the one who made this happen. Just my take................

 

The song has been modified so it can have the same tempo and key, don't fall for idiocy like this please, people try to make the boys look bad when they didn't do anything wrong.

 

The mashup is total BS because it was staged to sound alike.

I'm first and foremost a Coldplay fan but my OH introduced me to Satriani when we first started going out and although his music isn't necessarily my usual taste, I find him fascinating to watch and have seem him live, he is a great performer and a brilliant writer. He is also an amazing teacher and it wouldn't surprise me if guitarists that Chris and the boys look up to or have looked up to in the past have themselves been taught by a line of previous Satriani pupils/admirers!

 

I think its quite pathetic that a lot of you are just willing to slam Satriani for what he is doing without even listening to a single one of his tracks?! If I had to choose it would be hands down Coldplay don't get me wrong, but this is a fucking massive industry and if at the end of the day Satriani is being advised to sue and earn money that he (partly) rightfully considers his then so be it, all we can do is sit back and let the judges decide.

 

Personally I do not think Coldplay would of obviously intended to steal the melody, neither do I even think they have unconsciously done it - I think it happens to be a coincidence, and if thats the case hopefully the court case will resolve it :) If not I'm sure the boys wont be too miffed, after all they have millions in the bank and plenty of fans who know otherwise ;)

 

I just think its a bit sad that people automatically jump to the conclusion that Satriani is a nobody with his "fingers in his ass" - he's an incredibly talented guy, who is respected and admired by millions across the globe... has been for decades - and afterall, if you had wrote something then a few years later a remarkably similar song was produced would you not have your doubts?

 

What if, down the line, a band is formed that has immense success - I'm talking along the lines of the Beatles... and one of their tracks has a chorus that sounds really similar to Clocks? Which fans will be stamping their feet in tantrum then?

A few things come across my mind when I heard about this....

 

1) Is he suing the Creaky Boards for copying his song? Obviously they must have copied off of him since they wrote their song after him and they said Coldplay copied their song, right? Wouldn't it make sense that he goes after Creaky Boards? My guess is he is not going after them because there's no money there.

 

2) The timing of this is just so wrong. IMO, and I am not trying to diss him, but any respectable musician/person would file suit right away if they feel their music was illegally copied and not wait half of year to file suit. Of course, waiting all that time allows the earnings build up which means he can "get" more if ruled in his favor.

 

Ex...Different musician but when Avril Lavigne had that song "Girlfriend" a band went after her right away but this guy didn't do that AFAIK.

 

3) He wants this to go to be tried by a jury, well, if I was a juror I would already have doubts about his claim. I would doubt the timing of his claim and the fact that he waited as long as he did to file a claim.

 

4) Finally, I really don't see that much similarity between the two songs that warrants this type of action.

Different chords, different key, different notes, different speed, different melody, different rythm. Whatever similarity there is is purely coincidental. I noticed in the you-tube comparison that they tamper with the audio speed and pitch to make it seem similar. If you tried you could probably find a dozen lesser known indie bands who came up with the same melody by pure accident (I'm mean it's essentially four or five notes), but they didn't write the biggest song in the world right now did they?

I think you should listen to both original recordings.. The tempo is similiar, so is the pitch... I have been playing guitar for a long time... the key is the same too.... dude.... denial.

FUCK JOE!!!!!!!!!

edit* yes i know its not nice to say but im just really mad at this dude!

That's not nice to say.

 

One more thing...no record company is advising him to sue. Record companies do not do that. They're only interested in suing if the music is downloaded illegally. They have no concerns about artists and their work. All of that business is left to the artist and if they care enough to sue than it's up to them and not the record companies because they are not getting any money out of it.

"Different chords, different key, different notes, different speed, different melody, different rythm. Whatever similarity there is is purely coincidental"

 

Agreed. IMHO there is enough there to gives grounds to file a lawsuit (certainly more than Creaky Boards had), but the evidence of intent is what's always hard to prove in these cases.

 

" But if you feel blind rabid fandom overtaking you and you feel compelled to disparage Satriani, at least get your facts straight and don't look like an ignorant moron. Saying nobody knows who he is just shows some of us that you really don't have much knowledge about music in general. Or perhaps you've never picked up Rolling Stone or read any articles about the great musicians of our age."

 

I don't mean to disrespect Satch, but I think some of his supporters on this thread overestimate his reknown and regard. The genre of instrumental prog rock he plays has a limited audience. That in in of itself is not a bad thing at all, but keep in mind that the appeal of thart type of music is mainly built around technical expertise and or guitar tricks. The bulk ofthe audience for this is mainly composed of people who know/play guitar and like to wank out on this technical stuff (and I don't mean that in a negative way). For laypeople (in the sense meaning people who aren't as guitar informed or whatever), are less likely to be impressed by tat type of playing, and thus think little of it. So...when people here say they are unimpressed with Satch they are likely not lying, they're just evaluating his music on different terms than his fans (as I would imagine many of Satch's fans' do with Coldplay's music.)

 

As for myself, I respect his technical skill a great deal, but find that style of playing to be little more than a formal exersise. Regardless, the fact remains that Satch is virtually unkown outside of certain circles (and he likely wants it this way as he goes out o his way to avoid the hype and spotlight that make other musicians household names.) For good or bad, to the vast majority of people he is indeed a "nobody" (meaning they have never heard of him, not that he is in any way bad...)

I have never heard of this Joe Satriani in my life, so to the guy on page 5 who was arguing that he is more well known... um no. Also I have a theory that all these random "Joe" fans are probably Joe Satriani himself.. he's made some accounts here to defend his name, since he probably doesn't have any fans to do it for him.

it's just a freakin' coincidence. i mean, it really doesn't sound that similar to me at all.

 

maybe i'm just biased. :P

 

but i'm sure coldplay has a team of lawyers who are going to make sure he doesn't get shit.