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well first, I highly doubt Chris would steal someone else music

and why demand coldplay now that they have the grammys nominations?

That's what makes the whole thing a bit suspect to me. It seems to me that Satriani's timing in actually filing the suit is near perfect timing to ensure maximum publicity. Could be coincidence, but it's a bit fishy that the timing worked out so perfect...:dozey:

the article showed up as a link on AOL now... :dozey:

 

http://www.spinner.com/2008/12/05/joe-satriani-sues-coldplay/

 

:edit: I can't believe it, the "side by side" listen they show is of the clearly altered you-tube video.

"the article showed up as a link on AOL now... "

 

:dozey::dozey::dozey:

first off the coldplay song is in a lower key (im sure someone already mentioned this within the thread) on the first listen of that youtube video i could tell chris' voice was higher than usual, for them to show the similarities of the two songs. i highly doubt it will win in court. it is VERY hard to win cases like these where all you're trying to prove is plagiarism within melodies and not something more tangible, like lyrics. even though i agree both songs do have similar melodies within them -- this is an inevitable thing to happen within music from time to time when you're in certain keys and just naturally are going to thus chose certain notes within that key. i would be really surprised if satriani won and i think it's really silly he's even bothering. i'm sure if it was a band that wasn't as huge as coldplay he wouldn't even bother.

Nothing like a good ol' law suit to spark a bunch of interest in Coldplaying.com!

Just have to say to all the diehard CP fans...Don't Panic!

Coldplay didn't purposely steal Joe's song...

Joe's just being possessive and maybe alittle bit paranoid.

As others have said here, it will probably be settled out of court.

This isn't going to break Coldplay.

How do u guys know Coldplay has heard of him or even that song!.....Anything is possible so its possible that Coldplay didnt hear that song!.....I believe that they didnt cause like someone said with the Talk single they asked permissin and did all the legal things they needed to do so if they did hear that song why didnt they just ask the that guy if they could use it like they did with the song talk!..........What really pisses me off about the whole thing is that this guy had like 6 months to sue and he didnt and know hes doing it!......So that being said I THINK THE GUYS AN ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

 

I think you'd be hard pressed finding a guitarist from any genre who *hasn't* heard Joe Satriani.

"Coldplay didn't purposely steal Joe's song...

Joe's just being possessive and maybe alittle bit paranoid.

As others have said here, it will probably be settled out of court.

This isn't going to break Coldplay"

 

What gets me is the fact that this whole thing is just fodder for the meatheads that hate Coldplay to bitch and moan even more. Just look at the purely hateful tone of some of the posts on that AOL post. Even if a band did plagiarize, nothing really justifies the kind of venom directed at them personally in some posts. It's just really negative vibes..:(

 

"I think you'd be hard pressed finding a guitarist from any genre who *hasn't* heard Joe Satriani."

 

Heard yes. Heard extensively, perhaps not. I'm a guitarist and have been one for over a decade now and while I've certainly heard Satriani's music, I can't say I've heard more than a few pieces of it. That style of music just really turns me off and I'm unable to get into it at all. If something's not really your scene, you probably wn't listen to it extensively, professional musician or not.

The main issue here is whether or not a LAWSUIT is warranted and also the highly suspicious timing of that lawsuit. In the US, you can file a civil lawsuit over anything without having to prove any sort of merit to your claim before filing. Civil lawsuits are expensive, they make lawyers richer than any plaintiff, and they are emotionally draining and time-consuming. Satriani is an asshole for filing a lawsuit, and his lawyer is a bigger one. In my opinion, one line of his stupid song sounds vaguely similar to VLV. Doesn't sound ANYTHING like lawsuit material to me. Civil law in the US needs to be cleaned up, and I'm sorry to see Coldplay have to suffer through this ridiculous legal system of ours. FUCK SATRIANI AND HIS LAWYER!! WHAT A WHINER!

I think you'd be hard pressed finding a guitarist from any genre who *hasn't* heard Joe Satriani.

 

Jesus, would you just go sleep with this jerk and get out of here already?

I bet ten bucks that this Joe Satriani will back out at the last moment. It's been like the 100th time that unsuccesful artists have tried to steal profits from the band for their own personal use.

 

People measure success in different ways, Joe has great success and is renowned amongst his peers.

 

It's kind of like saying a professor whom is looked upon by all of his peers as someone to be revered is less successful then a guy who appears on a science show on TV and garners a lot of fans.

 

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Jesus, would you just go sleep with this jerk and get out of here already?

 

 

I've already slept :)

 

I'm just here to be the little angel voice to all the little devil voices of people who blindly accept Coldplay could do no wrong :)

"Jesus, would you just go sleep with this jerk and get out of here already?"

 

Even if you don't agree with him, Satchfan has made some valid points, and has done so in a (mostly) respectful manner. He has as much right to voice his opinion as anyone else here. (though I'm a a bit of a loss as to why he wants to considering he's not going to win many converts around here...)

 

"I'm just here to be the little angel voice to all the little devil voices of people who blindly accept Coldplay could do no wrong :)"

 

For my part, I never said they could do no wrong, only that I don't believe they did wrong in this specific situation.

**cough** yeah, ok, whatever Satchfan. Job done. Go back to sleep with Satriani's lawyer now. Oh, and you got your adjectives switched. You would be the "devil" to the "angels" who appreciate Coldplay's music. No one is blind here, and we didn't advertise for a saviour to come and make us all see again. Bye.

"Jesus, would you just go sleep with this jerk and get out of here already?"

 

Even if you don't agree with him, Satchfan has made some valid points, and has done so in a (mostly) respectful manner. He has as much right to voice his opinion as anyone else here. (though I'm a a bit of a loss as to why he wants to considering he's not going to win many converts around here...)

 

"I'm just here to be the little angel voice to all the little devil voices of people who blindly accept Coldplay could do no wrong :)"

 

For my part, I never said they could do no wrong, only that I don't believe they did wrong in this specific situation.

 

I'm not trying to gain any converts, just rebut some of the Satriani bashing going on.

 

I have, from reading this thread, noticed Coldplay have been the attention of a lot of plagiarism accusations, this strikes me as rather odd for a band of it's popularity. Sure, you could argue that away by saying all the other artists are just after money but it doesn't seem to happen to many other large bands. Perhaps it's the generic nature of rock?

"It doesn't happen to many other large bands?" You really need to research that statement further. Civil lawsuits like this one happen every day to big artists. I really can't believe you seriously said that. You don't like Coldplay, and you love this Joe Satriani guy. WE GOT IT. I just hope Joe enjoys his dimes while his lawyer basks in the millions he'll be getting no matter how this lawsuit ends.

"It doesn't happen to many other large bands?" You really need to research that statement further. Civil lawsuits like this one happen every day to big artists. I really can't believe you seriously said that. You don't like Coldplay, and you love this Joe Satriani guy. WE GOT IT. I just hope Joe enjoys his dimes while his lawyer basks in the millions he'll be getting no matter how this lawsuit ends.

 

 

I'm not refuting that it doesn't happen to other bands, I just mean to the extent it is happening with Coldplay, and from other largeish respected artists, not just John Smith, the guy who sold three records and never made it anywhere out to grab cash.

 

I'm also not argueing that any of you should "convert" to another artist or the merits of either band/artist.

"I have, from reading this thread, noticed Coldplay have been the attention of a lot of plagiarism accusations, this strikes me as rather odd for a band of it's popularity. Sure, you could argue that away by saying all the other artists are just after money but it doesn't seem to happen to many other large bands. Perhaps it's the generic nature of rock?"

 

Personally, I think it's a natural outgrowth of the hatred that exists is some quarters and the desire to see them as one poster on the AOL thread put it "roasted alive". It's always seemed odd (and truthfully a little sad) that with this band, dislike of the music seems to carry over into an intense hatred of the band as people. I even have to be somewhat careful about who I admit I like them or am influenced by them to, as many times other musicians have given me the "stink eye" (or worse) over my simple admission of being a fan. Again nt merely a "their music sucks" kind of attitude but a deeper hatred usually seen in much more serious fields than music. Personally, If I were one of the Coldplay guys,I don't think even all the money and success they've attained would enable me to put up with some of the things hurled their way over the years

 

Sure they're not the most daring, experimental, or innovative band in the world, but they make catchy pop tunes that I truly believe are the function of four guys who love playing music, and seem like a bunch of nice guys who genuinely deserve success. (I might add that I've heard similar things from many people about Satriani's personality over the years.)

 

As an aside, I think this anti-Coldplay sentiment is a large reason so many here are so eager to defend the band so strongly and bash anyone they see as a threat. Most of the people here love and are moved by this band (as can be expected of any website of this nature), so it gets to us after a while reading some of the attacks on the band elsewhere. It's only natural that some of us would do whatever we could to keep this board one of the few places where the majority opinion of the band is not as a bunch of poncy sheep molesters...

 

Lastly, let me say that though I don't believe Coldplay intentionally plagaiarized, the similarity in the chord progression of the two songs makes me concede that Joe perhaps does deserve a wedge of the royalties, the article Iread made it seem like he was seeking massive punative damages, which if true, does make the whole thing a bit of a cash grab and Satriani a bit of a tool.

Hmm, I gotta say this has me a little worried. The melodies do sound similar but I highly doubt Coldplay would purposely plagiarize, It's just not their style. I hope this doesn't turn out badly for them.

 

What gets me is the fact that this whole thing is just fodder for the meatheads that hate Coldplay to bitch and moan even more. Just look at the purely hateful tone of some of the posts on that AOL post. Even if a band did plagiarize, nothing really justifies the kind of venom directed at them personally in some posts. It's just really negative vibes..:(

 

Lol. I don't know what it is about AOL, but underneath every single article, it's like a congregation of the biggest idiots across the entire net (twice as bad as your regular ignorant you-tube poster). Post after post you just get nothing but the most extreme, highly disagreeable opinions, unlike anything else I've seen short of a neo-nazi convention.

"Post after post you just get nothing but the most extreme, highly disagreeable opinions, unlike anything else I've seen short of a neo-nazi convention."

 

Sadly, that's neither joking nor hyperbole...:\

OH come on! I mean, yes I'll admit three chords in the same progression are more or less the same (though they are different chords so... right there the arguments out the window).

 

This is just silly! Almost as silly as Roger Waters claiming that Andrew Lloyd Webber copied him cause they both used Chromatic Scales. Sorry guys, but a few notes are not going to cut it.

 

Its not like that Madonna song that sounds nearly identical to the Victoria Beckham track...

 

; )

 

Oh and Ray Parker Junior ripped off Huey Lewis and Michael Jackson Ripped of Hall and Oates... why is it that every time an artist has a mega hit another artist tries to claim they did it first?

Not to mention all the plagiarism scandals Noel Gallagher has had over the years (of course with Noel he;ll freely and gleefully admit which parts he stole and from where):laugh3:

Satchfan, why would you come to a Coldplay fansite just to bug us? We noticed you don't like Coldplay and obviously we do. Can you get off? Because we're not changing our opinions. Nothing will be done. It'll just be a chaotic fight. Really there isn't much of a point.

Some of these artists may have gotten the idea from Chris's X&Y interviews where he talks about their idea of inspiration being more like plagiarism. Even though, who honestly would've associated "running up that hill" with SOS?, Muse with fix you? or Lost! with a blur song? As I said, if coldplay rips anyone off, there'll always be the first to tell you, even if you never suspect it.

"I have, from reading this thread, noticed Coldplay have been the attention of a lot of plagiarism accusations, this strikes me as rather odd for a band of it's popularity. Sure, you could argue that away by saying all the other artists are just after money but it doesn't seem to happen to many other large bands. Perhaps it's the generic nature of rock?"

 

Personally, I think it's a natural outgrowth of the hatred that exists is some quarters and the desire to see them as one poster on the AOL thread put it "roasted alive". It's always seemed odd (and truthfully a little sad) that with this band, dislike of the music seems to carry over into an intense hatred of the band as people. I even have to be somewhat careful about who I admit I like them or am influenced by them to, as many times other musicians have given me the "stink eye" (or worse) over my simple admission of being a fan. Again nt merely a "their music sucks" kind of attitude but a deeper hatred usually seen in much more serious fields than music. Personally, If I were one of the Coldplay guys,I don't think even all the money and success they've attained would enable me to put up with some of the things hurled their way over the years

 

Sure they're not the most daring, experimental, or innovative band in the world, but they make catchy pop tunes that I truly believe are the function of four guys who love playing music, and seem like a bunch of nice guys who genuinely deserve success. (I might add that I've heard similar things from many people about Satriani's personality over the years.)

 

As an aside, I think this anti-Coldplay sentiment is a large reason so many here are so eager to defend the band so strongly and bash anyone they see as a threat. Most of the people here love and are moved by this band (as can be expected of any website of this nature), so it gets to us after a while reading some of the attacks on the band elsewhere. It's only natural that some of us would do whatever we could to keep this board one of the few places where the majority opinion of the band is not as a bunch of poncy sheep molesters...

 

Lastly, let me say that though I don't believe Coldplay intentionally plagaiarized, the similarity in the chord progression of the two songs makes me concede that Joe perhaps does deserve a wedge of the royalties, the article Iread made it seem like he was seeking massive punative damages, which if true, does make the whole thing a bit of a cash grab and Satriani a bit of a tool.

 

Nicely put, though I think that if Coldplay didn't plagirize then there's no reason Satriani deserves anything. Even if the melodies are similar, Coldplay made it famous with their song, they deserve the money.