.."a dagger went right through my heart."

pfffffffft. lame. this guy is super full of himself.

WHY would Coldplay rip off a song by a guy who TOOOOOONS of people listen to? do you really think they sat down and said "this guy has a huge following and is very well respected, lets rip off one of his songs. NO one will EVER know!" And the last time they actually used another song, they gave TONS of credit to Kraftwerk.

If he heard it RIGHT when it came out, why didn't he jump out of his seat RIGHT then and get on the phone with his lawyer?

 

this is VERY true

again? now on a rush of blood to the head!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWElIeC68Ak

 

 

 

 

:D I love how the dog comes in right at the chorus!

my first post:rolleyes:

 

first of all ...yes i am a coldplay fan...

 

are there similarities.....???? yes there are...

but would chris be dull enough or would he need to copy joe satriani , a gifted and well known musician??? i doubt it!

 

in the past and recently the band have given credits to other bands , and i can not understand why they would be any different in this case!

 

however ! even if there is a sample of "if i could fly " in vlv, then coldplay are geniouse to take a few notes and turn itr into a masterpiece that has many different melodies , instruments, etc... and anyone with half a brain should see this! chris writes songs for other bands, as well as his own! why would he ned to nick other peoples work!

:D I love how the dog comes in right at the chorus!

 

 

lol that dog has a case... im gutted ... ilove that song:\

WHY would Coldplay rip off a song by a guy who TOOOOOONS of people listen to? do you really think they sat down and said "this guy has a huge following and is very well respected, lets rip off one of his songs. NO one will EVER know!" And the last time they actually used another song, they gave TONS of credit to Kraftwerk.

Very true. Just one reason why it's doesn't make sense Coldplay would deliberately use someone else's work and mark it as their own.

Maybe he knows he cant win the case but hes just doing it to try to damage Coldplay' image......

Just have a question about the 2 songs.Is Satriani saying that the only similiarity is the part that would be"I used to rule the world"or is he saying the rest of the song is the same.

Okay so I was just watching the Q&A for the Yahoo live set concert they did, and Chris mentions they're being sued by tons of people for VLV, and he kind of obviously hints about Joe Santriani being one of them...so they have known about this for a while then??

Okay so I was just watching the Q&A for the Yahoo live set concert they did, and Chris mentions they're being sued by tons of people for VLV, and he kind of obviously hints about Joe Santriani being one of them...so they have known about this for a while then??

 

Well i think he was jokin about a ton of people sueing..and it seems like they already knew he was sueing but we could be wrong cause maybe he was just joking about it but i think they already knew he was gonna sue.

:D I love how the dog comes in right at the chorus!

is n't it quite tuned? :o :lol:

Did Coldplay Plagiarize Guitarist Joe Satriani?

 

If you were near a radio or in a bar this past summer, you might have found it impossible to avoid the string-saturated "Viva La Vida" by Coldplay.

 

Guitarist Joe Satriani heard the song, too, and it made him think about a song he wrote and performed in 2004: an instrumental called "If I Could Fly." When Satriani tried to contact Coldplay and didn't hear back after several months, he filed a copyright-infringement lawsuit against the band last week.

 

To add fuel to Satriani's fire, Coldplay's CD Viva La Vida is a No. 1-selling album in 36 countries and a Grammy Award nominee, while Satriani's song never made it big.

 

This certainly isn't the first time two songs have sounded the same. The Chiffons waged a lengthy legal battle against The Beatles' George Harrison over the similarities between "My Sweet Lord" and The Chiffons' "He's So Fine." Harrison eventually admitted to "subconsciously copying" the song and paid the band royalties.

 

Timothy English, author of Sounds Like Teen Spirit, says the two songs are similar, but work in different genres — Satriani's a rock instrumental and Coldplay's a more mainstream pop song. He says this occurrence isn't all that rare.

 

"It happens quite often for ... a lot of different reasons," English says. "One, there is just a large quantity of recorded music. And rock music as a genre is now well over 50 years old. The amount of originality you can have is starting to get limited."

 

But these occurrences aren't without benefits. Over this past weekend, the YouTube video that compares the two songs jumped to 1 million visitors.

 

"The plagiarism allegation has gone platinum," host Robert Siegel says.

 

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97973449

 

Interesting to hear from NPR, you can listen to the report at the link.

LOL this whole issue just makes me want to blast VLV on repeat in my iTunes :P

 

My playcount has tripled since this lawsuit was filed ;)

It's kind of a sad situation to me. Coldplay deserves better, but just because I think so doesn't mean it will happen. It just sucks I guess, because Coldplay is on such a high right now.

 

Let's not forget though that Brian Eno produced this album and even thought up the lyric "I don't want a cycle of recycled revenge" on "Death and All His Friends." He knows the song from how they sound down to their technicalities -- it's his job. Satriani and Eno are alike. They both are gifted and well-respected musicians. But neither of them are extremely popular outside of their own fan base. Not only is Coldplay smart enough, but so is Eno. He's a producer for crying out loud! Would he have let this get by? I seriously, seriously doubt it.

It's kind of a sad situation to me. Coldplay deserves better, but just because I think so doesn't mean it will happen. It just sucks I guess, because Coldplay is on such a high right now.

 

Let's not forget though that Brian Eno produced this album and even thought up the lyric "I don't want a cycle of recycled revenge" on "Death and All His Friends." He knows the song from how they sound down to their technicalities -- it's his job. Satriani and Eno are alike. They both are gifted and well-respected musicians. But neither of them are extremely popular outside of their own fan base. Not only is Coldplay smart enough, but so is Eno. He's a producer for crying out loud! Would he have let this get by? I seriously, seriously doubt it.

 

 

Wow that lyric always rubbed me the wrong way, good to know it wasn't actually Chris's.

Hehe, actually I really love it. :)

Let's not forget though that Brian Eno produced this album and even thought up the lyric "I don't want a cycle of recycled revenge" on "Death and All His Friends." He knows the song from how they sound down to their technicalities -- it's his job. Satriani and Eno are alike. They both are gifted and well-respected musicians. But neither of them are extremely popular outside of their own fan base. Not only is Coldplay smart enough, but so is Eno. He's a producer for crying out loud! Would he have let this get by? I seriously, seriously doubt it.

 

1. hmmm, I think its a little like comparing apples and oranges. Joe Satriani is famous for the work he does for Joe Satriani; Brian Eno is primarily famous for the work he does for several bands.

 

2. I don't think Brian Eno can catalogue ALL of his influences any better than Coldplay. But it does bring up an interesting point. I remember a few years back the Red Hot Chili Pepper's were taking some heat because "Dani California" displayed some similarities to Tom Petty's "Mary Jane's Last Dance." The funny thing is that Rick Rubin produced both songs. Do I think that a producer is able to clearly identify every source of inspiration - No (there are just so damn many). Do I think that a producer is able to distinguish the similarities between one project he worked on, Dani California, and another project he worked on, Mary Jane's Last Dance - Yes. BUT THE CHILI PEPPERS STILL TOOK CRITICISM. It just shows me that a lot of these plagiarism arguments are spurious. Of course Rick Rubin would stop the Chili Peppers if he thought they were plagiarizing. No one would know better than a man who worked on BOTH projects. And yet...."no, no, no....the Chili Peppers plagiarized" argument was everywhere.

Since we are all a product of what society, that is what those individual or collective influences have given us, then it seems fair to say that ideas/feelings/thoughts can and do resonate, or can be created almost simultaneously within the body and mind of one without any real intent to copy the works of another. Or, it's done all the time anyhow, and to say it's original is to search for the first DNA molecule, and the first cell. Totally ridiculous unless it's almost verbatim.

If this same litmus test were put to, let's say, the Beatles, then they would have been sued countless times by earlier R&B's artists they really did copy; or the previous artists that those artists copied, and on down the line to old Aunt Sally's tune sung in the hills of Carolina in 1860. But really, it's all like sparrows complaining that their song is being used by another. Like the fleas arguing who owns the dog. In 10,000 years, only art historians will have an inkling of what this is all about, or what this indicated about human society at the time.. Like us discussing whether Mozart had a tiff with Marie Antoinette over a particular sonnet that made some social statement about her relationship with the archduke of Glastonbury..:P

 

Umm...Has Coldplay commented on this issue yet??

I think Satriani is just using this case for his publicity and trying to damage Coldplay's image.

Coldplay Joked About Song Theft Before Lawsuit

 

From:http://www.antimusic.com

 

It may be a joke to Coldplay but Satch might have the last laugh. For those that missed the news Joe Satriani taking Coldplay to court for plagiarism.

 

Today we were sent a link to actual footage of Chris Martin joking about "Moe Batriani" and insisting Coldplay didn't steal the song. What's interesting is that Martin made the quip long before Satch sued Coldplay. The clip is from the Nissan Live Sets on Yahoo! Music concert that Coldplay taped in October.

 

Watch it here You'll find Martin's quote at about the 3:30 mark.

It may be a joke to Coldplay but Satch might have the last laugh. For those that missed the news Joe Satriani taking Coldplay to court for plagiarism.

 

Today we were sent a link to actual footage of Chris Martin joking about "Moe Batriani" and insisting Coldplay didn't steal the song. What's interesting is that Martin made the quip long before Satch sued Coldplay. The clip is from the Nissan Live Sets on Yahoo! Music concert that Coldplay taped in October.

 

Watch it here You'll find Martin's quote at about the 3:30 mark

 

Absolutely, this is the real deal. I have seen this clip before. And there is enough similarity that Satriani at least has a case. Now whether he will win, or it was good form to bring to it forward, are completely different debates. I think it is scary stuff.

I'm sure he was just referring to the fact that Joe had obviously been talking to them about it. Joe said he tried to settle it behind closed doors, so this is what Chris is talking about. Joe accused them of stealing the song long before he filed the lawsuit. It takes time to put these cases together. They obviously knew Joe's intentions, or else they wouldn't have mentioned him.

 

This is what I don't understand. Satriani said he was "hurt" by it and it wasn't about the money

It was about wanting recognition for his piece of art. If this were true, wouldn't he want this to go public? So people KNOW it is his, and not Coldplay's? He wouldn't be asking them for money behind closed doors first. I think he is full of crap here, and is trying to play the victim role as much as possible to hide the fact that he is trying to get all this money. If what he said was genuine, this is not how it should have played out...

 

This whole issue frustrates me.

From:http://www.antimusic.com

 

It may be a joke to Coldplay but Satch might have the last laugh. For those that missed the news Joe Satriani taking Coldplay to court for plagiarism.

 

Today we were sent a link to actual footage of Chris Martin joking about "Moe Batriani" and insisting Coldplay didn't steal the song. What's interesting is that Martin made the quip long before Satch sued Coldplay. The clip is from the Nissan Live Sets on Yahoo! Music concert that Coldplay taped in October.

 

Watch it here You'll find Martin's quote at about the 3:30 mark.

 

Oh dear...

 

He shouldn't have said anything, but that being said making jokes isn't the action of a guilty man. If he had genuinely stolen that piece of music he'd have kept his mouth shut, not brought the issue up in front of an audience.

 

I agree with the post above, this issue frustrates me. Joe can do no wrong in the eyes of most of the people who have reported/commented on the matter, when he's actually been very callous about the whole thing.

From:http://www.antimusic.com

 

It may be a joke to Coldplay but Satch might have the last laugh. For those that missed the news Joe Satriani taking Coldplay to court for plagiarism.

 

Today we were sent a link to actual footage of Chris Martin joking about "Moe Batriani" and insisting Coldplay didn't steal the song. What's interesting is that Martin made the quip long before Satch sued Coldplay. The clip is from the Nissan Live Sets on Yahoo! Music concert that Coldplay taped in October.

 

Watch it here You'll find Martin's quote at about the 3:30 mark.

 

Im not worried about the quote cause im sure they knew about it cause Joe probably did talk to them behind closed doors and thats when Coldplay said no and then Joe probably said ''Im gonna take u to coourt'' so thats why Chris said it.......I also think that they have all the papers dated and they know what date Joe approached them about it so ya.....And also even Joe said that he tried not to go to court so that means he did approach them early so it all adds up.

I'm sure he was just referring to the fact that Joe had obviously been talking to them about it. Joe said he tried to settle it behind closed doors, so this is what Chris is talking about. Joe accused them of stealing the song long before he filed the lawsuit. It takes time to put these cases together. They obviously knew Joe's intentions, or else they wouldn't have mentioned him.

 

If I had to guess, I would say that this part is spot on. But what I don't understand is that, if they knew this was coming, why didn't Coldplay, via their legal team, have a prepared statement ready. I get it, it is probably not good to push Chris in front of a live microphone for a series of questions (although, personally, I would love to hear what he has to say). But I think the longer this thing plays out without some type of formal response, the worse it gets for Coldplay. This is already starting to play itself out in the court of public opinion. Sometimes it is not good to stay quiet.