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I just read a review of the strokes at the New Orleans festival today..Says they didnt seem into it and cut it short by 30 min..

 

Everytime I read something like this I get sad.Since I only really discovered them the last few months,I feel like I missed out on their best years..

 

http://www.nola.com/jazzfest/index.ssf/2011/05/the_strokes_played_an_abbrevia.html

 

 

how do i get the whole article to show up??

 

I will say that I think their best years were their early years, no question, but I don't think they can (or really necessarily should) go back to how they performed when they were very young. At the same time, though, I think they get a bad reputation for their live performances sometimes--just because they don't freak out and leap around the stage like they used to doesn't mean that they're bad live at all, I think it just means they've gotten older. They're incredibly proficient live musicians and put on a great show, but if you're looking for people that look like they're going to have a heart attack from so much dancing and stage antics, then The Strokes aren't your band anymore. But just because they're not all over the stage doesn't mean they're boring, either. Nick Valensi could use a lesson or two in "looking like he wants to be there," but the others all have a great time, you can see it in their faces and the way they act, and Nick has never really been an animated performer (except the Arlene's Grocery gig from 2000, but I'm pretty sure they were all on some crazy drugs during this show). [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoTaxh_rt0Y]YouTube - The Strokes - Arlene Grocery (00-04-29)[/ame] Julian's priority is now the sound, so he spends his time trying to make sure he's doing his part than rabble-rousing the crowd or drunkenly romping around like he used to.

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I was blown away by that. I feel biased because Julian is one of the musical loves of my life, but besides that, he really nailed the whole point of doing a cover to me: to stay true to the original while spicing it up with the covering artist's own style. None of the others that have been released yet hit the nail on the head like that, in my opinion, even the ones of Buddy Holly songs I happen to like more than "Rave On" ("That'll Be The Day" is my ultimate favorite, and I'm just not feeling Modest Mouse's cover :sad:)

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I was just on the Strokes news website and people are really upset because the Strokes are going to be on the Ellen show next week.

 

So everyone is complaining that they are sellouts,why cant they be like they were 10 years ago,and that they will probably be breaking up soon.And that they are only doing the festivals for the money,why cant they do a real tour. If they did a regular tour,everyone would be complaining about the cost of tickets

 

this is what someone wrote..What do you all think??

 

As has been said before – i’m all for the band making money – it’s just that they’ve not only compromised the music in doing that but are also no longer offering what they led us to expect from them which is good quality music and an interesting way of presenting it. They’re by no means an avant-garde band that are going to revolutionise music or the very way we listen to music but they still had something exciting to offer. They no longer seem to want to push their sound or perfect it and what’s most upsetting to me is that they seem comfortable in cashing in on a poor product – in other words I resent a band, who I know are capable of so much more, ripping people off with little or no effort and yet being paid ridiculous sums… it’s just a little depressing that they could manipulate their fans into thinking this is all they have to offer. They’re just deliberately refusing to realise their potential and are being rewarded for it. I initially thought they were stepping back from touring the album and really putting much effort into selling it because they were unhappy with the product and didn’t want to push it but they repeatedly seem to be saying that they’re actually just lazy and happy to ride on the commercialism of their brand and pose as something more significant than that.

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I was just on the Strokes news website and people are really upset because the Strokes are going to be on the Ellen show next week.

 

So everyone is complaining that they are sellouts,why cant they be like they were 10 years ago,and that they will probably be breaking up soon.And that they are only doing the festivals for the money,why cant they do a real tour. If they did a regular tour,everyone would be complaining about the cost of tickets

 

this is what someone wrote..What do you all think??

 

As has been said before – i’m all for the band making money – it’s just that they’ve not only compromised the music in doing that but are also no longer offering what they led us to expect from them which is good quality music and an interesting way of presenting it. They’re by no means an avant-garde band that are going to revolutionise music or the very way we listen to music but they still had something exciting to offer. They no longer seem to want to push their sound or perfect it and what’s most upsetting to me is that they seem comfortable in cashing in on a poor product – in other words I resent a band, who I know are capable of so much more, ripping people off with little or no effort and yet being paid ridiculous sums… it’s just a little depressing that they could manipulate their fans into thinking this is all they have to offer. They’re just deliberately refusing to realise their potential and are being rewarded for it. I initially thought they were stepping back from touring the album and really putting much effort into selling it because they were unhappy with the product and didn’t want to push it but they repeatedly seem to be saying that they’re actually just lazy and happy to ride on the commercialism of their brand and pose as something more significant than that.

I'll just point out everything that is wrong with this.....

1.) How have they compromised their music?

2.) How did they "lead us to expect" any specific thing?

3.) "An interesting way of presenting it"? What, are they supposed to dress up in costumes and put on a play for us?

4.) LOL they've "pushed their sound" a lot more in Angles than in any of the other albums. Revolutionary it is not, and never will be, but last time I checked I didn't hear harmonies or synths in the previous three albums.

5.) In what way have they expressed laziness?

6.) And brand? Pose? What are you even talking about? They're playing festivals and tv shows because it isn't as stressful as a regular tour but still offers the chance for people to see ho they perform live.

 

I like having discussions about bands....but not when one person just says a bunch of ignorant and irrelevant statements that they pulled out of thin air.....

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Keddie,

 

I totally agree with your response about the Strokes article that I wrote about.. .I wonder what that person was expecting from them..sounds like she thinks they lied,cheated and G-d know what else..

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I write a lot, so this is under a spoiler to hide like 3 paragraphs of rant, haha :P

 

 

I agree that playing the Ellen show is incredibly random and a bit of a weird fit, but everyone just needs to cool their jets and be happy that we'll get to see them on TV another time. I don't care if they're on Fox News, I just enjoy being able to hear and watch them play (actually, I take that back, I'd really, really be pissed off if they were on Fox News for a whole host of reasons unrelated to "selling out").

 

This is the way I look at it: Julian has basically said, more than once, that he doesn't want to do a traditional tour, seemingly because he finds it creatively constricting and tiring. I think he's worried about burning out a bit after being on the road for long stretches of time. He said tours just make him want to lay down and watch TV, not get back to the studio and working on songs. Unless it's all a front and they're really all as miserable as the magazines want us to believe, they/Julian sound more oriented towards staying prolific and creative and working on new material than doing a long tour for a year or so and putting the rest on hold. Is this aggravating for fans and evidently other members of the band? Hell yes. I maintain they could probably come up with a nice compromise solution with the best of both worlds where they could still do a significant number of dates while still having time to work on LP5/spend time with their families/not burn themselves out, but whatever. Touring is THE MAIN source of income for bands these days. Sure, they're probably making enough to live on with the sales of Angles alone, but can you really blame them for wanting to make more than what's just "adequate"? They know they can make more than just what they get from royalties and record sales, and they know the way to do this is to tour. But if they're not GOING to tour traditionally for whatever reason, then what are their options to both appease fans and feed their families? Playing one-off festivals and doing TV performances that don't require weeks on end on the road and that allow them personal and creative flexibility now that they're adults, most of them with small children and more things to worry about than they had in 2001. And that's not even touching the issue of enjoying what they do--why are we suddenly under the assumption that they hate performing? I think it has much less to do with PLAYING live as it does with the actual day-to-day of being on tour. I've seen them twice in person this year and multiple times on livestream/TV/etc as I know lots of people have, and I'd say only maybe at the BBC Big Weekend did it look like they actually weren't into what they were doing, and I'm thinking it could have something to do with the fact that Julian arrived in the country literally hours beforehand from New York and was probably as jetlagged and as grouchy as hell.

 

And for the record, Angles is nowhere near my favorite thing they've ever done, but I don't necessarily think releasing an album that's less welcomed with open arms than some of their other albums by the critics OR the fanbase, or even the band in retrospect, is any sort of death knell. AND NEITHER IS PLAYING A STINKING TALK SHOW. They didn't fart into a microphone for ten songs, they came out with a more than viable album that thousands of people are loving because it contains originality and creativity. People seem to forget that music is subjective: Angles might not be as well-received as some of their other work in general, but that doesn't mean it was a flop, or that everyone feels "ripped off." The band has been represented as both loving the album and thinking they have something better in them, so we can't even trust what the media says they think of it. But this is the bottom line of it all for me: The Strokes have never stood for anything besides good music, no matter what the media heaped on their shoulders ten years ago, but besides the fact that I don't think they have any goals but to make good music, people have to realise that they also make their money from the music and make some choices accordingly.

 

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I think Angles might be more polarizing, at least in the critical world: critics seemed to either eat it up or hate it, citing it as either a return to form or a first death throe for the band, without a ton of middle ground. Fans seem to either love it or be kind of "eh" about it with comparison to earlier albums.

 

FIOE, I feel like most critics really panned, but most fans think it's extremely underrated. What this means in relation to anything, I have no idea, but there's my random observation for the day :lol:.

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The Strokes are playing at KROQ Weenie Roast this weekend, and while I wasn't keen on enough of the lineup to get a ticket, there will be a live webcast of the entire show on Saturday. It starts at 2pm PST and The Strokes begin at 7:30pm PST. They should get 40 minutes to play (KROQ events feature rotating stages so there's no downtime between acts).

 

http://kroq.radio.com/2011/05/31/kroq-weenie-roast-2011-webcast-set-times-rules-and-more/

 

The webcast should appear at that link on Saturday.

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I tried since 2PM PST, but that stream never worked properly on my computer in any browser for some reason, so I ended up streaming the whole thing on my phone, which I found endlessly hilarious :lol:.

 

Julian's voice was terrible, though--I think he has a cold. Too bad they have another gig tomorrow night...:uhoh:

 

Also, side note that I find hysterical: Nick's wife Amanda tweeted like 30 minutes before Nick needed to be onstage that the four of them in their family were stuck in LA traffic on the way to the gig. The band took the stage 10 minutes late as well. That time was probably built in, but Nick looked to be laughing when they finally got up there. I don't know, there's something hysterical to me about a band maybe getting onstage late because their lead guitarist was stuck in traffic on the way to the gig, driving a minivan full of his wife and young children :lol: :lol: :lol:

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