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The Official Club Football 2014-2015 thread

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Rafa isn't working out, he needs to go, can't they do a trade with City, we can have Mancini back and they can have Rafa, come on it will be great, if he starts making you lose he can bore you with stories of 2005:laugh3:.

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Mancini stays at City. !

Mancini stays at City. !

 

Rafa did say he would like to go to City apparantly, it would be a fair swap, after yesterday no Inter supporter wants him to stay.

Rafa isn't working out, he needs to go

NOOOOO!! For Christ's sake, Rafa MUST STAY!!

NOOOOO!! For Christ's sake, Rafa MUST STAY!!

 

I doubt Rafa will make it past January,most Inter fans were giving him a chance but losing to Milan yesterday was the final straw, he must go and the sooner the better, if Rafa gets his way we will be in Serie B next year!.

I doubt Rafa will make it past January,most Inter fans were giving him a chance but losing to Milan yesterday was the final straw

If he makes past December 18th, I'm happy enough.

 

if Rafa gets his way we will be in Serie B next year!.

Don't worry about that. Ever heard the brazilian say "big teams don't get relegated"? That's what happens with both Internacional and Internazionale.

If he makes past December 18th, I'm happy enough.

 

 

Don't worry about that. Ever heard the brazilian say "big teams don't get relegated"? That's what happens with both Internacional and Internazionale.

 

I doubt we will get relagated but if Rafa stays I can see us finishing mid table if things carry on how they are, I'm sure you would be alot more worried about next month if Mourinho was still in charge though:P.

I'm sure you would be alot more worried about next month if Mourinho was still in charge though:P.

Considering how bad we've been playing, with Mourinho in charge, I'd be kneeling and praying by now :rolleyes:

Well with our performance recently I would be feeling much more optimistic if I was you.

Well with our performance recently I would be feeling much more optimistic if I was you.

That's 'cause you haven't watched our latest matches.

Oh stop flirting, both your teams suck.

Don't worry about that. Ever heard the brazilian say "big teams don't get relegated"? That's what happens with both Internacional and Internazionale.

 

ever heard of Leeds United? or Newcastle United? or Juventus?

Oh stop flirting, both your teams suck.

 

I wanted to come back with a witty comment about Newcastle, but it didn't work out, I quite like them actually:P.

 

Come on City, fire Mancini.

Haha I don't actually think Inter suck, and I know nothing about that other Inter, was just joking because of how both of you seemed to be arguing that the team you support is really shit, kinda funny.

I suppose I have to laugh really, I don't get over emotional about sports results like some fanatical die hard supporters of thier team, but after the Derby last week I do feel a bit deflated about Inters prospects this season, and I am joining the increasing number of supporters who want Rafa out, so pretty much, yeah we suck at the moment:laugh3:.

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Glazers set to repay Manchester United loans

 

Manchester United's American owners plan to reduce the financial pressure on the club by paying off high-interest loans, estimated to be worth £220m.

 

The loans were taken out with three US hedge funds to help finance the Glazer family's £790m takeover in 2005.

 

The BBC understands that Joel Glazer, the club's joint chairman, has written to the lenders to inform them the loans will be paid in full on 22 November.

 

The football club's total debts are estimated at more than £720m.

 

It is not yet clear how the Glazer family were able to raise the money to pay off the PIK (payment in kind) loans but significantly it is not with funds from the club.

 

The Glazers are most likely to have borrowed money from other financial institutions at more affordable rates to refinance the PIKs. A spokesman for the Glazer family declined to comment.

 

The PIK loans were significantly reduced as part of a refinancing package in 2006 but since then have been accruing interest at extremely punitive rates.

 

Earlier this year, the rate rose to 16.25%, with supporters long since suspecting that money from the club would eventually be used to start paying them off, although the Glazers are liable for the debt.

 

As part of a £526m bond refinancing in January, the Glazers were given the freedom to take up to £70m from the club's revenues to pay down the PIKs. But it seems they have not taken this option. By notifying the lenders they intend to pay the loans off in full next Monday, the Glazers will reduce the financial pressure on the club.

 

The club's parent company, Red Football Limited, on Tuesday published financial results for the three months to 30 September that reveal turnover increased from £57.7m to £63.3m in comparison to the same three months in 2009.

 

The main reason for that is a rise in commercial revenue to £24.2m, up over 25%. It was also revealed that United's gross debt had fallen from £514.7m to £509.4m.

 

Last month, United announced a £79.6m pre tax loss for the last financial year, mainly due to one off interest and debt charges, but despite that, the club generated revenues of £278m and have more than £100m of cash reserves.

 

United had no debts before the Glazers, who also own American Football side the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, took control in 2005.

 

Their ownership of United has provoked much criticism and resulted in the setting up of breakaway fans' club, FC United of Manchester, as well as the Green and Gold protest movement.

 

Many fans are continuing to boycott the team's traditional red shirts and scarves, choosing to wear green and gold, the original colours of Newton Heath, the amateur side which was founded in 1878 and went on to become Manchester United.

 

A mass protest was held outside Old Trafford before the final game of the 2009/2010 campaign and further demonstrations have taken place this season.

 

United have won three consecutive Premier League titles (2007-09), one Champions League trophy (2008), one Club World Cup (2008), three Football League Cups (2006, 09 and 10) and three FA Community Shield trophies (2007, 08 and 10) in the Glazer era.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9192771.stm

It's hard for me to say this but Rafa's been heading for this ever since he thought he could appoint yes men rather than men who would challenge Rafa's decisions. Pako Ayesteran ex Assistant manager with rafa at Valencia and Liverpool? Alex Miller ex first team coach at Liverpool? They weren't yes men but once they were shoved out Liverpool started going downhill. Rafa was lucky that he got 2nd place in the league a couple of years back but the real mess became evident last year.

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Harder to miss than to score. :laugh3:

What a tool, it was too easy to tap it in with his right foot so he tried to do something flashy.

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Sir Alex Ferguson addressing his audience in Doha: 'If I get off that treadmill where do you think I’d go – only one way, down.'

 

Sir Alex Ferguson: I'm in no mood for retiring at Manchester United

 

Sir Alex Ferguson has quashed speculation that he might be considering calling time on his managerial career next summer by declaring that retirement is "for young people".

 

Making it clear that he ends to stick around at Old Trafford for the foreseeable future, Manchester United's manager said: "I'm in no mood for it; as long as my health is good I intend to carry on.

 

"If my health deteriorated it would be different but retirement is for young people – they can do something else. If I get off that treadmill where do you think I'd go – only one way, down."

 

When it was put to him that three years ago he tentatively mentioned 2011 as a potential date for stepping down, Ferguson replied: "I've changed my mind – again."

 

Addressing a sports congress in Doha, where he has been lending his enthusiastic support to Qatar's bid to stage the 2022 World Cup, Ferguson had warm words for the Glazer family, United's controversial owners.

 

"We have a great relationship, they never bother me, they never phone," he said, beaming. "They never interfere. What more can you ask for? I'm in a privileged position. I've heard of English owners texting managers during training sessions."

 

Not that the United manager's horizon is entirely irritant-free. Indeed Ferguson made it clear that he regards Paul Stretford, Wayne Rooney's agent, as a particular nuisance.

 

"Some young people today take bad advice," he said, referring to Rooney's expression of a desire to leave Old Trafford, before the England forward's well- documented U-turn which has furnished him with a handsome new contract.

 

"He's got an agent who is not the most popular man in the world, certainly not at our club. But there's nothing wrong with making a mistake as long as you recognise it. He [Rooney] has apologised and signed a new contract. I think what we want is Wayne back to his best. When that happens I think everyone will be OK."

 

Asked if his prized possession had been unsettled by illicit contact with Manchester City, Ferguson merely said: "You're never going to find out."

 

Quizzed on the vexed subject of his "noisy" Mancunian neighbours, Ferguson initially appeared conciliatory before directing a sharp jab at Manchester City's seemingly soft underbelly.

 

"You CAN buy success if the structure is right," he said. "They've bought some good players, no question, but building spirit is not easy when a collection of different individuals come into the dressing room. It's a big challenge, it's not easy."

 

Few managers are more expert at taking the locker-room temperature than Ferguson. In what could be construed as a tacit warning to Rooney, he said. "My concern will always be control. The minute a player threatens my control in the dressing room I have to take it seriously. If he's affecting results or morale or spirit he has to go. My strength has to be obvious for all to see."

 

United's manager proved entertaining on the subject of that beast otherwise know as the modern player. Describing the species as "cocooned", Ferguson then lamented the present day "look at me" culture. "Young people today have an image of themselves and they need to be seen, so they have these tattoos and earrings," he explained.

 

As the call to prayer drifted through the desert air from nearby minarets, the Scot temporarily forgot he was in the Gulf. "You all play for your pub teams on a Sunday," he told a puzzled audience, many of whom celebrate their weekend on a Friday and, as Muslims, do not drink.

 

It was a rare slip on a day when Ferguson also endorsed the candidature of Sunderland's Steve Bruce as a future England manager, admitted that, as a much younger man, he would have relished the challenge of coaching Barcelona and sang the praises of José Mourinho.

 

When he does eventually accept the Glazer family's equivalent of a farewell carriage clock before bowing out, it would be no surprise if Real Madrid's "Special One" proves his preferred choice of successor.

 

In the interim Ferguson has made it clear that he rather than the next United manager will build the next Old Trafford side. He envisages it comprising a mixture of youthful promise and established talent and appeared fully confident the Glazers would stump up the necessary cash.

 

"It's important to sign young players but the time will come when we have to deviate from that," he said. "Several players from the squad are going to be going soon. Next year or the year after I'm going to have to sign some experienced players."

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/17/alex-ferguson-manchester-united-retiring

Fergie will never "retire" he will have a heart-attack during a stressful game and pass away :(

Crapello is currently playing Milner as a central winger. I've seen it all now!

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