xandy33755 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Not sure if anyone has said this but it's most likely long because they're not gonna be around after their tour circuits for a while, I'm assuming. they're probably going to take a break. They've been talking about it for a while now. It was supposedly after X&Y, then VIVA. Who knows though, can't hold back creativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princesanji Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 1. ALBUMS MUST BE NO LONGER THAN 42 MINUTES, OR 9 TRACKS. 2. PRODUCTION MUST BE AMAZING, RICH, BUT WITH SPACE, NOT OVERLAYERED. LESS TRACKS, MORE QUALITY. GROOVE AND SWING Drums/rhythm are the most crucial thing to concentrate on; diff. between bittersweet and science of silence 3. COMPUTERS ARE INSTRUMENTS, NOT RECORDING AIDS. 4. IMAGERY MUST BE CLASSIC. COLOURFUL AND DIFFERENT. COME BACK IN GLORIOUS TECHNICOLOUR. 5. MAKE SURE VIDEOS AND PICTURES ARE GREAT BEFORE [...] RELEASE DATE. And highly original 6. ALWAYS KEEP MYSTERY. Not many interviews 7. GROOVE AND SWING. RHYTHMS AND SOUNDS MUST AL[WAYS...] ORIGINAL AS POSSIBLE. Once jon has melody, twist it and wei[...] 8. Promo/review copies to be on VINYL. Stops copying problem and soun[ds...] better. and so on and so on ^^ number 8 is quite smart, 3 worries me a bit and we'll have to wait whether they stick to rule number 1 or not^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2GreenEyes Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 In Coldplay, as far as I know, nothing gets through if one of the 4 (and maybe Phil?) isn't happy with it. So it's not Eno's rule nor Chris' it's something the whole band agreed on that it was a good idea and Eno might've suggested it but they are all their own people and very capable of knowing what they want so Eno's influence is never something they don't agree on. And as far as those rules go I think they are methods to make them creative, as limiting your options often sparks more creativity than giving you too much freedom, and to make sure the album isn't to long, but they won't stick to it like they're God's rules, so if they feel strongly that the album is better if it's 5 minutes longer, then that will happen. All they try to do is make the best album ever for them, and chances are that that means the album will be under 50 minutes. I know they try really hard so I'm not really worried about the next album, I'm quite sure I'll like it. And I also like ETIAW, and I don't think they thought oh it's just a summer festival thing so lets make crap lyrics. I think they actually really like the song and are proud of it. And so do other people. Coldplay just doesn't sound like the band that would release something they don't LOVE. I mean if you see all the songs they make that they don't release and that are great, it's highly unlikely that they'd do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fix42YellowClocks Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I hope that was just CM's rules and nobody cares about :-p In the end it was just a LeftRightLeftRightLeft rule I hope.. I wouldnt mind them to put a hundred tracks on a record and I wouldnt mind if it is more than an hour long or so. lol yes!! Especially the part at the end. I don't see why it's bad to have a lot of songs on an album. :| It's probably just because I never get enough of them and some people would disagree, or that the more there are the less the quality peeps think. Which is all good. A new album is what it is regardless if it's long or short I do suppose. I'd really love a long one though! :) I mean like, idk. If they had included Rainy Day, Prospect's March/Poppyfields, and Glass of Water, the last album just would've been even better! And it would've bumped it up from like 45 minutes to 60. Yeah. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldplayer1317 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 1. ALBUMS MUST BE NO LONGER THAN 42 MINUTES, OR 9 TRACKS. 2. PRODUCTION MUST BE AMAZING, RICH, BUT WITH SPACE, NOT OVERLAYERED. LESS TRACKS, MORE QUALITY. GROOVE AND SWING Drums/rhythm are the most crucial thing to concentrate on; diff. between bittersweet and science of silence 3. COMPUTERS ARE INSTRUMENTS, NOT RECORDING AIDS. 4. IMAGERY MUST BE CLASSIC. COLOURFUL AND DIFFERENT. COME BACK IN GLORIOUS TECHNICOLOUR. 5. MAKE SURE VIDEOS AND PICTURES ARE GREAT BEFORE [...] RELEASE DATE. And highly original 6. ALWAYS KEEP MYSTERY. Not many interviews 7. GROOVE AND SWING. RHYTHMS AND SOUNDS MUST AL[WAYS...] ORIGINAL AS POSSIBLE. Once jon has melody, twist it and wei[...] 8. Promo/review copies to be on VINYL. Stops copying problem and soun[ds...] better. and so on and so on ^^ number 8 is quite smart, 3 worries me a bit and we'll have to wait whether they stick to rule number 1 or not^^ Then this shows us that coldplay usually break their own rules, because of the fact all of coldplay LPs are over 9 songs, and all of the albums are over 42 minutes but parachutes, which is 41, and X&Y was 62 minutes long with 13 songs, so i think that rule can be broken, specially with brian eno, viva la vida special edition was also quite long.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admnistramation Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 They're not very mysterious, Coldplay seems like an open book once the album is out. They're no Radiohead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayurshikotra Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Then this shows us that coldplay usually break their own rules, because of the fact all of coldplay LPs are over 9 songs, and all of the albums are over 42 minutes but parachutes, which is 41, and X&Y was 62 minutes long with 13 songs, so i think that rule can be broken, specially with brian eno, viva la vida special edition was also quite long.... this was written during VLV recordings, which is why first three albums may not be to these rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldplayer1317 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 this was written during VLV recordings, which is why first three albums may not be to these rules still, viva la vida dose not follow the rules anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 ^ It does if you exclude the hidden tracks. Plus, it isn't like it was an extra song that pushed Viva over the 42 minute mark--rather, it was the extra number of odd seconds in each song (they aren't perfectly rounded numbers like 4:00 or 3:30) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldplayer1317 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 ^ It does if you exclude the hidden tracks. Plus, it isn't like it was an extra song that pushed Viva over the 42 minute mark--rather, it was the extra number of odd seconds in each song (they aren't perfectly rounded numbers like 4:00 or 3:30) -------> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viva_la_Vida_or_Death_and_All_His_Friends Original album = 45 minutes 10 tracks Special edition = 73 minutes 18 tracks Again, it does NOT follow the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackZ Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 No genius. The special edition includes Prospekt's March. That's a duo pack, not an album. Viva the album had 45 minutes because of extra tracks. Nobody gives a sheesh how long the special edition was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admnistramation Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Following a set rubric sounds pretty lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 -------> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viva_la_Vida_or_Death_and_All_His_Friends Original album = 45 minutes 10 tracks Special edition = 73 minutes 18 tracks Again, it does NOT follow the rules The 'special edition' would be Viva la Vida / Prospekt's March, so it isn't a traditional album (rather, a deluxe album) ;) As I said, the three hidden tracks are the main reason that Viva was pushed over the 42 minute mark. Altogether, The Escapist, RoL, and CSC average out to 7 minutes; without them, Viva would be 38 minutes, which coincides with the rules that the boys set up. I'm sure their rules aren't set in stone--they wouldn't cut an entire minute out of a song just because the album length times out at 43 minutes :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldplayer1317 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 No genius. The special edition includes Prospekt's March. That's a duo pack, not an album. Viva the album had 45 minutes because of extra tracks. Nobody gives a sheesh how long the special edition was. I don't like you :embarrassed: you probably don't like me neither but i don't really care at all, and im more cleaver than you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 No genius. The special edition includes Prospekt's March. That's a duo pack, not an album. Viva the album had 45 minutes because of extra tracks. Nobody gives a sheesh how long the special edition was. I don't like you :embarrassed: you probably don't like me neither but i don't really care at all, and im more cleaver than you Calm down, guys. No need to get worked up, this is just a friendly discussion :nice: :hug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldplayer1317 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 The 'special edition' would be Viva la Vida / Prospekt's March, so it isn't a traditional album (rather, a deluxe album) ;) As I said, the three hidden tracks are the main reason that Viva was pushed over the 42 minute mark. Altogether, The Escapist, RoL, and CSC average out to 7 minutes; without them, Viva would be 38 minutes, which coincides with the rules that the boys set up. I'm sure their rules aren't set in stone--they wouldn't cut an entire minute out of a song just because the album length times out at 43 minutes :) thanks for the feedback, didn't know, well , viva was a really complete album, so an 41 minute album would not be bad at all :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdplayingfromKansas Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 ^ No problem :) I don't mind short albums, either, as long as they have good songs that fit together well and are just all-around good tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getithom Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Following a set rubric sounds pretty lame. What? Not at all. My Dad is a musician, and he always has a set of guidelines he following when writing and recording. Having an organized set of "things to do" severely balances out your planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admnistramation Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 But how are they supposed to experiment with set boundaries? It seems so wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackZ Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I don't like you :embarrassed: you probably don't like me neither but i don't really care at all, and im more cleaver than you Spelled clever wrong. And if you're so clever, why did you suggest that the title of LP5 will be "..." You're not exactly the brightest of the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldplayer1317 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Spelled clever wrong. And if you're so clever, why did you suggest that the title of LP5 will be "..." You're not exactly the brightest of the bunch. As i've said before, im not a native english speaker, and at this point, we can all speculate, "kjasdlfksjdlfkjsldfkjsldkf" is as probably as "M xyrobrites" to be the title, why? because we don't know yet, so it can acutally be "..." , why not? give me a reason why not? , forget about it, im probably younger than you, but more intelligent PD - I don' know/care if i spelled any of the words wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackZ Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 As i've said before, im not a native english speaker, and at this point, we can all speculate, "kjasdlfksjdlfkjsldfkjsldkf" is as probably as "M xyrobrites" to be the title, why? because we don't know yet, so it can acutally be "..." , why not? give me a reason why not? , forget about it, im probably younger than you, but more intelligent PD - I don' know/care if i spelled any of the words wrong I know you don't, but my correction pissed you off. I'd say I'm clever like that, but unlike you I'm not an arrogant jerk about it. And why won't the album title be an ellipses? Because 1. That's stupid. Not only is it difficult to pronounce as Chris said, it's impossible. That's not a sound. And 2. Chris said the title is 2 words, starting with an M (that's probably the billionth time that sentence has been written on this forum) and we see MX all over the place. Just put 2 and 2 together, genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldplayer1317 Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I'm not an arrogant jerk Yes you are :whatever: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackZ Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Yes you are :whatever: Do you REALLY think you should be one to talk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I know you don't, but my correction pissed you off. I'd say I'm clever like that, but unlike you I'm not an arrogant jerk about it. And why won't the album title be an ellipses? Because 1. That's stupid. Not only is it difficult to pronounce as Chris said, it's impossible. That's not a sound. And 2. Chris said the title is 2 words, starting with an M (that's probably the billionth time that sentence has been written on this forum) and we see MX all over the place. Just put 2 and 2 together, genius. 1. Sigur Rós has an album called "()." That's not a sound, either. For simplicity's sake, fans call it "the bracket album." I'm not trying to argue with you at all; I just thought I'd make a point. 2. Yes, he did, and that's why Coldplayer1317's prediction is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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