The Duke Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Seperate out the tracks properly and Viva is at 13 tracks for 42 minutes. 14 tracks shouldn't be a problem. 50 minutes tops is my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartroc Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 It's not totally true that thing about slow, fast, slow, fast. Lyrics terrible? A message, swallowed in the sea, what if, fix you, the hardest part, maybe talk has great lyrics about feelings. White shadows, x&y, square one, speed of sound, low, have another meanings about life, space, etc. But well, that's subjective. I love every song of coldplay, i don't care about if is slow, fast, with good or bad lyrics (I don't feel it). And MX gonna be another pure genius album. Of course it's subjective. When I say something is terrible, I just mean I PERSONALLY think that it is objectively (and relatively) so. For the record, I think that every single song you mentioned with lyrics about "feelings" DO have lyrics that are objectively (and relatively) not good. By not good, I mean uncreative, stuffed-with-cliches, etc. I enjoy and relate to lyrics that are more abstact, more thought-provoking, and more unique than "My song is love," "What if you should decide that you don't want me there in your life," and "When you love someone but it goes to waste, what could be worse?" Cheesy is fun to an extent, but I don't think it should be hailed as genius. Musically, X&Y has some great songs (Low, Twisted Logic, White Shadows, Fix You), but the lyrics are (to me) too trite to be taken seriously. Some of the arrangements are a tad overblown as well. On a somewhat related - if contrary - note, I think Speed of Sound has some pretty good lyrics, arguably some of Mr. Martin's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiame Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I think a few of the songs will only be very short. I'm telling you people, these fourteen songs won't all be 3-4 minutes long. Not a chance. Considering how much Coldplay regret making X&Y a long album, I'd doubt they'd do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackZ Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Well...here's what I'd think about it. Jonny said that they fit everything they wanted into 42 and a half minutes, but he also said they were probably going to have only 10 songs on the album. So I'd say those original 10 songs are 42.5 minutes altogether. Somebody else said that it was all fitting into about 50 minutes with Chris saying he wanted 13 songs. So, with 14 songs, I'd expect there to be slightly more than 50 minutes in main tracks. However, if there are hidden tracks then it might be closer to an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I think a few of the songs will only be very short. I'm telling you people, these fourteen songs won't all be 3-4 minutes long. Not a chance. Considering how much Coldplay regret making X&Y a long album, I'd doubt they'd do it again. It would surprise me if we didn't see anything longer than Paradise's 4:38 length. X&Y averages 5+ minutes a song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinest Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 My favorite album from the "old gen" is A Rush of Blood to the Head. However I'm quite enjoying what I've seen of this new one, and I didn't quite mind the past few albums either. When it comes to X&Y I think for me wasn't the length, but more the quaility of the album. Looking at the track listing there isn't many songs from it which I go back and listen to over and over. However even with just the little bit from Mylo Xyloto I've been listing to the songs over and over and enjoying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anacaren08 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I :heart: X&Y and im not afraid to say it! :D Its my second favorite coldplay album, (AROBTTH favorite of all time) So yea, not really worried. Im trusting their judgement :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0ldplay420 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I wonder....How can more music (a.k.a. longer songs) from a great band be a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiame Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I wonder....How can more music (a.k.a. longer songs) from a great band be a bad thing? Because it tears the album apart, that's why. X&Y is a classic example. The reason it was canned by nearly every music critic on earth and is most people's least favourite album is because it's long, it's messy and it is all over the place. Lady GaGa is another person who writes very popular music but her albums are convoluted messes. An album has to flow, it has to be accessible and it has to hook you. Long albums can't do that. Also, when Chris Martin was asked what one thing would he do if he could travel back in time he said he would travel back in time before X&Y was released and cut it down. So Coldplay themselves are very much against long albums too. This is why these "fourteen" tracks will probably end up being around the same length as VLVADAAHF. There are 13 tracks on Viva, counting Chinese Sleep Chant, The Escapist and Reign of Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givelovesolong Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Besides having heard random songs from previous releases, "X&Y" was the album that I was first really exposed to and it completely drew me in. It has songs that I'll still always add to my playlists, and even if the boys would rethink it's length, I still think it stands up for it's worth. Regarding the length of MX, I'm not worried. As much as I would love for it to be a long one, I'd really rather see it be something of exceptional quality instead. Which I have no doubt it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Leo Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Will has given his blessing to 14 tracks...who are we to disagree ? hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Lady GaGa is another person who writes very popular music but her albums are convoluted messes. An album has to flow, it has to be accessible and it has to hook you. Long albums can't do that. Agreed. She's ridiculously talented but cannot put together an album for crap. :laugh3: X&Y wasn't really "panned." Some critics called it their masterpiece. I think it's just how they interpret the work. I for one thought it was really messy, but there are some amazing moments on the record. If only it were concise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmotor Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 i really dont care about the length,if it's a great album,then who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camille93 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Just my 2 cents: It's highly unlikely that the album's length will exceed 50 minutes (it will probably be a little less). This is because there will also be a Vinyl Edition, and the length of an LP side is restricted to 25 minutes (if you don't wan't any impacts on the sound-quality). So my guess is that it'll be something around 45 minutes long ;) Greets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harondor Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I also think that the album is around 40 or 45mn. I'm pretty sure that songs like UFO and MMIX are very short, sorts of opener and closer of the antagonist ETIAW/MM. But finally we've waited so long for this album, so just let's enjoy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seppel Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 i guess it will be between 45 and 52 minutes, containing some short instrumental interludes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel_94 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Yeah definitely between 40 and 50 minutes. Hopefully Wikipedia or Amazon will put up a length in the next few weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odvan Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 One of the most stupidest topic I've ever read there. Not because X&Y one of the best albums personally for me, but how more songs from your favourite band could be bad???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel_94 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 ^ Some people, not me, think the longer an album is it gets a bit... I dunno too long???? If you want to listen to it all in one go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odvan Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 ^ Some people, not me, think the longer an album is it gets a bit... I dunno too long???? If you want to listen to it all in one go! So 50 minutes is OK, but 51 minutes is too long? Amazing. Did you ever hear some small alternative band Pink Floyd and it's double CD The Wall? Or RHCP Stadium Arcadium? I've never get why people heard somewhere X&Y is too long and keep repeating this BS since 2005. I hate generalisations. Think different for christs sake, don't repeat BS. X&Y has it's flaws, but it has nothing to do with length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel_94 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 All right, calm down mate I did say that I didn't share that opinion and I was just answering your question!!!! And I don't remember anyone saying that 51 minutes is too long but 50 isn't. Your missing the point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givelovesolong Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 To me, it would be totally plausible for MX to have a couple more tracks and be a little longer if it is, as being theorised right now, supposed to have two halves -- or two different parts. Which means it's possible the boys didn't adhere to their withstanding rule of "no longer than 42 minutes (or 9 tracks)," or worry about any regrets they may have with regard to X&Y's length, because for this occasion it was necessary. And obviously, agreed upon. Either way, I'm completely happy with the fact it will have 14 tracks, whether it turns out to include a couple of instrumentals or not. As long as it's a good album, I'm not going to worry about anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Philosopher Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I bet it will be between 50 and 60 minutes long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princesanji Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 an average length of 3:30 per song *14 means 49 minutes.... just saying.... so there might be more short ones which bothers me a bit but well, i will wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadBC Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Well just because it's 14 songs, doesn't mean it will an hour long, per se. I do think it will be around 45-47 minutes though. Something like... Mylo Xyloto: 1:45 Hurts Like Heaven: 4:00 Paradise: 4:38 Charlie Brown: 4:30 Us Against the World: 3:10 M.M.I.X.: 1:00 Every Teardrop Is a Waterfall: 4:00 Major Minus: 3:30 U.F.O.: 3:30 Princess of China: 3:45 Up in Flames: 4:00 A Hopeful Transmission: 0:45 Don't Let It Break Your Heart: 3:45 Up with the Birds: 4:45 Which equals out to around 45 minutes long more or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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