mc_squared Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 NO not by a mile you're wrong I disagree. So do the album sales.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaths_friend Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 even though i havent enjoyed anything he has done in the last 5years i would still classify him as one of my "guilty pleasures". still enjoy putting on his greatest hits cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petit Prince Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 NO not by a mile you're wrong It's a matter of opinion obviously. I've always liked Robbie and I wanted the album to be good but I really didn't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 It's a matter of opinion obviously. I've always liked Robbie and I wanted to album to be good but I really didn't like it. I thought it was dreadful.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniea89 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 No, 'Rudebox' was his worst album by a mile. I liked 'She's Madonna' but that's the ONLY song on the album that I liked. Not even Lovelight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1ll1am7 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 it wasn't dreadful, if you want to listen to some fun songs and not worry about anything else you can enjoy it. big deal, it's not easy going pop that he usually does. but it's good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 it wasn't dreadful, if you want to listen to some fun songs and not worry about anything else you can enjoy it. If I want to do that I'll go listen to real plastic pop acts like Girls Aloud or Lady GaGa. big deal, it's not easy going pop that he usually does. That's why so many people disapproved.;) He went from making one of the best anthemic "pop songs" of all time ("Angels") to churning out a pile of bubblegum drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Really? I think the chorus is insanely catchy. And the choir is just...epic. I agree! I didnt like his new song 1st hearing it, but its grown on me, the production could of been a bit better, i like the ghostly background singing on it and the choir is dertainly epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniea89 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 That's why so many people disapproved. He went from making one of the best anthemic "pop songs" of all time ("Angels") to churning out a pile of bubblegum drivel. But he didn't really. You're forgetting all his work between the two albums. And it's not bubblegum pop. Apart from the covers, he's got songs talking about his perscription pill addiction, his childhood, the Take That stuff, his life in LA. The music isn't bubblegum either. It's dance pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniea89 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 And from what I've found, most people who weren't too keen on his previous work, love Rudebox. So he gained alot of respect in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petit Prince Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Not even Lovelight? Not really. :\ I agree! I didnt like his new song 1st hearing it, but its grown on me, the production could of been a bit better, i like the ghostly background singing on it and the choir is dertainly epic! Same here, I thought it was ok when I first heard it but I'm really starting to like it now. And from what I've found, most people who weren't too keen on his previous work, love Rudebox. So he gained alot of respect in that regard. Probably. I mean you gotta give him credit for trying something completely different. I still think it would have been better to stick with what he's good at, which is pop music and not rapping. Having said that, I loved his swing album so it's not like I'm not open for something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petit Prince Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Btw I found this when I was looking for an interview about the new album. Thought it was funny. [ame= ] [/ame] :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1ll1am7 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 If I want to do that I'll go listen to real plastic pop acts like Girls Aloud or Lady GaGa. I'd listen to Rudebox over Gaga any day of the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 But he didn't really. You're forgetting all his work between the two albums. And it's not bubblegum pop. Apart from the covers, he's got songs talking about his perscription pill addiction, his childhood, the Take That stuff, his life in LA. The music isn't bubblegum either. It's dance pop. Well for me that isn't his "style", and isn't the "style" that propelled him to superstardom after Take That. He should leave the "cheesy" pop stuff to the "cheese" brigade like Bratney, Lady GaGa and Mika. He left the "cheesy pop" behind when he quite Take That. It should have stayed that way.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 And from what I've found, most people who weren't too keen on his previous work, love Rudebox. So he gained alot of respect in that regard. Yes, but only from the "cheesy pop" brigade - and the lack of sales proved there were far fewer of them than the ones who liked his previous material.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Not really. :\ Same here, I thought it was ok when I first heard it but I'm really starting to like it now. Probably. I mean you gotta give him credit for trying something completely different. I still think it would have been better to stick with what he's good at, which is pop music and not rapping. Having said that, I loved his swing album so it's not like I'm not open for something new. Fair enough, but his style suits "swing" because he's the consummate entertainer, not a lightweight dance-popster. I wasn't into the swing album personally, but I have to admit it worked well, and this was reflected in the phenomenal sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 I'd listen to Rudebox over Gaga any day of the week I'd rather not listen to either of them, thanks.:dozey: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1ll1am7 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Rudebox over GaGa, that's all i have to say gaga = garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petit Prince Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 I wasn't into the swing album personally, but I have to admit it worked well, and this was reflected in the phenomenal sales. Sales figures don't reflect the quality of an album though. As I said before I didn't like Rudebox. I guess it was an experiment and he knew that he was taking a risk. Robbie mentioned several times that he dislikes some of his greatest hits and his film Nobody Someday showed that he was very unhappy with his life as a popstar. I know that you've got to be careful with this sort of information as he obviously has people who advice him what he should say in the media. I wouldn't be surprised if this was true though. Maybe he was trying to record an album which was more like him. The texts are certainly very personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1ll1am7 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Lyrics in that album are not bad...well, Dickhead is a song that makes me laugh because it's just so ridiculous, however songs like The 80's and 90's are really personal. I like Rudebox as an experiment, he might not go back to it, but it was fun, we can at least say that. nobody liked it and/or bought it because it was not his typical album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniea89 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 The full video of 'Bodies' is up on his site now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Robbie Williams set to take the world (except the US) by storm again? Robbie Williams, his new CD and how he's taking the world by storm all over again By Louise Gannon Last updated at 9:30 PM on 03rd October 2009 Comments (0) Add to My Stories Why would Robbie Williams give away his greatest hits to Mail on Sunday readers for free? Louise Gannon, who has known and worked with Robbie since he was 16, explains why he's ripping up the industry rule book yet again. Enlarge He's back: Robbie Williams' new album, Reality Killed The Video Star, is out next month. He is giving away his greatest hits to Mail on Sunday readers next week The first time I met Robbie Williams was in the back of a second-hand Transit van parked outside a school playground in Rotherham. It was 1990. Williams was 16 years old and, with his as yet unknown band Take That, was touring round junior schools, performing in lunch breaks in school halls to slightly mystified pre-teens. It was hardly rock 'n' roll. Enlarge Robbie shooting the video for his new single, Bodies, at the aeroplane graveyard in the Mojave Desert Gary Barlow, Mark Owen, Howard Donald and Jason Orange were a strange mix of shy, polite, awkward and over-eager boys waiting to be told what to do and say by their then manager, the mercurial Mancunian Nigel Martin-Smith. Gary was keen to talk about the music. Mark, the budding diplomat, did a lot of nodding and grinning. Howard and Jason struggled to think of anything to do or say, clearly unsure whether next week would bring a break-time performance in Hull or a trip down to the dole offi�ce. But it was Robbie, the baby of the band, who instinctively understood how to handle the situation. Buzzing on the thrill of speaking into a tape recorder (he wanted it played back to hear his voice on tape), he swaggered, pulled faces, made jokes, came out with the (what then seemed) completely ridiculous statement that 'we're going to be the biggest band in Britain' - and eff�ortlessly dominated the situation. When it came to photographs, the Stoke-on-Trent-born son of a pub entertainer insisted on climbing on top of a wall to jump into the path of the lens, screaming his head o�ff as he fell. In the bland suburban surroundings of a northern primary school, in a totally unknown band, Robbie was the showman, the natural born rock star. And then it happened, as Robbie predicted. Take That became not just the biggest band in Britain, but the biggest in Europe, too. Over another half decade of interviews in flash hotel rooms throughout Europe, I saw him go from being thrilled at his fame to being trapped by the constraints of it. The Robbie Williams from the playground in Rotherham was always too large a character for a boy band. Initially he didn't bother trying to hide his pleasure in being famous. In 1992, taking refuge in a London hotel room, safe from the adoring mob in the street outside, he told me: 'I love it. I love the fans. I love the screaming. At concerts you can't even hear us singing for the screaming. It's wicked. There's absolutely nothing I don't like about it. I'm never going to complain about any of it. It's all great.' Watch Robbie Williams' new video Bodies below... 'I'm at a turning point in my career. This next record decides my path,' said Robbie Two-and-a-half years later in Frankfurt, it was a di�fferent story. 'I want to do my own thing, my own music, hear my own voice,' he said. 'I want this (fame) but I don't want it like this. I don't want to be a pop star. I want to be a rock star. No one takes pop stars seriously.' It was that realisation that brought about some of the British music scene's most brilliant, memorable tracks - the ones, indeed, that every the British music scene's most brilliant, memorable tracks - the ones, indeed, that every Mail On Sunday reader will be getting on a free CD in each copy of next week's issue. Robbie decided the surefire way to gatecrash his way into rock credibility was to turn the whole squeaky-clean boy-band image on its head. He announced his departure from Take That by appearing alongside the rock nemesis of all boy bands, Oasis, at Glastonbury in 1995. Enlarge Robbie with girlfriend Ayda Field, who appears alongside him in the video as the two cruise through the desert in a dune buggy Enlarge Robbie on the vintage Husqvarna trail bike he rides through the desert in the video - it's identical to the machine once raced by Steve McQueen The reinvention of Robbie Williams was about to start. Drawing on an eclectic selection of idols ('Who do I like? Loads of people. Tom Jones. David Bowie. Frank Sinatra...') Robbie immersed himself in the business of becoming a solo artist. He moved to Los Angeles, hooked up with songwriter Guy Chambers and produced some of the biggest hits of the decade from Angels to Come Undone, Let Me Entertain You and Rock DJ (all of which are on the Mail On Sunday album). Enlarge Robbie laughing on the set of his latest video As a live performer, he was untouchable, e�ffortlessly able to play his audience. 'My best performances of songs are live,' he said in 1997. 'There's something about singing in front of thousands of people that just takes it to the next level.' Two of the songs on our CD are from Robbie's spectacular 2003 Knebworth shows - he played to 365,000 people over three nights, which makes the event the biggest ever in UK live music history; no one has come close to this achievement before or since. He has consistently set new records for album and ticket sales, not least when he entered the Guinness Book of Records for selling 1.6 million tickets on one day for his 2006 tour. But soon after Robbie began to withdraw from the limelight. And with time out of the spotlight he has clearly turned a corner. The Robbie I once knew as an eternal reckless teenager with something to prove has matured, mellowed and settled into himself. And even as he grew a beard, stayed home (with girlfriend Ayda Field) and retired from evenings out at bars and nightclubs ('those places never appealed to me - I was just looking for someone to stay in with'), he never stopped working on new songs. With his new-found inner peace, old scores with Take That have been resolved, scars have healed and a deep affection for his past has grown. His new album, Reality Killed The Video Star, out next month, is set to be a massive evolution. Already the industry buzz has suggested it is his greatest to date. It was written at Robbie's Los Angeles home studio and recorded in London. It's had major input from Chambers and is produced by the legendary British music guru Trevor Horn. Enlarge Robbie relaxing during takes 'Trevor's added something to the record that I haven't had on previous releases - his genius,' says Robbie. 'I just think it sounds big - track after track after track. 'Some of the new songs come from finally having the time to reflect on spending a few years on the planet, notching up a few records from the start of my career and thinking, "Where did all that time go? What happened?" I still feel 23. Nothing's changed. Everything's changed. 'I'm at a turning point in my career. This next record decides my path. There have been a few great songs here and there along the way, but that's all in the past. I'm a bit scared, because I haven't done anything for three years, but then again I'm always scared when an album comes out.' But, ever the iconoclast, Robbie is continuing to be and do the unexpected. The CD he is giving away next week is unique: a one-o�ff album of some of his biggest ever hits - including several rare live performances and images from his new album. It is also the gateway to exclusive clips of every track of his new CD. In industry terms, it is the biggest nod to the power of the consumer since Prince gave away his CD in the Mail On Sunday two years ago. Like that - and like a performance from Robbie himself - it is not to be missed. Enlarge The video is directed by Vaughan Arnell, who also made Rock DJ and Angels ROBBIE'S SONGBOOK CD - IN HIS OWN WORDS 1. LET ME ENTERTAIN YOU �LIVE FROM KNEBWORTH� 'I was beyond terrified. There was a sea of 135,000 people in front of me and I felt like anything but a rock god. They hadn't paid to see someone petrified from Stoke-on-Trent, so I had to override my feelings for the sake of entertainment.' 2. FEEL �LIVE FROM KNEBWORTH� 'By this point in the show, I had dusted away the self-doubt and just let the song do the talking.' 3. COME UNDONE 'My favourite "me" song.' 4. VIVA LIFE ON MARS 'The first song written for the Rudebox album, dictating where the album was to go.' 5. THE TROUBLE WITH ME 'This is me trying to be from "art school."' 6. MAN MACHINE 'A song about one drink before blackout.' 7. ME AND MY MONKEY 'I had a conversation with a girl in a pool in Singapore. She said,"How do you write a song?" I said ,"You write about anything that comes to mind: give me two things and I will write a song for you this afternoon." She said, "Monkeys and rollerblades".' 8. NO REGRETS �LIVE FROM SLANE CASTLE� 'A bitter, younger me being a bit of a drama queen about the band I used to be in.' 9. PHOENIX FROM THE FLAMES 'It is my crew's favourite Robbie song, I think.' 10. NAN'S SONG 'A song dedicated to someone made of love, and the reason I have a B on my neck - Bertha Talbot.' 11. ROCK DJ �LIVE FROM MUNGERSDORFER STADION, KOLN� 'I don't want to Rock DJ - still don't!' 12. ANGELS 'It's a toss-up between the Irish and the Scots for the most mental audiences I have performed in front of. I haven't been fortunate enough to write another song as good as this - maybe one day.' Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1217429/Robbie-Williams-new-CD-hes-taking-world-storm-again.html#ixzz0SwczRDIl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniea89 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I hate that the media still make a big deal out of the US thing. He should just do what Kylie is doing and do a small tour for the fans. Screw everyone else, let the fans have a good time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Every time someone says Robbie Williams I think of this guy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_squared Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Every time someone says Robbie Williams I think of this guy: That's because you're lame.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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